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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2005, 08:26:59 pm »
actually you can build the linux client yourself and not have to wait for the binary to come out.  I think it\'s also possible on the mac, but probably much harder.  For linux, check the build guides at laanx.fragnetics.com, and make sure you follow the instructions to the letter.  (and no sense doing it now, wait until they update the build guide with a new CVS date)
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2005, 09:11:16 pm »
The wipe is coming!!! Finally... I heard people saying it wouldn\'t happen until December. But the random item generation makes me wonder, what types of items will be randomly generated? Monster parts? Weapons? Crafting materials?

And yes, ensure a good supply of rats and other small creatures for all of us who shall soon become newbies again.
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2005, 09:31:09 pm »
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Furthermore, if the item wipe will erase all items, it must also restore the money to whatever one had after the creation, and also the stats, because otherwise people will simply convert all items into money and train it away to store it. This means that the state a char is in right after the creation must be stored so that it can be copied back without requiring another char creation. However, this means that all problems and issues created by the unsuccessfull / buggy char creations will have to be corrected twice.

That\'s what Jorrit and I have been discussing earlier. There is no perfect solution to this problem unless if the character names are not changed. So either our inventories are reset and we lose a few items, which is really not a big issue, or they try to apply a partial migration step but that sounds a bit doubtful to me.

The best would be a set of flags to mark object as looted, handcrafted and so on, but I\'m sure this is part of the long-term planning.
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Seriously, I feel that the big wipe is not justified just yet. In fact, I\'m nearly certain that another big wipe will be required if it is done now, and a lot of GM action will be required to correct for bugs in both char creation as well as ingame.
Well, at least that will give GMs a justification to exist, since enforcement of the naming rules have been removed, which was the worst move in PS yet. The wipe would be a very good point to correct this mistake, and also for all oldbies and GMs who don\'t have suitable names yet. If we fail to wipe this hypocrisy, then we may just as well allow cheating.

GMs don\'t have the power to touch others\' statistics and inventories whatsoever. Please don\'t hassle them with that ;)

What was the worst move, enforcing RP names, or relaxing this rule? I fail to see your argument with the oldbie names.

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2005, 09:32:05 pm »
Finally!!! some news on the update that ive been checking the webpage constantly for over the last few weeks!

Anyway i dont understand these randomly generated items. Do you mean weapons with random stats or what? I dont understand.

Also THANK YOU SO MUCH for the wipe and the update, being an artistically minded person, however, i look forward more to the level changes and new visual changes, but for the average player this update sounds great.

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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2005, 09:56:19 pm »
[SIZE=8]~YAY!~[/SIZE]

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A few comments though...:

1)  I have to agree with Seytra 90% on this one.  The character creation problems need to be fixed.  They\'ll just cause more problems if they aren\'t.  Though, with a double wipe scenario, theoretically they could fix it for the second (permanent) wipe.

2)  MB migration...  Many a MBer has said they received a psychotic amount of money in the migration.  (I tried PS back in AB, then MB, but didn\'t have a decent enough computer till CB came around.) If there is to be a wipe, are these people going to start rich again?

3)  Please tell me the dark red potions have been fixed and/or destroyed!  Not to mention the rest of the potions.  They last till logout, instead of for time limits.  Thus, some people can stay on indefinitely and keep the effects, and others (like me) crash too often to use them at all.

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2005, 10:10:55 pm »
I have one big concern after reading Seytra post.
From this what i have understod, there is one wipe coming soon ofter this update and another, items wipe planned in case of random looting system not working right.
I say, deleting only items won\'t solve the problem.
Let\'s say a player will loot over 100.000 tria in 1 hour because of a bug. He will go sell his items and start training. I don\'t know how the progression system has been changed, but with current rules, without any bug, it wouldnt last long before all those trias would be spent.
That\'s why items wipe won\'t solve problem of looting bugged amount of exensive items.
With my state of informations, I propose to merge both of those wipes into one which would happen then when the items wipe would be expected to happen.

As for random looting feature.
I think it will be like there will be defined types of items for each killable NPC and some system will decide how many of those items and which will be available to loot from killed NPC.



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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2005, 10:15:51 pm »
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I propose to merge both of those wipes into one which would happen then when the items wipe would be expected to happen.

The first wipe is necessary to enact the updates.  The second is necessary to correct the flaws in the updates.  Both will be needed for their plan.

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2005, 11:08:43 pm »
You\'re perfectly right, Nikodemus. We have to assume those looted items won\'t be accepted by the NPCs.

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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2005, 11:15:33 pm »
Im excited.  Ahh, finally doomsday is here!! This is going to be great.

(Sorry to excited to post anything helpful  :D )

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2005, 01:02:29 am »
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You\'re perfectly right, Nikodemus. We have to assume those looted items won\'t be accepted by the NPCs.

If we assume that we can\'t sell looted items, then there is almost no point in killing NPC\'s. And the only source of income for training skills is mining. That wouldn\'t make people happy =D



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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2005, 03:10:06 am »
*pouncehugs Talad*
THANK YOU!
 I have been waiting for a new update for so long =(

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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2005, 03:18:22 am »
So do we retransfer before or after?  ?(

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« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2005, 03:18:22 am »
wish it\'d take the last feww weeks away aswell

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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2005, 03:47:02 am »
PLEASE LET US KEEP OUR MUGS!!!!!!!!!!
(I got 2 mugs from people who where in MB and I want to keep them)

Anyway, I cant wait til the update. It seems awesome. I am also wondering what kind of new item drops there are?
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2005, 04:08:04 am »
I can remember my account for MB but not my password...what could it have been. :(
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