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[Shadowfax]

Us MB\'ers were allowed to migrate our players and any crystals or itmes we owned was converted to tria. It was to reward us for all the time we had spent crystal hunting. People didn\'t want all that time to be a waste. So was it fair? Yes it was.

Now that CB is being wiped we are being allowed to start again with what we were given from the MB migration because  we had recieved that fairly.

Nothing gained in CB is being migrated because the point of the migration is to fix the unfair advatnages some bugs etc. caused in CB. To migrate those things would give no point to the wipe.

If you werent here in MB then tough luck. You should have found Planeshift sooner like the rest of us.

So fair? Yes I think it is.

[gissamuel]

Would dropping weapons be a good idea for some monsters? A newbie would spend less time getting resources and would have a weapon at the start of hte game if lucky. Would that take away from the game though for some people? I like the idea of more stuff dropping since money was hard to come by, but it would be wise to give the weapon dropping to only the stronger monsters would\'nt it? Of course then you would have thousands of newbies following someone asking for them to kill creatures they are too small for or a bunch of handouts. I like the idea of the game easier, but I would not like it handed to me on a silver platter. Half the fun is getting to your goal on whatever you are working on. I also like the idea of starting over. That is what games are all about when you have done most of everything. Accept the fact I do not have any MMORPG knowledge whatsoever before you comment on that.

[Eolius]

Well, it isn\'t fair but it has some fairness
It is good to reward oold faithfull players someway.
And...MB was bugged aswell .
And about the tria advantage...
Is it THAT big? I din\'t think so. Actualy you should RP and level along the way. Do you care if a MB char starts with 15k trias more than you? Level a bit and you can balance that advantage in one day. I actualy made 20k in one day because there wasn\'t much going on  (that day) and  i got stucked killing a rougue

[DaveG]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
If you werent here in MB then tough luck. You should have found Planeshift sooner like the rest of us.

That was very rude.

First of all, I found PS back in AB.  My computer just sucked till CB came around.

Secondly, it was pointed out earlier that unfair advantages were around in the crystal hunt, as well.

Thirdly, there are plenty of people that \"didn\'t want all that time to be a waste\" in CB, some of which (like me) don\'t care and agree that it should all be wiped.  I don\'t care that MBers will have a few extra thousand tria at start.  As Eolius pointed out, that\'s really not that much.  What annoys me, is that the re-migration re-rewards MBers while ignoring everyone else.  It\'s the principle of the thing.

Fourthly, what\'s the point of doing a wipe, but not wiping everything?  How can you claim to be getting rid of unfair advantages, when you intentionally start out with one?  Granted, it\'s a pre-alpha test, but it\'s still annoying.  Again, it\'s the principle of the thing.

[brenard]

as anybody noticed someone is online or is that just a dev testing something out
 Total Online: 1
ill just try to go online... i cant get online but the person online is talad who i believe is a moderator
more info needed
....sorry bout that ive just come on the forums lately

[Shadowfax]

Originally posted by Eolius
And...MB was bugged aswell .

Yes that is true but the bugs in MB would let you walk through or climb walls and stuff like that which aren\'t really things that would give people unfair advantages. And there was no skills to earn so you there wasn\'t any bugs that could give you an advantage with those, like a quest you could do over and over. And in CB I think there was also a problem that allowed people to spawn items. So MB\'s wipe was only because of the server change and the new version. CB\'s wipe is because of cheating and unfair advantage caused to bugs etc.

I\'m sure there will be more wipe in the future that will allow migrations. It all depends on the reason for the wipe.

And yea its not that big of an advantage so people not around in MB don\'t have to worry. They can catch up. It is just a reward for those who have been around since MB and had to spend countless hours looking for crystals.

Edit:
Rude? It\'s just the truth.  

And the point is it isn\'t really unfair. We worked for those few thousand tria. And yea it sucks that all the time in CB is lost but we are loosing the time we spent in CB too.

[DaveG]

Originally posted by brenard
as anybody noticed someone is online or is that just a dev testing something out
 Total Online: 1
ill just try to go online

For the billionth time:  Yes, that\'s a dev.

Originally posted by Demarthl
the server has been active for several hours so far, devs have been going on and off, but it remains \'locked\' as they check what went wrong fix it and run over a few final tests, what for? i dont know, so, behave! or you get no dessert!

EDIT:
@Shadowfax:  You didn\'t read the rest of the thread... and frankly, I don\'t blame you...  

Originally posted by Seytra

Originally posted by DaveG
People will be re-importing their MB characters.  Will we start post-wipe with some super rich people from crystal -> tria conversions?

Indeed we will. And I maintain that the crystal transfer was a bad idea. Not because I didn\'t get to hunt > 2 rubies due to crappiness of my computer, but because the crystal hunt was the worst form of grind ever, has been cheated, hacked and bugged beyond all recognition, and also because it was not intended to be kept, just the continous whining made the devs transfer the crystals. Granted, the transfer isn\'t linear, but still.

Ya know... this thread is going in circles now...  :rolleyes:

[Shadowfax]

Lol yea I think the Devs should just put their foot down and wipe the whole thing and just let the oldbies have their rings of the past so their can prove they were there way back when as they like to do. This community is so divided on every issue. I kinda feel bad for the Devs they ca\'t do anything with out a fight. People should respect the Devs decisions since they are the ones making the game and not fight them on everything they do.

[DaveG]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
Lol yea I think the Devs should just put their foot down and wipe the whole thing and just let the oldbies have their rings of the past so their can prove they were there way back when as they like to do. This community is so divided on every issue. I kinda feel bad for the Devs they ca\'t do anything with out a fight. People should respect the Devs decisions since they are the ones making the game and not fight them on everything they do.

I agree entirely.

PS has a community that wants to contribute to it, more or less.  There\'s nothing wrong with a little constructive debate, now and again.  But yeah, after decisions are made people just need to accept it and move on... probably to the next debate...

[Madouc]

I (as being an \'oldbie\' or whatever) don\'t care for christal->tria conversion, but i would like to continue to play my character and a rememberance would be nice (aka \'the ring of the past\').
So that\'s why i think the migration should happen.

By the way, why shouldn\'t they let people migrate manually from the current CB database?
This would also get rid of non-used accounts.

[DaveG]

Originally posted by Madouc
By the way, why shouldn\'t they let people migrate manually from the current CB database?

Too much stuff is FUBARed... to many people with money/items from exploits... people with level 200 in Red Way from dark red potions... glitched characters from the broken character creation stuff... etc... etc... etc...

[fken]

Originally posted by Sindar
well i think its quite wrong myself, allowing people to transfer tria from a game that nobody can play anymore (giving them an advantage) in the game ,since mb was shut down before 2005. a migration of characters sure (but tria?) that just seems a little  wrong for everyone else who was not able to play in 04.
 Was the same migration done for Atomic Blue to Molecular Blue?
but anyways i just think its wrong to give them tria .items they can not sell wouldn\'t be so bad.
Ofcourse i doubt any character who played on the mb server would be happy. but its fair isn\'t it? After all i have seen potions,rings and swords migrated along with tria, why can they just (migrate) the account with nothing in it? Us non mb players who have been playing for months may feel cheated or left out

a lot of people from MB are those who gave weapons to newbees in Hyddla... I dont think it would be unfair to give to the old member of the ps commubity something for their patience...

I dont think you have a clue of how much time MB\'s players had to wait to see CB... And it depends on the amount of crystals you fund...

[Eolius]

a lot of people from MB are those who gave weapons to newbees in Hyddla... I dont think it would be unfair to give to the old member of the ps commubity something for their patience...     I dont think you have a clue of how much time MB\'s players had to wait to see CB... And it depends on the amount of crystals you fund...

Not only them gave weappons to newbies, i gave some too but i found out eventualy that it isn\'t such a great ideea since 60% of those newbies didn\'t returned.

Edit : For those who think that having some trias will put some people in front of others let me tell you this thing:
Are money the most important advantage? Think about knoledge of the world... That is a big advantage. And no wipe can take that away.
So old players always start with an advantage.
That is not bad, it is only normal.

[jimmyknife]

My first day in game i was given a sword & shield and showed the ropes. It was very helpfull and the other 40% who stayed appreciated and prob returned the favor.

[pigottsm]

okay, i hate to argue with you on this point, but on my first day, i killed over a hundred rats. i never got a sword/axe.

i had to work for every tria.

i have trained many noobs, only two have stayed. it kinda makes me think it\'s not worth it when i put a thound tria into three guys and only one stays, what do you guys thing=k

(yes i realixe this probably makes no sense)