Radiant Fate- Knowledge Keepers!!

[gupgohanss5]

Radiant Fate is now 8 days old, and with 165 members, many would say that we are a noobie guild. I say nay, Noob Guild, Tchh, we are a guild with a belief. That anyone, no matter how experianced or intellectual, has something to teach us. Call us a Zergguild or whatever you want, our guild has a job. To Collect and keep information, Knowledge. And to store it for the masses.

Others may say that we got to where we are only by mass recruiting. And they would be correct, the word is out. Within the first 3 days that our guild existed i mass recruited over 70 people. Yes, I did. It was spamming, and it was WRONG. Though, i soon rectofied the problem when a disgruntled player told me what i was doing wrong. Our guild has grown since then. To be the second largest guild.
 Yes, spamming may have gotten us to where we are, but we have renounced spamming, let it no longer plague planeshift.
We are now collecting info, we have maps, and monster info, relative strengths, etc. We are keeping knowledge, which will soon be available to the masses. So, Out with the old, and in with the new. Let our guild start off on a new step, one to glory, one mistake-free, on our climb to do Planeshift Justice, and to serve those that I lead.

Want to join? Please contact one of our members, just type /who radiant then /tell I want to join!!

www.radiantfate.tk

Charims
Guild Master for Radiant Fate

[Karyuu]

Knowledge of what, exactly? Everything in Yliakum? ;) So you\'re every other guild combined? Personally I would recommend something more specialized, since \"Knowledge\" is just too vague to do you any real good. Granted, you can have various ranks that specialize in different knowledge, but then your guild is just a walking library. What are your goals, besides collecting information? What do you plan to do with that information? There doesn\'t seem to be any real organization right now, at least not from your post.

No one is going to be impressed by the number of people in your guild, that has to be said no matter the point you were trying to make. What they are going to be impressed by is a clear statement of your guild purpose (which requires a clearer purpose to begin with), some sort of RP history, a list of innovative ranks and descriptions, and a functional and well-designed website (to which the link doesn\'t appear to work).

I think you still have lots of work to do ;)

[Valbrandr]

This is that part where I say \"someone will flame you but it will not be me\"... But every move you have made so far.... errr I c..a..n..t f..i..g..h..t it.  First, please post more info.  You need ranks, a history, and maybe some actual goals (Which I assume you will say \"We are here to gather info.\"  

Hmm.. so many other things to say....  Look, you should have thought your first post out alot better.  Read posts from other  guilds.. it should give you a good idea of how to put everything together.  And why do you want so many people.  Sure you may always have someone online... but how effective will your guild be?  There is no way to organize so many people.  And, if you care, you will always be considered noobs.  One last thing, if it is possible, try to do a little role play... if you want to do Planeshift Justice... Role playing is the answer because from what I have witnessed it is the essence of what Planeshift is.  

PS \"Seperot, Seperot, Seperot\"

*Valbrandr looks away from the mirror.  \"Hmm, maybe it doesnt work.\"  *Valbrandr Turns back on the light in the bathroom and and goes back to cry in his bed.

[Phinehas]

Originally posted by gupgohanss5
Radiant Fate is now 8 days old, and with 165 members, many would say that we are a noobie guild. I say nay, Noob Guild, Tchh, we are a guild with a belief. That anyone, no matter how experianced or intellectual, has something to teach us. Call us a Zergguild or whatever you want, our guild has a job. To Collect and keep information, Knowledge. And to store it for the masses.

Ok, so you admitted that you\'re a noob guild. That\'s one step.

Ok your goal... collecting knowledge...  you mean in the same sense that the \"Knowledge Seekers\" guild does? Or do you mean in a way that is totally ooc (such as... say... \"maps, and monster info, relative strengths\")? If it\'s the first, it\'d be bad, but bearable. If the second, inexcusable. You can\'t hand out info like that. It\'s wrong. Don\'t.

Others may say that we got to where we are only by mass recruiting. And they would be correct, the word is out. Within the first 3 days that our guild existed i mass recruited over 70 people. Yes, I did. It was spamming, and it was WRONG. Though, i soon rectofied the problem when a disgruntled player told me what i was doing wrong. Our guild has grown since then. To be the second largest guild.
 Yes, spamming may have gotten us to where we are, but we have renounced spamming, let it no longer plague planeshift.

Well, that\'s good. You realized that it\'s wrong. Now, did anyone mention that next to mass recruiting, the most annoying thing in PS guild-wise is to have a guild that has been mass recruited. Although it\'s not the action itself, the consequences are equally dire. Basically, you have a guild full of... nobody. How many of your players have ever been on the forums? How many are actually active? How many have actually logged on more than once? I don\'t doubt that you have a certain number of good, dedicated players. However, I\'m equally sure that you have, say... a hundred players who will never come in-game again. You need to purge. You also need to set some restrictions for joining.

We are now collecting info, we have maps, and monster info, relative strengths, etc. We are keeping knowledge, which will soon be available to the masses. So, Out with the old, and in with the new. Let our guild start off on a new step, one to glory, one mistake-free, on our climb to do Planeshift Justice, and to serve those that I lead.

Want to join? Please contact one of our members, just type /who radiant then /tell I want to join!!

http://www.radiantfate.tk

Charims
Guild Master for Radiant Fate

Ok... lacking ranks, substantial goals, history... most of the things that make up a real guild. I\'m not even going to check the website. If you even bothered to post about your guild on these forums, you should have posted the above info as well. It\'s standard. Look at any other guild thread and you\'ll see that info, or see it put in fairly quickly, or see a dead guild.

Ok... positive side... Nice guild name. Unique, acceptable. Good job overall. Now if you could only think of a purpose behind that name, so as to not make it lose all its charm by being utterly random. Also on the good side... umm... you\'re enthusiastic? Yeah... that\'s a positive... I guess. Just remember, enthusiasm without intelligence isn\'t nothing, so start putting some brain-power into this and it could turn out good.

P.S. If you think this is a flame, you\'ll be shocked to hear that I can\'t believe how positive it sounded.

*edit* Basically to sum this up... This guild has 160 members and was created by someone who has never posted on the forums before, and has a name that is... well... non-RP to say the least.

[Drey]

gupgohanss5
Radiant Fate is now 8 days old, and with 165 members

i am really not sure that having all those member is a good idea, you accept anyone..?

gupgohanss5
Noob Guild

yup i totaly agree, see above

Karyuu
I think you still have lots of work to do

*points at karyuu \"what she said\"*

plus you will never learn the stuff that i know


ps. wow, so many quote... reminds me of english exams.

[Nilrem]

I\'m not going to discuss if it\'s a good RP guild or not.

What i\'ll tell is the following:
I talked with a member of \"Radiant Fate\" and she was happy to be in that guild, because she felt that was helped.

When one is a new player, some assistance is needed.
If this guild offers that assistance, then I see nothing wrong, they can decide to join another guild whenever they want to.
If this guild, gives them the needed support to be able to move around (telling them the more than known at this point FAQ that a new player has) then I welcome that guild.
And if a new player feels more comfortable, more welcomed, being in that guild, then i welcome that guild again.

Because, before even thinking of roleplaying, a player has to feel comfortable in this world.

[Sangwa]

It\'s no surprise really, there has always been mass recruiting guilds.
It\'s just sad that someone would take pride in being one of them.

I wouldn\'t say it\'s a \"Radiant Fate\" to be dragged into a mass recruiting guild, just because you\'re still too ignorant to know better.

97 people, makes us the fourth largest guild. Keep up the good work guys!!

Even though you have 165 members, as far as I can see you\'re alone in the guild forum. Yes, keep the good work guy.

Nilrem: It\'s not wrong to create a guild that looks out to help new players. But it\'s ridiculous to buy them, and then brag about the fact that you have oh-so-many players.

[Induane]

They are a new guild, and as such they are bound to make mistakes.  Obviously they are willing to learn from such mistakes.  Its a daunting tast to start and keep a guild running successfully.  Perhaps they should have waited to start a guild, but thats beside the point as they already did.  I think that if they can put about 1/4th the effort into sustaining the guild as was put into recruiting then they\'ll do just fine.  

We didn\'t really have any idea what we were doing when we started our guild too.  Things just get figured out along the way

Good luck with everything.

[gupgohanss5]

Thankyou everyone for your criticism, yes we must make a clearer image of ourselves, thankyou for pointing that out. Everyone keeps saying that i need to cleanse my ranks, it has already occured, and continues to occur, i remove members who have not signed up on the forums within 7 days of entering the guild. That is why we have very high usage of our forums. I also keep tabs of the last time the user was online. I think the way my ranks are kept clean should occur to me, and my guild.
Also, our guild may be growing fast, that IS a good thing, it allows us to sift through members and find the ones that are valuable to our cuase, which is each and every one as long as they participate.

Has anyone ever heard of Reno, Nevada, US. It is the fastest growing city in the united states. Some people have commented on the stability of our guild becuase it is growing too fast. Reno still thrives, and is growing faster than Las Vegas. Most people who move into Reno, move out within a year, therefore, all those who stay are good reno citizens. Therefore, high movement, High productivity.

[Drey]

like the REM song, All The Way To Reno

[gupgohanss5]

lol, yeah

[gupgohanss5]

Originally posted by Sangwa

Even though you have 165 members, as far as I can see you\'re alone in the guild forum. Yes, keep the good work guy.

Actually, you are too ignorant to notice that to see the whole forums you msut be signed up on the forums, yes, i alone post in the news area becuase i edited the permissions of the forums.

\"there are none as ignorant as those who will not learn\"

[Thoronador]

Originally posted by gupgohanss5
Also, our guild may be growing fast, that IS a good thing, it allows us to sift through members and find the ones that are valuable to our cuase, which is each and every one as long as they participate.

You\'re right.
On first sight Radiant Fate seems to be a mass recruiting guild. But members who don\'t show a certain amount of activity will not be allowed to stay in that guild for long.

What i\'ll tell is the following:
I talked with a member of \"Radiant Fate\" and she was happy to be in that guild, because she felt that was helped.

When one is a new player, some assistance is needed.
If this guild offers that assistance, then I see nothing wrong, they can decide to join another guild whenever they want to.
If this guild, gives them the needed support to be able to move around (telling them the more than known at this point FAQ that a new player has) then I welcome that guild.
And if a new player feels more comfortable, more welcomed, being in that guild, then i welcome that guild again.

I completely agree with Nilrem in that point.

Some said we are a newbie guild, and maybe they are right for now. But we help and support each other, and we learn from our mistakes. Everyone once started as a noob, that\'s clear. And it is no crime to be a noob, but to stay a noob forever surely is.
The whole thing is about experience. It would be somehow odd to compare a guild which mainly consists of players who have been playing for some days to an \"old\" guild, where most members are playing for several weeks or months.
So let some time pass by, and you will see Radiant Fate prosper.

[Karyuu]

All this talk of prospering, but still no visible attempts to rectify the original problem - lack of true substance ;) Or perhaps something more immediate - a working website link. I think before a guild can be considered as serious, these issues absolutely must be addressed.

[Thoronador]

Originally posted by Karyuu
Or perhaps something more immediate - a working website link.

I don\'t know which link you are talking about, but we do have a website. Every tried http://www.radiantfate.tk  ??

However, you won\'t be able to see much of our forums, because only registered users can see the whole forum.