Time for a Vacation

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Karyuu
Your views on names don\'t exactly coincide with the rules stickied in the General section of the forums, Efflixi, plain and clear for all to read. As it has been stated, if you disagree with the rules, discuss them with those who created them, not with those who have been assigned with enforcing them. It\'s a fruitless task, otherwise. I think this is an obvious observation.

Really, the amount of naming threads that go up is ridiculous. If it\'s a new player, at least they\'ve the lack of previous experience to excuse them. But for someone who has been with the community for several years not to learn that such threads are useless, is silly.

Hi.  The fact that you must understand, is that no one really cares how ridiculous the post might seem to you, it is important to them, or else it would not be posted.  Your point that it will (might) accomplish nothing makes little difference, not every thread has to be completely necessary to be posted, just look at the posts in Hydlaa Plaza.  For some reason though, if it is relevant to Planeshift but not completely necessary/useful it is indeed locked.

Originally posted by Karyuu

Originally posted by Kiern
My point of view is too popular nowadays.  Ah well.

Uh-oh, might have to change it, Kiern :rolleyes:

Yes, because that is exactly what I meant...

And, to beat you over the head with the fact that what I just said was indeed sarcastic, I will throw in a few smiley\'s. :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Unfortunately for me, there is no clear \"self-deprecating humor\" smiley.

[Karyuu]

I am rather amused, Phinehas, that people who share your opinion seem to indulge rather often in name-calling, while those who have opposing views refrain from such.

Perceived insults can be resolved in a normal and mannerly fashion, if the player calms down. GMs themselves do not have an infinite amount of patience, though they are meant to have more than most. If a GM is rude, I don\'t understand why a log cannot be saved and collected until it is presentable to those who appoint GMs. Surely if there are problems, they need to be addressed by someone other than the problem-makers, yes?

[Phinehas]

I don\'t indulge in name-calling, that I know of.

Anyways, all I\'m saying is that if people who have been around for a long time find the GM\'s, many of whom are \"new\" to be insulting, then something\'s wrong. I honestly don\'t think Aranis here is the type to get easily offended and then pout. Perhaps with all the complaints coming in, someone should try listening. Just perhaps, though. I also know that it can be extremely frustrating trying to get anyone in authority to actually do anything. Acraig is better than most, admittedly, but even he can be rather \"absent\".

Also, the whole \"show a log and email Acraig\" thing. That\'s nice, but I dont\' think it\'s the best. Why is it made so complicated for someone to complain? Surely there could be some way to make the process easier. Spoonscape, for all it\'s shortcomings, had a wonderfully easy way of putting in complaints. You simply pressed the button, chose your type of complaint, and a log of the last minute was sent to whoever looked after that sort of thing. I know it\'s still beta, and therefore these sorts of things haven\'t come into being yet, and that\'s ok. All I\'m saying is that perhaps posts on the forums shouldn\'t just be flamed and locked, but looked into. After all, no one makes it hard to report a bug...

For the record, even when I could play the game, I didn\'t even know you could keep logs, and if I did, I probably wouldn\'t have anyways. Don\'t answer this with a flame about how easy logging is, just consider it.

As a last comment, I\'d like to point out that I think the problem between GM\'s and players is not solely the fault of the GM\'s, and definitely not the fault of the devs. If more of the \"oldbies\" would spend less time whining about how hostile the PS world is, and spent more time working to achieve GMness, then it would be a better world all \'round. I would have done this... started actually, but I no longer have my own computer, so I\'m incapable of continuing.

[Efflixi Aduro]

Originally posted by Phinehas
*sigh*

Whatever happened to the good old days of Cabali flaming? The GM\'s never did anything about that. Now it\'s like, \"Hey you hurt his feelings!\" *lock*

Wow I don\'t think anything has ever been put into better words. Bring back the cabal and everything will be better!!! How ironic...

Edit: By the way. I don\'t think it should come to reporting gms if just the devs would personally ask more relyable players to be gms instead of random people fo \"help\" others in game.

[Robinmagus]

Well, I\'ll hope to see you Soon Aranis..but..it seems to me this thread is more a debate over Gm issues *Ducks for a crayon of death +1* Well..Bye anyway Aranis. /me walks off.

[remvak]

I agree with Mike, I swear the GMs would have made great members of the gestapo, they won\'t be satisfied until everyone conforms to their small backwards idea of a mmorpg world, luckily i have world of warcraft now where the gms are actually HELPFUL, ah I bid thee a farewell

[Robinmagus]

That was unnecissary. The gMs are helpful to those willing to learn and have hard enough jobs without people like you discouraging them. Hope you have a good time with WoW.

[remvak]

LOL good! Once they get discouraged maybe theyll allow us a little somthin called liberty, ya see we fought a world war over that, look it up . Eiffel was probably the name of many things before the eiffel tower was erected, they have no right to change eiffels name without even asking, im guessing the gms need to work on their logic, also keep in mind that most structures are named after people in the first place, would you guys change my name if i made a char named ben? \"oh no! hes called ben! like big ben! it must be changed to.....um...bib...yes....its dorky and geeky and it will be his name!\" pfff give me a friggin break. Ah why do i bother? now that iv made a good point a GM will comeback with an inferior point and then close the thread before i have time to reply back, or maybe theyll just delete my post completely

and on another note yes i think anyone who calls themselves microwave are complete idiots who deserve wotever comes their way but come on, eiffel isnt exactly a stupid name now is it

anyway thanks, i will have a good time on wow

[Kiern]

Originally posted by remvak
now that iv made a good point a GM will comeback with an inferior point and then close the thread before i have time to reply back, or maybe theyll just delete my post completely

Repeating what Karyuu has already said, GMs and Forum Moderators are two different groups...though each do include Mogura I believe (at least I\'m guessing she is a GM), who is quite good at that.  :baby:

[remvak]

i dont care its hot and i feel annoyed at the mods, and yes that was a careless mistake to mix up GMs and mods, oh well

[mikewsnc]

Well I intended to include both mods (only two of them and no names) and gm\'s( again only two of them).

I have a question for a mod. When you lock a thread or delete a post ask yourself if its for the good of the community of because you yourself did not care for it.

GM\'s to you all I ask is common sense. They say we use only 10% of our brains well please reach for 11% before you rename someone who\'s name you have never seen in a d&d game. I have seen a few people renamed ( not just Eiffel) who\'s name was not a disruption to the game world. Please just think about it before you rip someone of there identity.

For the most part the ones working on this game whether in game or on boards do an outstanding job. Problem is the few ruin it for the majority.

Aranis

[Induane]

Perhaps I am just uninformed here but I\'m not even sure the name rules are concrete enough for someone to be sure that their name won\'t be changed.

Roleplay

    * Naming Policy
      In the fantasy world of PlaneShift, players are encouraged to roleplay as much as possible in order to become fully immersed in the setting of the game. To assist this goal, these player naming standards have been created. The general rule is that the names must be compatible with the RPG style and spirit.

            All names violating #1, 2 and 3 will be changed by a GM sooner or later. If the player subsequently violates these terms again, they will be banned from the game:

         1. Names of popular book/film/game characters, widely known politicians, countries, movements and their leaders, religion, religion leaders or religious figures, actors, artists and trademarks.
         2. Parts of the name that have a cultural connotation incompatible with the RPG style as defined in the Planeshift Fantasy/Medieval setting should be avoided. Included, but not exhaustive, are: references to the cyber-culture, existing religions, politics, history, slang, ... The fact that the name part is in another language than English doesn\'t exclude it from this rule.
         3. Stupid names, like \"Spawnman\", \"Mrpussycat\", \"Evil\" and names that create a sentence with firstname + lastname, i.e. \"Leet Dude\", \"ImA God\", etc.
            Character names composed of common nouns, verbs and adjectives, or titles should be avoided as much as possible.

            Players violating rules #4 and 5 will be permanently banned:

         4. Words percieved as insults to any race, gender, ethnic origin, nationality, religion, politicians, actors, artists. This includes backwards and misspelled words that deliberately resemble a insult.
         5. Names that contain swears and are obviously made to provoke.
            Impersonations, especially of members of PS team or PS community, and names percieved as insults to members of PS team or PS community.

While it is true that:
Eiffel is a trademark of the Nonprofit International Consortium for Eiffel (NICE).

Eiffel seems an origional enough name to me.  But hey I\'m not a GM/mod, I can still get my head through the main gates.

Had his name been Eiffel Tower I could understand, but otherwise, GEEZE!

If we go this far with name changes then we should outlaw names like Richard, or John, or Henry, as these were names used by KINGs, - in fact we should outlaw ALL names that exist in the Real World.  (cough cough).  It seems some name changes are the arbitrary whim of a GM who either takes things WAY too seriously, or has been corrupted by the power.

Hey I have an idea!  We create a random name generator thats only rule is that it can\'t arrange letters in the form of a word that occurs in any language ever.  The Maximegalon Dictionary of Every Language Ever could be helpful here.  We would end up with AWSOME names like:

Xgybrome Fompila
FroanZoa Demaquiet
 and MANY MANY MORE!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My origional name ingame was Stugador Induane, but I was forced to change it.  Now I\'m Induane Lasumi.  Our guild mates name was Ishita, but was forced to change it to Isitar.
Where are you supposed to find a name that doesn\'t occur in the real world?  Everything origional in this world is really a regurgitation of something that came before, or an evolution of it.  True origionality is a rarity, something that occurs in breif flashes of genius, and while PS is definately unique it isn\'t completely origional.  

Sincerely,

         Brant Allen Poe Watson   <---- This is my real name and I\'m not
                                                         changing it, sorry.

[remvak]

I agree with Induane, as someone once said: \"originality is dead\", like it or not every name and concept in fantasy stories derrived from something so you shouldn\'t really change names unless they are utterly stupid

[mikewsnc]

Roleplay

    * Naming Policy
      In the fantasy world of PlaneShift, players are encouraged to roleplay as much as possible in order to become fully immersed in the setting of the game. To assist this goal, these player naming standards have been created. The general rule is that the names must be compatible with the RPG style and spirit.

            All names violating #1, 2 and 3 will be changed by a GM sooner or later. If the player subsequently violates these terms again, they will be banned from the game:

         1. Names of popular book/film/game characters, widely known politicians, countries, movements and their leaders, religion, religion leaders or religious figures, actors, artists and trademarks.
         2. Parts of the name that have a cultural connotation incompatible with the RPG style as defined in the Planeshift Fantasy/Medieval setting should be avoided. Included, but not exhaustive, are: references to the cyber-culture, existing religions, politics, history, slang, ... The fact that the name part is in another language than English doesn\'t exclude it from this rule.
         3. Stupid names, like \"Spawnman\", \"Mrpussycat\", \"Evil\" and names that create a sentence with firstname + lastname, i.e. \"Leet Dude\", \"ImA God\", etc.
            Character names composed of common nouns, verbs and adjectives, or titles should be avoided as much as possible.

            Players violating rules #4 and 5 will be permanently banned:

         4. Words percieved as insults to any race, gender, ethnic origin, nationality, religion, politicians, actors, artists. This includes backwards and misspelled words that deliberately resemble a insult.
         5. Names that contain swears and are obviously made to provoke.
            Impersonations, especially of members of PS team or PS community, and names percieved as insults to members of PS team or PS community.

Under this logic they need to change my name
Aranis= Strong leader .... history Aranis is the name of the leader of the second army of guardians. That is part of the religion passed down to me from my ancestors. So I guess I can not use that name. Tell you what as long as someone doesn\'t outright call themselves god then let have some logic please.

Aranis
(or for the more planeshift correctness people out there....thayinmywhe) hope that works

[Induane]

(or for the more planeshift correctness people out there....thayinmywhe) hope that works

Yep that works great - I\'ve been thinking about changing my ingame name to:

Buiolpuqut Porbmenmegha

You don\'t think its too long do you?