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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2005, 07:19:54 am »
Yeah thats why i post on the forums still.. but dont play any more :/

(why not have a \"craptastic pick\" that harnquist gives away at the start of that quest it doesnt dig very well but you can at least TRY to be a tradesmen.. and fix that dumb mining rule of cant dig 2 times in a row... just put a 5 second timer on how often you can dig) So i can at least pretend im a tradesman mining for a reason ;(

Well i still post so i can still keep in the \"Planeshift Know\" an know when something RP/Tradesmanly is implemented :) also the forum is where all the peple like me wait for something RPesc or tradeskillish to happen XD
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2005, 07:31:15 am »
Well the sad truth is that although role-playing exists in Planeshift, it\'s just a few shreds of decent activity living a vagabond life. Just like for anything else, there are numerous reasons for this kind of phenomenon.
Probably the most important reason of this comes from the fact that people seem to leave their role-playing expectations in the hands of the developers. \"They make the game, let them make us role-playing environment\", some would probably say. Of course such expectations are for the biggest part simply futile. There are many games (and I mean here mostly pencil & paper RPGs, as well as various MUDs roaming the internet) which will give more role-playing possibilities than Planeshift, no matter how far it will get in its development. The only (or at least the best) way to make it more role-playing friendly is by making the community dive into the curently formed world and try to remain there, pulling the newcomers after them. The community is however far away from the developers\' reach. For the most part it is depending on the players\' activities and loyalty. Sadly, many of the Planeshift\'s \"fans\" won\'t even bother to take a peek into the world of Yliakum, instead sitting on their forums whilst playing other games and/or spending their time on irc, behaving like they were all-important. The very few of the loyal role-players don\'t seem to be enough to pull off any decent activity ingame, successfully turning Planeshift into a constant fighting arena.
There are some efforts to light a spark in Yliakum, for example Zan\'s Festival of the Hunt, but it probably isn\'t going to be enough if the \"hardcore\" role-players won\'t decide to give it a hand. Trying to get some support from the developers is probably futile as well (at least it was many times in my case).
The only way to make this world a bit brighter seems to be gathering of role-players who wouldn\'t have anything against spending some of their time on activities which might encourage ingame role-playing. With, or without developers\' support.
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2005, 09:02:12 am »
Well, the problem is that everytime I get into Planeshift I try to talk to someone, who just ignores me. or challanges me. I am not against levelling, sometimes you have to reach a certain level of skill to be able to RP who you are, just as backup, but what happens in the Hydlaa Plaza is sheer insanity, I think that in the meantime Hydlaa would drown in blood. The only way I found to distract them from eternal fighting, was hiding all my belongings around Hydlaa and saying over auction channel that there are treasures hid. Well at least that worked, and for ten minutes everyone crept around Hydlaa exploring each dark corner. It didnt encourage them to RP, i know, but at least it distracted them from eternal fighting.

What I want to say is that talking here on the forums wont do anything. And even if it just clears the plaza for ten minutes, and maybe encourages some to explore instead of just Hack n Slash.

And there is RPing going on. Mainly at the tavern, because it is a better place to RP. It\'s warm in there you can sit down. and you can buy some ale from draklar :D.
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2005, 09:11:37 am »
Sigh.

Timesheets.

Forge Non-Tavern accepted RP areas for variety.

Talk while you fight things until someone responds.

It\'s easy to do.

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However, it WOULD help VASTLY if there was a sound made when you\'re not looking at the screen, and someone starts talking.  It\'s a GREAT way to allow multi-tasking to prevent boredom.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2005, 10:48:40 am »
I haven\'t read all the posts here but I do want to say one thing ...

Stop whining about it and fix it!

I find a gazillion threads whining about the lack of roleplay but I barely find any with good initiatives to improve roleplaying. Sometimes ideas, yes but those get forgotten soon and nobody bothers to start them up.

Well I am trying to fix it and anyone\'s help is welcome.

Look for the Hydlaa Festival of the Hunt and make your contribution to create some more RP in PS ;)
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2005, 10:58:55 am »
This is where it has gone:

THE SIXTH EPOCH: NEW ORDER

Talad smiled at what he created. His people now had the power to shape their own world. He stood back, waiting to see what they would create. At first, all seemed to go well. The people were happy and thriving, multiplying faster than he had thought possible. But this made him happy also. More people meant more worshippers, and that is what he wished. Why he and Laanx had come to this world in the first place. Even thoughts of his lost friend and the temple that was built in her name could not dampen his spirits for long. It was a joyous time.

Laanx, however, seethed with anger and hate. He was displeased that Talad had achieved such happiness while he was forced to suffer behind his damned mask. Long he thought, trying to think of a revenge that would hurt Talad the most. He had missed out on the last opportunity, and would not do so again. Laanx was watching how happy Talad had made his people when it suddenly struck him, the perfect revenge. He would not strike Talad directly. No, he was far too powerful for that. Instead, Laanx thought with evil glee, he would strike at his enemy?s very heart?his people. Laanx began weaving powers together, twisting them from the Crystal in devious ways. For years he prepared his spell, his burning hate fueling him to even greater cruelness. Finally, it was done. Laanx stared at what he had created. It was a fist sized crystal, blue as the Azure Sun itself. Laanx grinned evilly. It was perfect. The seed to Talad?s destruction. Laanx laughed as he disguised himself as an old beggar and teleported to the outskirts of the city of Hydlaa. He then shuffled his way into town, snickering the entire way. No one took much note of the ragged beggar, thinking that he was merely insane and harmless. Insane, yes. Harmless, no. Laanx laughed at their foolishness. They would all learn soon who was the true power. He laid the blue crystal down next to the fountain and dashed away, cackling madly. A few people came to see what had gotten the beggar?s attention.

Talad watched the children playing in the fields. More than anything, he loved to hear their laughter. But then he heard something else. Something different. Curious, he followed the noise to its source and gasped in shock at what he saw. The plaza of Hydlaa was in an uproar. People were everywhere, fighting, shouting, begging, and killing. For a moment, Talad stood aghast, not knowing what to think of the sight he was beholding. Coming to himself, he rushed into the plaza ordering the chaos to stop. None listened. They continued as they were, seeming oblivious to his presence. Finally, he grasped one of them by the shoulders. The man?s eyes burned with a cold fury.  -What goes on here?- Talad demanded. -Why do you fight, shout, beg, and kill when I have asked you to stop?- The man struggled for a moment, then spat out words that Talad did not understand. They sounded almost like the speech of normal people, only twisted and befouled. As Talad released the man in horror, another raced up. -I challenge you!- he shouted. -You would challenge your god?- Talad asked of him. Instead of answering, the man turned away and rushed to another man babbling in the twisted language. -I challenge you!- he shouted. They then began to fight, until one of them laid dead. Able to take no more, Talad fled the plaza, retreating where none could find him.

The uninfected people saw this and became frightened, many retreating the wilderness, where the power of the blue crystal could not touch them. Others disappeared entirely. But there were some who saw what was happening to their beloved world, their home, and they decided that something must be done. They gathered the strongest Guilds together, planning their next move. After much deliberation, they knew what had to be done to take back the land. With steel in their hearts and hope in their souls, they?


How it ends is up to us.
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2005, 11:21:11 am »
Well i am ready to dive in and help.. but you cant RP a tradesmen if there arent any tradeskills (yeah im a blacksmith.. sorry i cant smith or do anything.. what do you mean thats stupid? Im RPing to be something that doesn\'t exist.. duh!)

But at the rate updates have been cranking out i should be entering the fray in no time :D

EDIT:awsome story UtM :)
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2005, 12:33:40 pm »
Well lack of in-game skills is indeed a problem which yet has to be fixed. I\'m not sure however which path should be taken to achieve the best results in solving the problems connected with it. Adding more skills or teaching people to base their characters on more things than just the skills and abilities.
Many people would develop their characters solely basing them on skills that they use. \"I am a warrior who has the riding skills, so I need skills like swords, shields, heavy armour and riding.\" Possibility to role-play the chosen character without such features appears to be impossible for some people. However, in the times of MB, when there was absolutely no in-game skills to use and possibility to fight was just a far off dream, I did roleplay a warrior (and now that fighting is implemented I changed into a bard... irony, I know). All I had to do was create the personality of my character. With enough of role-players ingame it was quite easy to communicate with others as a warrior that I was supposed to be. I didn\'t really have to go to tavern and show off with how many rogues I killed. By my way of talking on the street, in the temple or in the dungeons I showed my personality and possibly the \"class\" that I tried to stick with.
I remained like that for one and a half year (or so), so forgive me for saying this, but excuses in the form of little number of skills appear very poor to me.
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2005, 01:09:47 pm »
First of all, thanks Under, I don\'t know of any way to say it better for a role playing game then that. I am truly impressed with your story!

Secound, no wounder it never seems to rain in planeshift, there\'s pleanty of tears to keep the crops growing...

I\'m sorry to offend people by that last statement, but it\'s easy to fix your complaints...

Start Role playing!

Yes people! for the low-low price of an intelegent thought, you too can make beggers sing a drinking song for you! Yes, you can go and select the humble life of a miner! ( I did that for my first month before I was strong enough to start tef-hunting, I\'m a level 7 in mining) And not only that, but if you act now, we\'ll include the abaility to BOTH ingnor your chalengers AND go get drunk in the tavren and flirt with some of the prettiest Enkidukai girls around! So what are you waiting for? ACT NOW!

I\'m almost sorry for the sarcasam (almost), but this world has been made open for one and all. There is room for both powerlevelers (which I do) and for roleplayers (which I do also). Main point, if you don\'t like it, the rules of the game do allow you to change things by example rather than complaining. No I didn\'t say it was easy, but there\'s at least a couple of people out there that I\'ve \"helped\" to understand that they should at least roleplay a good reason to fight, so it can be done.
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2005, 05:47:00 pm »
First off theres nothing i love more then another smart-ass :) (seriously.. and that commertial thing was a nice touch)

But all enkidukai girls look the same XD beside though i enjoy a good neko girl much more then the average man(ok, ok wayyy more then even the fantical neko freak :3 ) i dont like them too neko and not enough girl :/ besides demonesses (diaboli) are where its at :P

At least knowing another smartass is out there fighting the fight is almost enough to make me want to play again and stick it to the d00ds with a rightous fury (in as much as I can be \"rightous\" :rolleyes: ) except i need tria for a pick and a pick for tria.. the same problem i mentioned the very day CB came out \'sides wipes is in like a week from what i hear.. i\'ll brainstorm anti-l33t tatics until then :)

Ahh nothing like a fresh point of view.. Thanks Dregan
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2005, 07:19:46 pm »
:D
Thanks guys. When I finally get PS to agree with my PC again, then I shall start playing as Arnigus Faymor, Head of the Sheeple Foundation...yes, that Arnigus. I figured I might as well go for the most unique, most challenging character I could think of.

A semi-successfull, almost morbidly fat, balding, cowardly banker who happens to be able to run very fast. (Read \"The Art of Tripping\" to find out how.) No fighting, no \'leveling up\', no skills. I will run at the first sign of danger; I won\'t even own a weapon.

Not challenging, you think. How can playing this type of character be challenging? You don\'t even have to fight.

Wrong. Every moment I am ingame, I will be fighting for the RP in MMORPG. Not though conflict of the sword, but through words and action. We have the power to change things, not the Devs. They merely give us the structure to build on. The \'New Order\' has yet to be achieved, and even though Arnigus is afraid of his own shadow (and bunnies), he shall fight for it to his last gasping breath. He shall sacrifice every last one of his Sheeples, if needed. The world must be whole.

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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2005, 07:22:19 pm »
hmm I cant say that there aint no RP, today I earned my first 100 Trias by fortune telling, and barkeeping.
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2005, 09:04:49 am »
I am an rp but at the moment there is nothing to rp in planeshift?

I want to power level in planeshift because that?s what my guy is like. He cares for no one and would kill and slash a kid up just cause he feels like it. And he wants to get so much power to even become GODLY! for he walks alone and his shadow cast the only one that walks beside him.


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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2005, 10:21:44 am »
I think it would be nice to have rp guidlines included in the players guide. I know most people don\'t read that stuff but few do, and it might have some positive effect.
What i mean under rp guidelines is few things like:
-Name rules
-Not mentioning levels of skills, avoiding cyber-languge
-If you speak ooc use brackets, this is done by quite a few, but a newcommers are sometimes confused
-...

can\'t remember anything else right now...
The best compliment i got while rp-ing in planeshift was
\"you do know you\'re not an npc?\"

and i earned 2 trias and piece of meat from being a bartender
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2005, 04:57:26 pm »
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today I earned my first 100 Trias by fortune telling, and barkeeping.
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Originally posted by Kaseijin
and i earned 2 trias and piece of meat from being a bartender

I earned something between 8 and 10 circles (or maybe more?), but I won\'t moan about it (nope, not at all)... I\'m just a modest head barkeep...
On second thought I haven\'t earned even a broken tria as a bard... most dishearting indeed...
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