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The PlaneShift Times Issue # 2 Published Today!
« on: April 06, 2005, 04:53:47 pm »
The PlaneShift Times Issue # 2 is published today!

Sent to all subscribers and because I\'ve had some spare time, it is also up online at http://www.pstimes.co.uk/issue_2.html

Crystal Causes Catastrophic Changes - Find out the real reason why we all mutated  8o

Interview With Local Celebrity - Here we catch up on the gossip :rolleyes:

New Breed Of Outsider Causing Concern - Find out how to spot them

The char \'Sov Head\' has a secret about his past that he\'s not too keen for people to know about - we reveal all :P

Elise\'s Diary - Even if you are a PlaneShift veteran you\'ll not stop chuckling at the adventures of this Hydlla Dweller

Rogues Gallery - Find out what a pair of Rogues did to the Temple :evil:

To subscribe go to http://www.pstimes.co.uk  and get issue # 2 before we run out of copies :tongue:

**If you have already subscribed and  not received your copy or are having difficulties displaying the newspaper please reply in this thread.**

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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2005, 08:23:48 pm »
i  never got my copy. was reduced to reading it online

also you made a spelling mistake
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2005, 09:11:23 pm »
Didn\'t recieve it either. Will read it online instead.

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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2005, 09:11:53 pm »
Well now I got my copy of the first issue (finally) but I didnt get the second one. (E mail: oliver@gratkorn.info)
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2005, 10:08:48 pm »
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also you made a spelling mistake


It is not very helpfull if you say \"you made a spelling mistake\" - tell me where or better still go to http://forum.elite.t28.net/index.php?showforum=9

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2005, 10:26:07 pm »
mistake in the most important section of the paper....



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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2005, 12:39:11 am »
I just read the web edition and I found several grave mistakes in the first article, and also one in the last one, all of which seem to hint at a severe lack of historical background knowledge.

Errors in the first article:

1) Yliakum is underground. The article reads like it is talking about a planetary surface. Most importantly, there is no visual access to the planets surroundings, rendering any form of astronomy impossible.

2) The crystal is not a star. It doesn\'t generate light by itself, but instead simply conducts the light that arrives at the surface of the planet Yliakum is part of to the cave inside the stalactite that is Yliakum. It simply is a giant crystal column, of which one end penetrates the surface of the planet and the other ends in the roof of the cavern ceiling of Yliakum. It is the source of magic, but technically not of light; it simply slightly alters the light\'s spectrum a little, shifting it towards infrared.

3) The crystal is nowhere near even one lightminute from the upper or even lowest level of Yliakum. In fact, Yliakum is only several kilometers from the surface, and the entire planetary diameter is dramatically less than a lightminute (assuming an earthlike planet, it would be ~12,742 km, whereas one light second is 299,792.458 km; even a gas giant planet like Jupiter is only 11.2 times the earth radius or ~142,710.4 km, approximately half a light second). The actual sun of the planet which Yliakum is part of may well be ~8.3 lightminutes from the surface of the planet, like earth\'s sun, but this is not relevant to the crystal.

4) The races of Yliakum possess the same amount of \"mutating power\" as RL humans do: zilt. The mutating powers come from the crystals magic, not from the races themselves.


Error in the last article:

1) If there is any such clear distinction, Laanx would be the god of evil, while Talad would be the good god.

Edit: I admit that the Laanx priest isn\'t quite clear on this, but, well, he\'s a Laanx priest...

Apart from this, the paper is enjoyable.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2005, 12:43:27 am by Seytra »

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2005, 03:39:46 am »
Who says laanx has to be evil? She may be \"wrong\" in the story, but there are just as many people in real life who are \"good\" who do evil things all the time. It\'s all relative to a person\'s opinion. I myself find talad an evil woman beater :P

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2005, 11:29:17 am »
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I just read the web edition and I found several grave mistakes in the first article, and also one in the last one, all of which seem to hint at a severe lack of historical background knowledge.


I\'m sorry but your reply shows a distinct lack of scientific knowlwdge.  If someone told you the world was flat you would no doubt believe them.  When playing Planeshift look up - the sky is blue, ask yourself why that sky is blue.  Look around you, admittingly there are a distinct lack of flowers but the grass is green and so are the trees.  Ask yourself would these be green without ultra violet - or very little ultra-violet light as you are suggesting.  How does photosynthesis take place?

I believe the historical background knowledge is given to us not as law - but as a starting point to build on.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2005, 01:30:16 pm »
There always is a chance (and that being a quite big one I might add), that some races would notice lack of stars in the night or that instead of ball of light, during day we all see a glowing ceiling.
Not to mention the Explorers guild, founder of which was supposed to leave the Yliakum by going to the surface.

Also Laanx appears to me more like a god of chaos, whilst Talad would quite nicely do the job of a god of law.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2005, 11:08:17 pm »
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I just read the web edition and I found several grave mistakes in the first article, and also one in the last one, all of which seem to hint at a severe lack of historical background knowledge.

I\'m sorry but your reply shows a distinct lack of scientific knowlwdge.  If someone told you the world was flat you would no doubt believe them.

This is really nice. :) In fact, I find it hilarious! :D You see, I was thinking \"Oh, Adyna probably just didn\'t bother to read up on PS, oh, well, maybe the info wasn\'t found easily enough...\" heh, but here you go, not just completely disregarding all of my pointers, but also, on a grand scale, proposing that not only minor details of the official background might be scientifically incorrect, but that the entire thing is only some sort of collection of ideas that anyone can change and ignore as they please!
You see, this sheds quite a bad light on you, not necessarily as a person (you may well think all stories and RP rules are just BS), but as someone who pretends to be a roleplayer. You see, roleplaying doesn\'t mean you\'re free to do as you please. In fact, it means that you stick to the setting that you are in, and very closely. Yes, I know, the idea \"My char arived from some other world\", or \"it\'s a god\" or whatever, which is disturbingly popular in PS for some strange reason, already indicates bad RP, but I was not going to bring that back up yet again; alas, it fits in quite neatly with your complete, and obviously intentional, disregard for the background of PS, and the rulemakers. Thank you for showing this so clearly, so that I know I need to avoid even trying to RP with you! :tup:
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When playing Planeshift look up - the sky is blue, ask yourself why that sky is blue.  Look around you, admittingly there are a distinct lack of flowers but the grass is green and so are the trees.  Ask yourself would these be green without ultra violet - or very little ultra-violet light as you are suggesting.  How does photosynthesis take place?

Well, you know that photosynthesis doesn\'t even use ultraviolet light? Did you also know that plants use the red and the blue parts of the spectrum, and that this is the reason why they are green - they don\'t completely absorb the green part? So, quite obviously, it is no problem for plants to exist without ultraviolet light.
Furthermore, the fact that the sky is blue simply means that the spectrum is at most shifted from ultraviolet to blue, which still is well within the photosynthetic spectrum of plants.
The absence of UV light, assuming it is complete, will simply mean that people won\'t become tanned by Yliakum\'s sun.
So it is quite clear to me that the absence of UV light does not prevent plants from being green, nor the sky from being blue. In fact, if photosynthesis depended solely on UV light, the plants would not need to absorb any visible light, and thus they would be white and probably even close to clear.

Edit: see this page for an absorption spectrum. It shows that absorption of EM radiation with short wavelengths (UV) is quite minor in comparison with the remaining visible spectrum, proving that UV light is far from being a necessity for plant growth.
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I believe the historical background knowledge is given to us not as law - but as a starting point to build on.

Yes... to build upon, not to completely disregard it. That\'s a huge difference, you know?

@ Draklar: Yes, but that\'d be about as much \"astronomy\" as it can ever get... Also, Yliakums people know that they are underground, and they also know that there is this giant crystal column conducting light from the surface. There are also stories from the first settlers who came from the surface, or the surface of some other planet. They may have been diluted over the hundreds of years, but nevertheless they won\'t be completely lost.

As for the interpretation of Laanx and Talad:
I said there isn\'t any clear distinction. And Laanx might be chaotic, but OTOH, she gave inflexible laws to her people. Now this may be chaotic, but may not. And in fact, neither of them are wise, or have been. Talad was unlucky in that his little ego-boost created such a mess, but both were equally ignorant and stupid to attempt it in the first place. :P
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2005, 01:25:09 am »
IC: Didn\'t you know? The sky is blue because blue is Talad\'s favorite colour! :P

OOC: A blue sky means two things - the crystal emits visible blue light, and the atmosphere contains lots of nitrogen. The average space between two bonded nitrogen atoms is equivalent to the wavelength of blue light, because of this, we get an ideal slit/scattering affect. This is also why things that are further away seem more blue than others.

IC & OOC: I could be wrong, my memory is pretty bad.

P.S. I didn\'t like the scientific motifs either, but still, lets keep it friendly people. ;)


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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2005, 05:31:30 am »
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\"My char arived from some other world\"...which is disturbingly popular in PS for some strange reason, already indicates bad RP

Hey! My character does that. But I take no insult, as my story is so damn good.:] And prove me wrong.:P

But I agree. Even though my story and RP is a little off the wall (I insult the gods a lot, even saying strait out that they aren\'t gods, but fools) but I try to stick like glue to what I do know about the history of Ylaikum.

I like your paper a lot, Adyna, but I was hard pressed to swallow some bits. You know the ones. I would like to see the paper continue, but not flaunting our history like that. I look up in the game and see a cavern ceiling. There is no arguing with that. In this case, the world is flat, figuratively. :)

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2005, 04:25:51 pm »
I recieved my first issue via E-Mail, but that is it.  can you please send it to me.

Thanks.

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2005, 07:14:07 pm »
ya, I didnt get my second either :P As alot I see :) Ill read it online, but perhaps if you wanne fix it :)

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