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« Reply #210 on: November 13, 2005, 08:52:18 pm »
HEY!!!! Firestar would never terrorize the city, Verrliit...only terrorize those who step on him :P .
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« Reply #211 on: November 13, 2005, 11:21:16 pm »
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He\'s still called Food though.


Draklar, that is too cute for words ^^

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Strike us down..... keeheehee
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« Reply #213 on: November 14, 2005, 11:59:22 pm »
...what skin is that for the game? it teh r0x0rz!

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« Reply #214 on: November 15, 2005, 01:57:38 am »
It\'s BaurakSered\'s skin.

Meteor? Meteor? Inside a cave? Well, it\'s magic, but... anyway, it should leave a crater. :)
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« Reply #215 on: November 15, 2005, 02:37:24 am »
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Meteor? Meteor? Inside a cave? Well, it\'s magic, but... anyway, it should leave a crater. :)
It could fall off the cave ceiling... As long as it isn\'t called meteoroid :P

But after rock of such size hitting Hydlaa, the city wouldn\'t be the same ^^
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« Reply #216 on: November 15, 2005, 04:11:35 am »
...a lot of people have commented on meteor making no sense in the cave environment of PS...

Ultimately, it makes sense.  Meteors can create caves.  Plus, it\'s safe to assume there were living creatures around before the current time in PS...who\'s to say they didn\'t drag in some rocks?   There\'s also the fact that hail (those big rocks of ice) are technically meteors.  Meteors are simply any object that fall or are suspended from/in the air.

So...  yes, meteors make sense in PS.

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« Reply #217 on: November 15, 2005, 07:58:22 am »
Awwww it figures I go out of town and all the fun happens :( So are there going to be more shows of these \"meteors?\"
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« Reply #218 on: November 15, 2005, 12:12:37 pm »
Couple funnies I made from screen shots recently.
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« Reply #219 on: November 15, 2005, 05:51:46 pm »
@ Radiant Memphis: :D

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Ultimately, it makes sense.  Meteors can create caves.

Yes, but they don\'t originate in caves, but in outer space.
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A meteor is the visible path of a meteoroid that enters the Earth\'s (or another body\'s) atmosphere, commonly called a shooting star or falling star. The visibility is due to the heat produced by the ram pressure (not friction, as is commonly assumed) of atmospheric entry. A very bright meteor may be called a fireball or bolide. The International Meteor Organisation defines fireballs as being meteors of magnitude -3 or brighter. The meteor section of the British Astronomical Association on the other hand has a much stricter definition, requiring the meteor to be magnitude -5 or brighter.

If a meteoroid survives its transit of the atmosphere to come to rest on the surface, the resulting object is called a meteorite. A meteor striking the Earth or other object may produce an impact crater.

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Plus, it\'s safe to assume there were living creatures around before the current time in PS...who\'s to say they didn\'t drag in some rocks?   There\'s also the fact that hail (those big rocks of ice) are technically meteors.  Meteors are simply any object that fall or are suspended from/in the air.

Dragging them in, throwing them off the ceiling (which isn\'t possible since there aren\'t major cracks there according to the settings), rocks breaking off the ceiling or hail (which can\'t exist in PS either, since the height of the atmosphere is minor and temperature high above will be higher than below, in contrast to the earth\'s atmosphere) can\'t classify as meteor.

However, the explanation for the name (as it is a spell which creates a meteor-like effect as opposed to making some asteroid change course, enter the planet\'s atmosphere and hit where the target is) could be in Yliakums history: the crystal is called \"azure sun\", because the concept \"sun\" travelled to Yliakum with the settlers that originated from a planetary surface. They had a culture there as well, so they were around for a while, and thus certainly witnessed several meteors there, thus creating such a spell and giving it that name would be a result of knowledge of ancient legends. The original creator of that spell would therefore likely have been a historically inclined person.
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« Reply #220 on: November 15, 2005, 10:01:07 pm »
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Meteor | Me\"te*or |
 n. F. m\'et\'eore, Gr. ?, pl. ? things in
   the air, fr. ? high in air, raised off the ground; ? beyond +
   ?, ?, a suspension or hovering in the air, fr. ? to lift,
   raise up.
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    1. Any phenomenon or appearance in the atmosphere, as clouds,
      rain, hail, snow, etc.
      1913 Webster

            Hail, an ordinary meteor.             --Bp. Hall.
      1913 Webster

   2. Specif.: A transient luminous body or appearance seen in
      the atmosphere, or in a more elevated region.
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            The vaulty top of heaven
            Figured quite o\'er with burning meteors. --Shak.
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   3. A mass of stone or other substance which sometimes falls
      to the earth from space beyond the moon, burning up from
      atomospheric friction and creating a brilliant but usually
      very brief trail of light in the atmosphere; also called a
      shooting star.
      PJC

   Note: The term is especially applied to fireballs, and the
         masses of stone or other substances which sometimes
         fall to the earth; also to shooting stars and to ignes
         fatui. Meteors are often classed as: aerial meteors,
         winds, tornadoes, etc.; aqueous meteors, rain, hail,
         snow, dew, etc.; luminous meteors, rainbows, halos,
         etc.; and igneous meteors, lightning, shooting stars,
         and the like.
         1913 Webster



I meant meteor\'s in this sense.  It wasn\'t until more recently in history that meteors became to mean almost exclusively \"rocks from space.\"  I\'m a bit of a linguist, so I\'m quite confident in this.  I was using hail in my comment as an example of the number of things that are technically considered meteors.

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« Reply #221 on: November 16, 2005, 02:23:09 am »
Alright, this explanation does make sense. Using this definition as explanation for the spell\'s name, however, would not make sense to me, though. If you have that definition, and create a spell from it, it is unlikely that you\'d end up with a rock falling from the sky in a flare of light. You would much more likely end up with hail, wind, lightning, etc., assuming these actually can form in Yliakum, which I don\'t think (save wind). Even more so if you are not aware of the existance of the rocks from outer space version of \"meteor\", after which the spell clearly is modelled, given that you\'re inside a cave.
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« Reply #222 on: November 16, 2005, 03:46:59 am »
well, rain and clouds could, theoretically, be plausible. with the warm, moist air rising to the top, it would condense on the cool rock above. some could condense in the air to form clouds. the water that has cooled on the rock, however, would simply fall back down. hence: rain. hail could also work,  the moist air condensing into clouds, then freezing and falling back.

lightning would be something more difficult to explain.

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« Reply #223 on: November 16, 2005, 06:54:27 am »
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Yes, but they don\'t originate in caves, but in outer space.
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A meteor is the visible path of a meteoroid that enters the Earth\'s (or another body\'s) atmosphere
That line refers to meteoroid, not meteor :P

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Even more so if you are not aware of the existance of the rocks from outer space version of \"meteor\", after which the spell clearly is modelled, given that you\'re inside a cave.
Some inhabitants of Yliakum remember snow from before entering the underground (as stated in the setting), so I don\'t see why it couldn\'t be so with meteors... Actually, the spell might be something completely different than meteor, but since people would find it very similar to what they experienced on the surface, they might name them after those :)

But this is off topic.
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« Reply #224 on: November 16, 2005, 01:38:12 pm »
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Yes, but they don\'t originate in caves, but in outer space.
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A meteor is the visible path of a meteoroid that enters the Earth\'s (or another body\'s) atmosphere
That line refers to meteoroid, not meteor :P

\"A meteor is the visible path of a meteorid\", so it clearly refers to a meteor.
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Some inhabitants of Yliakum remember snow from before entering the underground (as stated in the setting),

Up until now I am unable to recognise the char creation as part of the setting, as it has absolutely no interconnections with it, and most importantly, has no foundation there. In fact, it could just as easily be an alternative setting entirely. In fact, several things in it, like the naming / descriptions of the months, seem to contradict the spirit of the settings.
The term azure sun, OTOH, is in the original settings and therefore undeniably connected (see below).
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so I don\'t see why it couldn\'t be so with meteors... Actually, the spell might be something completely different than meteor, but since people would find it very similar to what they experienced on the surface, they might name them after those :)

Yes, that\'s what I was trying to say with the post before my previous one. The previous post merely said that the definition of meteor as presented by spydirweb would be way too broad to, on it\'s own, give rise to a spell like that, especially if developed inside a cave.
I agree that the term / inspiration for the spell \"meteor\" can be a remainder from the first settlers who came from a planetary surface.

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well, rain and clouds could, theoretically, be plausible. with the warm, moist air rising to the top, it would condense on the cool rock above. some could condense in the air to form clouds. the water that has cooled on the rock, however, would simply fall back down. hence: rain.

If the ceiling isn\'t exactly horizontal, then the condensing water would not fall down but instead run down, at the underside of the ceiling, and thus form \"rivers\" that run along the ceiling and then down the walls, where it eventually meets ground level. This can be observed in cooking pots.
Given that the ceiling is by no means even, a different scenario would be possible, but has an important implication:
If the condensing water forms a river, it\'ll encounter the uneven surface and follow them to the nearest point that is lowest. That would be spikes hanging from the ceiling.
From the tips of these, the water would fall down, as it has no other way to go.
Result: instead of rain, which would fall anywhere within the region with the same probability, there would be distinct places where water falls down, and not in form of distributed drops but instead of a continous trickle or even flow. This is just like in normal caves, and the reason why stalactites / stalagmites form: water containing lime dripping from uneven spots, leaving some of the lime, which then forms the growing stalactite. With condensed water, no lime would be contained, thus no stalactites would form, but the water would still drip down in the exact same places all the time.
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hail could also work, the moist air condensing into clouds, then freezing and falling back.

AFAK clouds form because the upper atmosphere is cooler than below, inhibiting the water from rising higher. However, I don\'t think that the upper atmosphere in the cave would be notably cooler than at ground level, given that the crystal would directly heat it. So all water would reach the cavern ceiling, condensing there as above, or be dissociated by the crystal (which is a problem, as that would mean that air is dissociated as well, eventually burning all the atmosphere of the planet, unless it\'s merely split into individual atoms that would eventually reconnect (high danger of hydrogen explosion unless ventilated very well)).

So the only thing I can see forming would be ice spikes but neither snow nor hail nor real rain.
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lightning would be something more difficult to explain.

Indeed the most common way for lightning to form (water particles in clouds) doesn\'t work AFAICS. There are other, much rarer ways for lightning to form, though (dust particles). An interesting effect would be that lightning would not only strike ground, but also the ceiling and the walls.