The dead gobble on the plazza...

[Under the moon]

Wow, I just post something similar about imagination in another thread. Creepy.

There is one other thing. Teaching can take you only so far. You have to take those last steps on your own. Let your dreams and imagination take over. Believe it or not, I almost failed Creative Writing back in the day. My way of writing and thinking did not fit into that structure. I look back now and can see why. Knowledge was more important than imagination. But I needed to let imagination take me to that knowledge. I needed to take my own steps, not just placing my feet where they said they should go. I never took those last steps...until now.


On topic...beautiful pic and shading. I like it very much.

[Caym]

It\'s fascinating to see how artists perceive art, learning and their own way of creating.
As for me, though I totally respect your way of learning kang_holion (and couldn\'t agree more with you about patience and determination), I deem technique, and the learning of technique primordial. Not to be better than others, or learn faster, but because not having any real concrete basis really frustates me as I\'m drawing : I make big mistakes, I see them, but I\'m powerless to correct them properly. I have to \"guess\" everything, the perspective, the volumes, the anatomy, etc. and not only does this make the process of drawing laborious (and this really gets in the way of imagination) but the final result always looks amateur, there\'s always one detail that doesn\'t look right (take the forearm and hand on the gobble).

But kang_holion, you said something I find interesting about having \"good genes\". Is drawing a family thing too for other artists here ? Cause in my family there\'s a \"drawing lineage\" up to my great-grandfather, and all my cousins are either into painting, music, acting, etc. (but I guess it has a lot to do with education).

[Cyl]

I personally belive anyone can draw, just that some have an easier time learning while others have a harder time. (I count to the later kind, though)

[Caym]

Ok, kang_holion, I just saw some drawings you\'ve done and...
 8o
From now on, I\'ll blindly agree with everything you say about drawing.

[kang_holion]

Please don\'t! Don\'t blindly listen to me, I maybe wrong 8o !

I was thanking about this all day today and have come to several conclusions: it\'s up to the person. Some prefer guidance, others prefer self-reliance (me), and some just can\'t seem to understand the whole thing. It\'s also up to the laerning capabilities of the person, some are visual learners (myself, I can imitate other art styles if I wanted to, but why?) some learn by slow process learning (being instructed every detail to be sure you know what your doing, requires an instructor in most cases), speech and text (I consider this normal learning), and finally, photo graphic memory (the lucky few that can acheive this are able to trace what they see in their mind... creepy. But they don\'t actually learn any lessons from it... more creepy). If I missed any, tell me.

As for the hereditary thing, anyone can be an artists as far as I know, but some are \"built-in\" with this skill so they master it quicker and at a younger age. I once came across a word that stands for a naturally born artist in a dictionary, but I forgot what it was . The weird thing though is that under the discription, it said something along the lines of an insult to artists with a natural talent ?(  But I believe artistic attributes in your genetic build are very possible since you can also get your mannerisms from your parents like the way you sit, how you fold your arms, foods you like or dislike, ect.

I think we have had a good discussion here. I try to avoid these types of things cause I feel I might offend someone or come off as too cocky. Anywho, back on track, I would like to see more work from you Caym, I know you can achieve higher ground, you just need more practice. That is the main rule of thumb, but it must be more than that; don\'t limit yourself to the same poses/and forms, expand your horizons. If it looks like crap, who cares, your making headway. As you keep trying new things and improving on what you\'ve done before, you\'ll be gaining experience. Draw some random perspective pics; mess around with the amount of angles you can get with the human face. I fill up sketch books with random jibberish and chicken scratches, it\'s my way of improving (I must have recycled at least 500 pounds of paper from my artsy shinanegans).

But really, please draw some more, I need to see some art, and this comic I\'m working on is driving me insane (but it pays so well... ;( )!

[leuxast]

I have my heart set on drawing but can\'t ever get i right.
Caym ; The gobble rocks, thats almost exactly how they look with the gamma raised up!!!  Anyway, I think they should have moved it sooner. There is enough pollution in Hydlaa from the Pterosaur farts without adding gobble rot gas!!!!!!!
Great work and well done.