I don't know what to say...

[Efflixi Aduro]

As you may or may not have heard there was a school shooting in the USA a few weeks ago. 16 year old Jeff Weise killed 2 teachers, 5 kids, his grandparants, and finally himself. I found out that he had made a flash movie so I searched his name on newgrounds and came up with this.
His grandfather was a cop.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/195194

Edit: added url tags

[DepthBlade]

These are the kind of things that made me lose faith in my previous religion now all I believe is people like this should be executed if they don\'t do it to themselves already...

[Ashamn]

This is somethin that i would never understand in my all life, what are the god damn reasons for things like this one? What is wrong with the USA society for things like this one happen almost every year? U Americans should look inside of yourselfs, then try to find reasons for what 16 year old Jeff Weise done..
And how the hell did he get acess to the guns he used?

[Foresteer]

Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey.. now i rail on America\'s imperfections but i am American.. its not a \"USA society thing\" People shoot each other.. you just dont hear about the european stuff it seems :/

Disturbed people dont have a national constant.. sorry X( :rolleyes:

Try looking into yourself for a bit...

(how can the answer to what somebody did be inside ME? im  all \"current american system sucks\" but its people like \"U\" who take it to far)

[Draklar]

Are you going to shoot each other now? :rolleyes:

Progress brings stress and mental problems... that\'s obvious and not really anything new...

[Xordan]

There\'s plently of arguments about if the USA didn\'t have a gun culture  things like this wouldn\'t happen. imo, it doesn\'t help, but if you\'re twisted enough to be able to do this, you\'d find a way somehow to carry it out, even if it takes some time.

[Signolf Chiselson]

Hi everyone,

I think it is somehow a matter of society, if you can call a lack of parental guidance society. I mean we in Europe experience things lake that too now.
Parents leave the education7 guidance of their kids up to the teachers and the teachers think that the parents still do what they are supposed to do. and so the kids are stuck in between.

As I wrote in another post these kids are crying for help and attention. Or in other words for parents who are caring. Caring not only with gifts and credit card - no just simple care for the feelings and needs of their children. I actually cannot understand couples having children but spending then more attention on their jobs/ income than on their own blood.

Signolf Chiselson
Judgement Knights

[XpYtZ]

Holy Crap! No one noticed that he was just a little off!? do they live in cans or something? Seriously how do you miss that movie as an informational construct?!

Uh, USA bashing? Can we keep those kinds of things to our selves? I don\'t rag on any of your countries no matter what I think they have screwed up.
I grew up around guns and take great plesure in the firing of them but one point was drilled into my skull quite hard, weapons are for defence. To attack someone only proves your weakness. That applied to my Martial Arts training, my fencing, everything. The problem is not with guns being legal or easy to get ahold of, it is with parents and friends who turn a blind eye because they are \'to busy\' or \'don\'t know what to do.\' Come on people we have thousands of free counseling programs across the nation USE ONE! Violence is the last resort of the weak.
Signolf makes a good point to, parents ignore their kids to make money and are told by (not just the american society) that they are doing the right thing by providing for their family. But how much money does it take to bring someone back from the dead...?

[Efflixi Aduro]

I personally have no problem with guns as long as they are used for hunting and game.  I\'m actually into guns a lot and I didn\'t make this about gun control. That video is really strange and it made me think, so I shared it with everyone.  Btw I got the pleasure of holding a real AK-47 the other day
Somone I know has it and he got it before the automatic gun ban in california so he legally owns it.

[Foresteer]

I have been around guns since early childhood.. and i too have hand it HAMMERED into my brain gun safety and gun usage. I could kill you from 500 yards.. but i wont because i know better my parents spent the time to not only let me shoot guns but shoot them with skill all the while making sure i knew about the dangers and proper use.. not just taking the half-assed (and seemingly european :rolleyes: ) approach \"All guns are bad.. nobody should have them, they are scary and evil and cause people to kill each other\"

Towns WITHOUT gun control have the lowest crime would you rob a house or a person if you knew for a fact he had a gun? OF COURSE NOT.. now if everybody has guns then think about it... what happens when a bunch of civilians are in the area and pull thier guns on a criminal? You not only know that robbing will get one gun on you.. but potentialy several and then you are trapped and WILL go to jail.. because they all can shoot and if you try to run you WILL get a bullet in the leg or somehwere else and then go to jail anyway (is a couple hundred dollars worth your life? criminals have stated not)

[Cybio Kingfist]

About gunz.

[dragonfire999]

i love that one  :rolleyes:

[Black_rose]

its the same reason as a.d.d,

it has been getting worse and worse, WHY??? because a, we teach our kids to ignore and hide our problems, and i was raised at an early age about guns, i was never able to go hunting ecause my dad died when i was 8.  wanna know something? i think it was horrible what happened. i also think we DON\'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT ALL! all we know is a kid killed a lot of people. we don\'t know why. nothing and i mean NOTHING can ammend that, but he might have had a reason, right?? this kid had potential. some of his writing could have become movies, but he took his mind, and put it into negitive ways. society needs a rank system, monarchy was a sucsessful government for thousands of years because it was so similar to the natural order which is 54321 highest first.. people are always blaming video games for teaching our kids to kill, while at the same time these same people make their kids read the BIBLE! am i the only one confused here? some guy \"LOVES ALL OF US\" and yes if we don\'t think he exists he makes us burn? if we tell a lie he incernerates us??? if we FALL IN LOVE WITHSOME WHO HAS THE SAME ORGAN WE ARE TORTURED FOR ALL OF ETERNATY!!! in the bible, stories are full of war, death, and revenge along with submission and believing that something is SUPERIOR. what type of teaching is that??? that you are not as good as some short tempered freak that kills people for not doing his every whym??? is that not something that would be told in a story about a DEAMON?? anywase, we teach our kids violence, and also ignorance. we think that making them think the fighting does not exist and the guns do not exist will stop fighting. no it is an INSTINCT to fight. just as strong as our instinc to eat and out instinct to sleep. it is an urge and a need. all i can say is that in a way, i hunger to fight. but i hunger for peace and friendship and can never have enough. either way. my friends feel the same way. dont be a screw-up. be a good person and have some TOLERANCE for things. so that everyone can live in a less dangerous world. oh yeah i forgot. we have the most gun violance but who has the most knife? and the most spork violance?

Edited for language.

[Rothas]

Hmm...A person who cant deal with problems often does bad things when he faces one...He did it. A reason is no excuse...We\'ll see him again soon enough. We can ask him then...

[Foresteer]

Wonderful post Russian

plain and simple on the Hate-o-meter Bible >= Mein Kampf or the Turner diaries (actualy the two former where written by people who studied the bible long and hard O.o go figure)

In laymans terms

Originally Stated By The Bible
Exd 23:31 And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.

Laymans terms.. \"Ethinacly cleans the land kill all in your path of non jewish race.. kill thier men women and children\" (it actualy states the women and children part i just cant for the life of me seem to find the verse even after going through all of exodus ;( ) \"Burn thier cities and wipe them out.. you are a superious race and god is on your side\".... Sound familiar? gee willakers! that sounds like nazism!! In the bible? well then i have enough to write a book on but i\'ll stop with just one verse;

We should blame the bible for killing people! (ok not really just as absurd as blaming video games or gun culture... te bible however DOES passively and actively teach hate.. unlike 99.9999% of games or the inanimate objects know as guns)