London bonb blasts

[XpYtZ]

My sympathies to those directly affected in the incident. All other disscussion in this area is mute. People will talk, the city has been affected and we will hear about it for the next week or two. It will then fade into the blithe like all other events of its nature and become part of our lesser history.
No one should make a big deal out of it, or point fingers at who is/not helping who. Just send your condolences to those that live there and get on with your lives...ants.

[kbilik]

Originally posted by Annah
 And don\'t want to sound mean, but people are killed every day, in every part of the world, but no one cares about them. People die, but no one even looks at them. People die, and you don\'t see those on the news. Don\'t they have all your sympathy?

So by the same logic, why should we care about the war in Iraq and the genocide in Sudan? Hey, people die everyday, right? More people commit suicide than die in wars every year.

What you say is true, but the difference is that this is an act of deliberate mass murder. The same applies to genocide and war - you cannot ethically compare the lives lost in these events to accidents, local crimes, or natural death. This attack was directed against a group of people (against Britain in this case) with the intent to destroy lives, morale, and infrastructure. The extremists did this even though most of the victims had nothing to do with the war in Iraq and were going about their daily lives.

[Under the moon]

tour guide Michael Cahill, 37
\"As Brits, we\'ll carry on - it doesn\'t scare us at all,\" said  \"Look, loads of people are walking down the streets. It\'s Great Britain - not called \'Great\' for nothing.\"

*bows his head, grits his teeth, and goes on living...but worries about those across the pond...*

[Ecolem]

Originally posted by Drey
...Im glad it wasnt yesterday as i was jumping on and off those trains all day.

Its good to hear your ok Drey

[derwoodly]

I did not want to start some sort of political discusion.  I believe there are some PS players living in Britain and I wanted to express my concern for there safety.

Personally I do not understand Why Terrorist kill, there message is lost on me.  All I see is a group that does not have any understanding of how normal negotiations are saposed to work.  All they seem to understand is bombs and guns.

[oh, I wish I could edit the title!]

[Annah]

I\'m not ignorant, I know people die all around the world all of the time. And yes, they DO have all of my sympathies, that\'s why I send funds to world relief organizations.

 Yeah, I\'ll let you know when those will matter that much. Like I\'ve told you, we don\'t live in a dream world where a few words do everything, or a few dollars sent to someone who\'s life is practically fu*ked up helps.

 Of course, the money will eventually help for something, but this doesn\'t mean you have to behave the way you are behaving. You consider yourself pleased only because you give those dollars? You think everything should be okay just because you give those dollars?

 Huh kiddo...

 :rolleyes:

 Anyway, yes, Ashamn and Valbrandr said it very well.

So by the same logic, why should we care about the war in Iraq and the genocide in Sudan? Hey, people die everyday, right? More people commit suicide than die in wars every year.

What you say is true, but the difference is that this is an act of deliberate mass murder. The same applies to genocide and war - you cannot ethically compare the lives lost in these events to accidents, local crimes, or natural death. This attack was directed against a group of people (against Britain in this case) with the intent to destroy lives, morale, and infrastructure. The extremists did this even though most of the victims had nothing to do with the war in Iraq and were going about their daily lives.

 Actually, that\'s by your personal logic. I don\'t think you\'ve heard me saying that.

 I just wanted to point that we don\'t need to \"advertise\" (because hell yeah, in a way, this is what it is, advertising!) every incident provoked by terrorists, anywhere in the world. Don\'t you think this is just what they want? They want to be heard. They want their \"message\" to be everywhere.

IMHO, reporting it on the web, showing how sad everyone are and what harm
is done to the community and especially paralyzing whole city is what terrorists
want, they want to be heard they want to be hated, if we will do what they want
they will do more and more bad things.

 So true Platyna. But some people just can\'t understand that their words are not going to change anything that has happened, nor bring those people back. In contrary, you\'re only \"spreading the disease\".

 I guess this is very clear, so I expect no more replies from now on, what\'s done is done. Nor other threads in the near future like this one.

 Oh, and yeah, Demarthl, just shut the fu*k up. And don\'t worry, you can never reach my \"level\". It was, it is, and it will always be too high for you.

 Peace!

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Annah
 I guess this is very clear, so I expect no more replies from now on, what\'s done is done. Nor other threads in the near future like this one.

Hi, I must have missed when you became a moderator for this board.

Get over yourselves, posting or not posting this will not affect ANYTHING.

[Annah]

Hi, I must have missed when you became a moderator for this board.

 You don\'t need to be a moderator to say that. The only difference is that most of the time, people listen to them quicker.

 

Get over yourselves, posting or not posting this will not affect ANYTHING.

 That\'s exactly what I said. Why did you need to repeat it?

 

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Annah

Hi, I must have missed when you became a moderator for this board.

 You don\'t need to be a moderator to say that. The only difference is that most of the time, people listen to them quicker.

No, you don\'t need to be a moderator to say a lot of things that fall within their job.  I don\'t see how you expect anyone to listen to you, because quite simply not everyone agrees or will agree with you.

Originally posted by Annah

Get over yourselves, posting or not posting this will not affect ANYTHING.

 That\'s exactly what I said. Why did you need to repeat it?

You saying that it will, in fact, affect something:

Originally posted by Annah
I just wanted to point that we don\'t need to \"advertise\" (because hell yeah, in a way, this is what it is, advertising!) every incident provoked by terrorists, anywhere in the world. Don\'t you think this is just what they want? They want to be heard. They want their \"message\" to be everywhere.

IMHO, reporting it on the web, showing how sad everyone are and what harm
is done to the community and especially paralyzing whole city is what terrorists
want, they want to be heard they want to be hated, if we will do what they want
they will do more and more bad things.

 So true Platyna. But some people just can\'t understand that their words are not going to change anything that has happened, nor bring those people back. In contrary, you\'re only \"spreading the disease\".

Anything, meaning anything.

[Annah]

Okay, I don\'t think this will ever lead to something. We won\'t make world peace.

 

 And besides, you\'re the last person of this board I want to \"fight\" with. So let\'s drop it.

 

[Rumley Benson]

All I was trying to do was voice my sympathy and support for Britain and those who have been affected by the attacks, Annah.  You did not need to enter this topic like this, huh kiddo.  Perhaps respect the people who lost their lives and were injured and the families that grieve for them.  Again, my sympathies and support extend to the nation of Britain and those affected in any way.  Sorry to interupt this thread with senseless arguing.

[kbilik]

Originally posted by Annah

So by the same logic, why should we care about the war in Iraq and the genocide in Sudan? Hey, people die everyday, right? More people commit suicide than die in wars every year.

What you say is true, but the difference is that this is an act of deliberate mass murder. The same applies to genocide and war - you cannot ethically compare the lives lost in these events to accidents, local crimes, or natural death. This attack was directed against a group of people (against Britain in this case) with the intent to destroy lives, morale, and infrastructure. The extremists did this even though most of the victims had nothing to do with the war in Iraq and were going about their daily lives.

 Actually, that\'s by your personal logic. I don\'t think you\'ve heard me saying that.

Actually that\'s exactly what you said. You asked why we feel sorry toward the London bombing victims or for people that are victims in events that get a lot of news coverage (wars, terrorist attacks, etc) and seemingly ignore the deaths of other people around the world.

Like I said before, you can not ethically compare the loss of people in wars and terrorist attacks to other events like petty crimes. The terrorist attacks are an attempt to emotionally as well as physically attack all people of a certain nationality or group. The same can be said of a war. In effect they are a blow to the nation or group targeted as a whole - a symbolic act that rattles morale and hurts more than the immediate victims. That is the reason these events get more coverage than the death tolls from disease (which has killed more people than all wars combined).

So when people try to express sympathy, realize that they are not trying to say \"hey, the lives of westerners value more to me\". They are sincerely trying to help the people affected overcome the terror, know that they are not alone, and that they have friends abroad standing with them.

Now let\'s become more civil and stop these arguments. I want to add my sympathies to the people affected and hope people continue going about their lives, refusing to let the extremists win.

[Taurenthefirst]

o.k. i read like the first 10 posts in this thread and saw another political arguement developing again, so i stopped reading, don\'t want to get involved in that again... nothing good ever comes of it...
anyway, i was sitting at the airport waiting to get on a plane when i saw it on the news on a t.v. near my departure gate.  i wasn\'t really worried about getting attacked by terrorists myself, but i was pretty scared of other people watching it and freaking out and stuff... everyone running out of the airport screaming, delaying my flight even further...
luckily none of that happened

sympathies to all the brits out there

[Rumley Benson]

Originally posted by Taurenthefirst
sympathies to all the brits out there

I agree Tauren.  That\'s all I was trying to say, sorry for causing any trouble around here.