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A Thing that kills all Free MMORPGs
« on: June 29, 2005, 09:51:20 pm »
When PS becomes complete and popular with everyone theres one issue that kills all Free MMORPGs, server eing overloaded, for some Free (and certainly addictive)
MMORPGS, I stop playing them because their servers are always Full and won\'t allow me to get in.

Even though this isn\'t a critical issue right now, sisnce PS is still an Alpha, I would like to warn all of PS dEvs and players out there, THIS IS VERY LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. seriously, it could. Some Free MMORPG have so much complaints about Servers they change their game not to be free, so players must pay-to-play (in other words, PtP). but PS made an oath PS will be forever free, so keep this in mind everyone.    
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2005, 10:33:52 pm »
I highly doubt that Planeshift will become like that. I mean. it was the first week of CB. And it probably will, first week of every release. No longer. Because this game does not support all players, only RPers, which cuts the numbers dramatically after all those 1337 guys find out they are not welcome. But hey..maybe J.K. Rowling makes a book on RP and everyone reads it and plays PS..It could happen..your right...(I\'m serious)

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2005, 10:46:16 pm »
We have plenty of servers lined up ready to be donated for whenever we need them. They\'ll be linked together in such a way that we won\'t have to segregate the community into different worlds for different servers.

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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2005, 11:14:10 pm »
and the sun will eventually bloat and the earth will be devoured by the solar atmosphere.

and eventually windows longhorn will be released.

it isn\'t something that i am worried about happening soon.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2005, 12:24:24 am »
And now don\'t start asking if you can host a PS server - not here or in Luca\'s mailbox - because you can\'t. The only way to get a request like that remembered, would be if you own an ISP, if you\'re able to get a deal with an ISP that you work in, or if you run a company that provides game/web server hosting solutions (which is what Fragnetics does) - then it might have some value, but the current server lacks neither CPU, RAM or bandwidth, so server overloading is not a problem as of yet. :)
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2005, 01:01:05 am »
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And now don\'t start asking if you can host a PS server - not here or in Luca\'s mailbox - because you can\'t. The only way to get a request like that remembered, would be if you own an ISP, if you\'re able to get a deal with an ISP that you work in, or if you run a company that provides game/web server hosting solutions (which is what Fragnetics does) - then it might have some value, but the current server lacks neither CPU, RAM or bandwidth, so server overloading is not a problem as of yet. :)


Having a private and dedicated quad dual core opteron server with 24Gb of ram, some 20k rpm HDD\'s and a 10Gbps internet connnection would also make you qualify :)
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2005, 03:59:45 am »
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Having a private and dedicated quad dual core opteron server with 24Gb of ram, some 20k rpm HDD\'s and a 10Gbps internet connnection would also make you qualify :)


Yes, perhaps if you\'re willing to dedicate this server to PS and not suddenly decide you\'ve got better things to do with it. So actually no, you probably wouldn\'t. :)
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2005, 04:26:44 am »
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When PS becomes complete and popular with everyone theres one issue that kills all Free MMORPGs, server eing overloaded, for some Free (and certainly addictive)
MMORPGS, I stop playing them because their servers are always Full and won\'t allow me to get in.

Even though this isn\'t a critical issue right now, sisnce PS is still an Alpha, I would like to warn all of PS dEvs and players out there, THIS IS VERY LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. seriously, it could. Some Free MMORPG have so much complaints about Servers they change their game not to be free, so players must pay-to-play (in other words, PtP). but PS made an oath PS will be forever free, so keep this in mind everyone.


Most of the time the companies limit the number of users on the free servers deliberatly, so that people are enticed towards paying for the non-free servers so they dont have to wait.  Its not an issue of there not being enough servers, its an issue of the companies placing arbitrary limits on the number of users.  Of course this isnt the official reason they\'d tell you, but it is the reason none-the-less.  Planeshift is still using the same servers as it has been for quite some time now, and if my memory serves me correctly has others lined up for when it needs to expand.

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2005, 08:38:20 am »
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Most of the time the companies limit the number of users on the free servers deliberatly, so that people are enticed towards paying for the non-free servers so they dont have to wait.  Its not an issue of there not being enough servers, its an issue of the companies placing arbitrary limits on the number of users.  Of course this isnt the official reason they\'d tell you, but it is the reason none-the-less.  Planeshift is still using the same servers as it has been for quite some time now, and if my memory serves me correctly has others lined up for when it needs to expand.


Actually, we are not using the old server.
MB server was on planeshift.fragnetics.com, new one is at laanx

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2005, 09:25:45 pm »
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Actually, we are not using the old server.
MB server was on planeshift.fragnetics.com, new one is at laanx


Yep. The MB server was hosted on the fragnetics.com webserver, however with the CB release, it was transferred to it\'s own little boxy thing.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2005, 02:33:42 am »
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I highly doubt that Planeshift will become like that. I mean. it was the first week of CB. And it probably will, first week of every release. No longer. Because this game does not support all players, only RPers, which cuts the numbers dramatically after all those 1337 guys find out they are not welcome. But hey..maybe J.K. Rowling makes a book on RP and everyone reads it and plays PS..It could happen..your right...(I\'m serious)


does not support all players?

I must be mistaking you here but how do you think PS is going to be different from RPGs that are already there that will make it so people wont be able to play it?

I think your forgetting that when it is finished it is supposed to be a game. Not a messageboard or chat with nifty graphics where the only thing you can do is roleplay.

Don\'t get me wrong I have been a member of such messageboards and love them to death, but that is not what PS will be and so I doubt that true roleplayers will be the only ones in this game and am even doubting that most of the members now and specially then (when the game itself will distract people) come for the roleplaying.

Even now a lot of roleplayers from MB have left becuase of the \"newb\" and \"player\" invasions. Think of the increase when the game exually works and doesn\'t have bugs that makes them stop.
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2005, 02:44:45 am »
But you\'re forgetting the community, Pestilence ;) Hack\'n\'slash players will be frowned upon, yelled at, and most likely ignored if they attempt OOC conversation with roleplayers. Roleplay is the centerpoint afterall, and when this will be a \"finished game\" (understanding that the phrase is used jokingly) then it will hold a lot more for roleplayers (such as progress mainly through RP events instead of mob slaughter), and those who won\'t partake in roleplay won\'t find much in it.

Look at how many people are already complaining that they don\'t come here for roleplay and are getting bapped for it. Certainly there will be nothing \"pure\" about Planeshift\'s RP, and many different types of players will fill the world. However, as it has been stated before by various sources, Planeshift is not for all types of users.

So in summary, it\'s simple. We\'ll just beat the nonRPers senseless ;D

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2005, 06:29:55 am »
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Actually, we are not using the old server.
MB server was on planeshift.fragnetics.com, new one is at laanx


Lol well obviously my memory didnt serve me correctly...

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Even now a lot of roleplayers from MB have left becuase of the \"newb\" and \"player\" invasions. Think of the increase when the game exually works and doesn\'t have bugs that makes them stop.


I\'d have to agree here, i mean you already have lots of people complaining that there\'s too many people just power-levelling and not roleplaying, and hardly anything has been implemented yet.  Unless they actually take features out from this point onwards, i dont see how the number of people playing the game without roleplaying is going to do anything other than increase.

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 07:15:23 am »
we need to make players and roleplayers work together, because i hate to say it but the game is indeed going to have both. live with it.if you cant may i suggest D&D...

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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 04:03:05 pm »
I can make the game horribly boring for anyone who wishes to hack\'n slash all day :P

/me goes off to raise the amount of pp you need by 100000x

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