Wings for Diaboli and other suggestions for them

[Bnm85]

I would like to strongly suggest wings for the Diaboli. Something like this maybe:

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/4417/characterwhirlingdeath032cx.jpg

Or at the very least, maybe a cross between Diaboli and Klyros (should make wing and anti-wing people happy). Here are some reasons and suggestions:

- Diaboli are obviously modeled after diablo/demons or hell angels. And those almost always have wings.

- There should be more than a single race with wings, so if people choose it for that purpose alone, they won\'t all be Klyros.

- I would like to play a non-all-goody race with wings but also with a humanoid looking face (not a huge fan of animal faces on humanoid bodies).

- Klyros sound cool with being able to fly and swim but no humanoid-looking faces. Plus, they already have a ton of other advantages over other races, and their average stats are still trainable to the max, even if it takes longer. They\'re not really an evil race. Plus, it would be boring to see everyone else be a Klyros just because of being able to fly/glide (and swim).

- Diaboli already have a huge disadvantage against blessed weapons and special magical items. Will there be anything to counter or deal double-damage on others? With extra difficulties, there have to be rewards that make it worth playing a more difficult race.

- Diaboli\'s Intelligence could also be better, since they seem to be geared for a ranged combat and some form of magic (because of blessed weapons, unless they\'ll have their own unholy weapons that deal double-damage against others).

Thanks.

[Talamir]

Saddly posted by Bnm85
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/4417/...gdeath032cx.jpg

Errrr...Your kidding...right?

Well anyway, I dont think that wings would be practical, given the history of the race on the site.

[Frank]

thats a nice pic of wings. did you do that yourself?

[Karyuu]

Indeed, the races and their descriptions are rather set in stone. They\'re the children of the Dev Gods ;)

Interesting reasons, but this is one suggestion that is impossible to accomodate.

[Robinmagus]

Originally posted by Frank
thats a nice pic of wings. did you do that yourself?

The pic in my opinion, looks like its from a really bad version of morrowind :/

[Bnm85]

Originally posted by Frank
thats a nice pic of wings. did you do that yourself?

Oh, no, I wish. It\'s a character from Neverwinter Nights. It\'s a bit blocky but I liked its wings.

[Bnm85]

Originally posted by Karyuu
Indeed, the races and their descriptions are rather set in stone. They\'re the children of the Dev Gods

Interesting reasons, but this is one suggestion that is impossible to accomodate.

All right, no problem. But what about an additional race, such as a cross between Diaboli and Klyros? Or has it been stated that there will be no more additional races? If not, oh well.

[Karyuu]

The no-additional-races statement is found within the FAQ on the main site ;)

[Bnm85]

Originally posted by Karyuu
The no-additional-races statement is found within the FAQ on the main site

Well, who reads FAQs anyway! Besides, I defy them! Anyway, that\'s a bummer... Now I\'m trying to decide between Diaboli and Klyros... How about a humanoid face option for Klyros then?

[Karyuu]

*grins* Through the powers of player-skinning! Wooo! Though their facial structures differ greatly, and then if you add an option for one anatomical difference, you come to a slippery slope with everything else.

We\'ll just have to deal with what we\'re offered :) Le sigh.

[Bnm85]

Damnit, I refuse to look like a reptile or a fish! The only saving grace then seems that the races other than Klyros can still fly with the use of Pterosaurs and Megaras (and probably faster too). Though it seems that will only be affordable at either high levels or with quite a bit of money.

[Karyuu]

Keep in mind that the Klyros will never fully fly. They will only glide a certain distance, and only down - meaning they\'ll have to be up a certain amount to do it successfully. So there aren\'t too many benefits at all.

[Bnm85]

Hmm, I\'ve been reading through several posts concerning Klyros before posting this thread and have found discussions about limited but high jumps for Klyros. Yes, I\'m aware they can\'t fully fly but rather glide. But what about the jumps (upwards) that are higher than any other character? If they can\'t do that, then it\'s a bit more comforting.

[Karyuu]

I lack information on that specific, but it wouldn\'t really make sense to have greater jumping height because of wings. If anything, their weight would initially pull you down more. I can\'t think of a single, anatomically correct winged creature (that exists outside of PlaneShift, of course) that jumps higher because of its wing appendages. So if the Klyros will jump higher, I\'m going to protest as well :P

[Bnm85]

Well, unless I misunderstood, I think the idea came from (and I don\'t necessarily support it) a Klyros flapping its wings, as it jumps, to gain extra height. It may have been just someone\'s theory, doesn\'t mean that the devs agree.

Ok, I found one of the posts here:

http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=14621&boardid=13&sid=6413802f7e97bfb186dab3d1dc53710a

And Xordan\'s quote from it:

\"...but I see klyros as being able to fly quite high if they arn\'t carrying anything. Now you won\'t be able to really travel using this, unless you practised flying to perfection (would take a long time to do), but it will be useful for going up cliffs where other races would have to climb.\"

So, unless he meant something else by \"flying high\" and \"going up cliffs\"...

Anyway, I\'m sure it was just one peron\'s view, and not set in stone.