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1Samildanach

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2005, 01:54:17 pm »
I\'ll see if I can find the gaelic equvilent of \"one\" (the meaning similair to \"a person\" ).

the (main) reason I have a numeral in my (internet) name is to make it shorter (theres one or two other reasons as well).


Thank you all for your help.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2005, 03:53:34 pm »
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 Ever seen a real name with a number in? Don\'t think so ..

a short example.   Edward Jason Jones VI
numbers are included in names but they\'re not that common and the numbers are in roman numerals. so some names have numbers.

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2005, 04:55:34 pm »
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 Ever seen a real name with a number in? Don\'t think so ..

a short example.   Edward Jason Jones VI
numbers are included in names but they\'re not that common and the numbers are in roman numerals. so some names have numbers.

This is not part of the name. It is an automatically applied distinguishing counter, nothing more. If it were part of the name, it could be chosen as freely as the rest, but it cannot.

Anyway, I am against names that mean anything. Most often they mean something (IMO lame) like \"the best / superior\" (in it\'s many variations) or an insult. Constructing in a different language doesn\'t change that. It simply speaks of lack of imagination, and if I happen to like someones name because I don\'t speak the language, it is still disappointing to get to know the meaning eventually.

However, it seems not to be against the rules, so I can\'t oppose it on that grounds, though it still feels like having \"one\", regardless of how it\'s written / translated to another language, as firstname should be against the rules, and I feel it is against their spirit anyway. :(

Oh, BTW, there even is a name generator included in the client: the starlike thing near the name field. ;)

The general rule of thumb is that \"if you have doubts about it being OK, don\'t do it\". :)

Thanks for at least asking, though. :)
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2005, 09:36:06 pm »
Just to throw some other ideas into the mix:

1)
Most names mean something.  Hasn\'t anyone else here ever read one of those horrid baby naming books?

2)
I agree that you shouldn\'t have numeric characters in your name - this could probably be said to violate rule 2 as this practice came into existance as a direct result of the existance of computers, or possibly licence plates, neither of which would exist in a fantasy/medieval setting- , but you might actually be able to justify having a character named \'one\' if you assume your character\'s parents are either severly organized or severly unimaginative.  You might even want to back this idea up with siblings named \'two\' and \'three\'.  I\'m not neccessarily saying that this is a good idea.  The point here is that it\'s conceivable that someone existing within the confines of the PlaneShift universe might actually decide to name their child \'one\'.  I haven\'t actually played this game yet, but from what I\'ve read on the users guide, it looks like you not only create your character, but you create his or her parents and siblings and backstories for the lot of them.  My recommendation is to put some thought into your character\'s history first.  Think about the world he\'s going to be living in and what his parents might be inclined to name him and base your decision on whether everything seems to fit.  That should do a pretty good job of keeping you within the rules, in spirit.  Or you can just use a naming program, like others are suggesting.


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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2005, 11:17:19 pm »
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How many gaelic speaking people do you think you have?


At least three ;)


Make that at least four now, with my addition. ;)
Great name too, loved the games he did in honor of his mother as well, in August (for those of you who actually get that, major kudos ;)). The only thing would be losing that \'1\' at the beginning.
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2005, 04:33:36 am »
I say, latin translator all the way. You can find nmaes like : Validius, and Eximius, and Atrox Interfecio. Yeah, those are all in use, but hey, they\'re latin.

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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2005, 12:33:13 pm »
I wonder how many (non-gaelic speaking) people would be willing to name there child \"Ainimh\" ? it\'s meaning (according to [URL]http://www.wordgumbo.com/ie/cel/iri/irish.htm[/URL>) is \"blemish\":)

aon=1, but I want a gaelic word that means \"a person\":(
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2005, 03:02:21 pm »
Just a note about numbers in names..
My firend\'s parents lived in africa for a while, and there they met someone called \"eleventh\", because that persons parents hadn\'t bothered in finding a name for him/her
(Not because I think it\'s good, but is DOES exist people with numbers in their names..)
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2005, 08:14:00 am »
Per has a point, up to a point. Anyone who knows the Richard Sharpe stories might remember an Exploring Officer named Maj. Septimus (ie. \"seventh\" ) Pyecroft. (Good stories, those, if you like that sort of thing...) Mostly, though, they\'ll be ordinal numbers spelled out (fifth, sixth, seventh etc.) rather than cardinal numbers or digits.

Most importantly IMHO is that, as Roander points out, every name means something, and ordinal names like Septimus or Eleventh really mean \"My parents had too many children and not enough imagination. :P \"

I still think that an adjective surname like Samildanach would best be balanced by a common, maybe even boring, given name like, I don\'t know, Fingal, perhaps? (You don\'t suppose Fingal might be derived from the phrase \"fionn Gael\", do you?)

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2005, 11:01:35 am »
I think the word I\'m after is \"duine\" . :) :) :)

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2005, 02:26:10 pm »
lol, any of you ever heard of Septimus Severus? I guess no... well, as long as you don\'t run around with a name such as \"Troll Wannabe\" I couldn\'t care less...

and about the number in names, don\'t have actual numbers in it 1,2,3 etc. Septimus, latin names etc. is good enough IMHO
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2005, 12:29:16 am »
In regards to using numbers in names... Actually, in at least one language I\'m aware of, it does happen... Japanese.

Several japanese names use \"one\" in them, in various ways - the best example being \"Ichi\", which is simply  the number one.

Using the arabic numerals in names is admitadly quite wierd.


some other name related points...

A great many names started off as descriptive terms or job listings - I mean, think about the english family names Smith, Cartwright, Cooper, Mason, Miller, Baker, Farmer, etc.  

Most names used in english are actually just words or phrases in other languages (or even just old or middle english), that may have been corrupted somewhat heavily by their use as names in places that don\'t use those languages. The name \"Kelly\" for example, derrives, I believe, from a gaelic word for warrior. In most of the world, I believe that name meanings are generally well known and immediately recognizable. If you name your daughter \"Ai\" in Japan, there isn\'t a person who speaks the language who won\'t know that her name is, litterally, Love.

Certain name elements refer to social status. The name \"Fitz\" actually means bastard (ie. illegitimate child), for example, and would be given to an acknowledged bastard child of an aristocrat.

Then of course, you have surnames like \"Leifsdottir\" or \"Erikson\" which basicly just say who your father was.

Really, when people say \"pick something that doesn\'t mean anything\" - they are going completely against how people have been traditionally named.

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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2005, 01:30:52 pm »
Just for the record, the name Ichi (??) does not really exist.  Sure you can name your child that, but people would look at you quite odd.  The male name Kazuki (???P) has been popular for children as of late.  This site gives you a list of top-ten recently popular children\'s names both by full name and kanji used.  The ?? character is seventh on the list of boys\' names, meaning is is the seventh most frequently used in names, not a populat name itself.

Search for anyone named \"Ichi\" in a Japanese periodical and I guarantee you\'ll find the name as frequently as the English name \"Moon Unit.\"  Just because you see a silly name in a fictional ???? or ?h???} doesn\'t mean it is truly commonplace. :)
Names like ?L?? or ?u???}?[ are not exactly normal in the land of the rising sun.  ;)

The argument posed in this thread was that only alphabetical characters are used in an individual\'s name, not numbers.  Even if the name Kazuki literally meant \"one-\"something, it would still be spelled out using that language\'s alphabet.  Thus far, the argument still stands.

As for a random collection of syllables, most \"Fantasy\" names are thought to stem from some long-forgotten or perhaps not-yet-invented lingual roots that might seem strange to non-native speakers.  Hence the names don\'t entirely make sense to anyone but the creator (or those weird people who can speak Tolkienian elvish o.0)

I don\'t see a problem with Amhain Samildanach, but I suppose if that name isn\'t okay with you then that\'s that. :(

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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2005, 02:09:16 am »
I know most uses of Ichi as names are actually nicknames, or shortened forms. I have met one person who\'s name was Ichi, and he said he used 一 for the kanji - though I didn\'t exactly check his ID.

Hmm. Looking at that list... I feel sad for girls named もえ given it\'s current connotations in a certain segment of japanese society.

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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2005, 06:41:42 pm »
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How many gaelic speaking people do you think you have?


At least three ;)


Karyuu, if you\'re going to tell me that you in addition of being creative you also can speak Gaellic, then I have to force you to marry me.