Quest for the Crystal - Recruitment/Rules/Out of Character Discussion

[Fiere]

LOL I should hope the drow didn\'t match!! They aren\'t even related.

[FyreBlade]

Originally posted by Pheonix
Also I checked a few drow words against the elven and nothing I checked was even close.

pheonix, i\'m not sure what you are saying here but if you are saying that the drow dictionary is incorrect, i\'d like to dispute that. the drow language is nothing like the elven language. also, in this case, it is drawn from the forgotten realms universe, especially from R.A. Salvatore\'s stories. i know enough about that particular fantasy universe to know that many of the phrases they have there are correct, so i\'m pretty sure it\'s accurate.

edit: oops, Fiere and me posted at the same time, so that\'s why we\'re both saying the same thing.

[Princess Aelya]

ahh the drow. my favorite race of all time I would argue that no race can compare to the drow\'s beautiful lust for battle and power.

[Pheonix]

OK im pretty sure Elves and Drow are connected in the distant past......hence me looking for some similarities in their languages.
No I am not saying because they dont match up that the Drow is incorrect I was just hoping to find a similarity or two.
Looking for something to substantuate my belief now.


Ok long history via http://www.santharia.com

Shadow Elves. A rare elven kind, the Shadow Elves are the opposite of the Light Elves, capturing the very essence of Co?r. They are found mostly in the Water Marshes of Northern Sarvonia; the area that once was the mythical elven kingdom of F?\'?v\'c?l\'?r. These elves, while close to the Father of Shadows, as they call him, are not inherently evil. Most of the time, they lean towards neutrality. Shadow Elves are found outside of the Marshes only in the most atypical of circumstances. Also, like Light Elves, it is unusual to find them in corporeal form. When appearing within a physical body, Shadow Elves have ebony colored skin and snow white hair.



Dark Elves. Possibly the most dangerous of elven kind, these elves follow the path led by the shadow of Co?r. It must be emphasized that dark elves cannot be counted as elves who offend against elven principles as a whole. While they are an offshoot of the Shadow Elves, it must be understood that their principles are intrinsically different. While in fact they are as nature-loving as all other kinds of elves, Dark Elves favour the dark side of nature, which is also an legimate way to honor the deeds of Av? the Beautiful - by destroying it. Dark Elves acquire a pale skin tone from a lifetime of living in the darkness of their shadowy forest homes, whitening with age. Conversely, their hair and eyes become darker and darker until they reach a jet black color in the oldest of Dark Elves. These elves are also called \"Drow\".

[Fiere]

I looked briefly at this site ( which I will definately be checking out again in the future) but I am still confused.

The Santharian Dream seems to be a roleplaying realm based on the works of Tolkien. To my knowledge the fallen elves in Tolkien lore became the orcs.The Drow were a creation of TSR for the D&D RPG or so I thought.

It was my understanding, although D&D is heavily based on Tolkien, that these are two seperate \"mythologies\" and therefore not actually related.  

Help me out here?

[Wormtail_]

*Clears throat and changes topic*

Back to what this thread was about: The RPT, not long discussions about whether the Drow and Elves are related or not. Then again, I\'m not taking any sides, as I\'m to lazy to even check what the Drow are, so I would have had to either not post or just stand somewhere, staring.

Anyways, a map of part of the Stone Labryniths has been completed, and I am just looking for a good place to \'host\' it on. I might just register for some free website thingy, and upload it there...

The monster list for Stone Labryniths so far, and things I think we all know what they are(Things with question marks  mean I am not sure whether I really want them in there or not. By \'there,\' I mean the Labryniths):

Mimic
Troll
Goblins(?)
Orcs(?)
Labrynith Spiders(Check link Parasite gave)
Minotaur(?, I am really not sure if I want them in there, might twist idea of Minotaurs a bit)

Monsters I came up with so far:

Gold Clacciatore

A small creature that looks like a pile of gold. This creature, though small, is very dangerous. Many a miner has lost his life or limb due to greed. These little piles of gold have small, razer sharp teeth that can cut off any creature\'s arms(Except ones with hard skin, like Kran and armored people) within about ten minutes. These can also jump about 5 feet high,, too, but are very smooth, so they have to grip really tightly to their victim. The only difference from these to regular old piles of gold is that they shine rather brightly, and the fact that they look like a pile of coins glued together with miniscule yet abundant arms and hands. However, most don\'t notice until it\'s too late. By then, they\'d have noticed the other differences too. These are common underground.

[Pheonix]

*shrugs*
I have always been under the impression that Drow and Elves were realted Fiere.
But just like the other convo I think we can best settle this in Pm and stop clogging up the forum.
=p

[Golbez]

I do not mean to change the topic, I have followed the RolePlaying thread for quite some time now. It is always good to see other people who also like RPing

But as far as I know, the Drows do not exist in the world of Tolkien (Haven\'t read the Lord of the Rings....yet...but I will next year), and are a creation from D&D pen and paper games. Now, I had always considered the Drows to be very distant relatives of the Elves, as I had never read anything that said this is not true.

For Wormtail: Drows, which I believe are also called Dark Elves by some (The Elder Scrolls series...Arena, Daggerfall and Morrowind) are creatures of darkness, with black skin, white hair and red eyes. They have Elven features, according to some, like the classic pointy ears. While some state they are shorter than the average High Elf (which would be very similar to PS Dermorians), I have also seen description of Drows as taller and more muscular than other High Elves.

Everywhere I\'ve been consider them to be relatives, albeit very distant ones. Now, we know there are different types of Elves: High Elves, Golden Elves, Sea Elves, etc. Drows would be, as stated above, Dark Elves. They are very fond of Darkness, thus they mostly live underground (this does not mean, however, that they are evil by nature). This way of living means they are also physically different to other Elves, and that is the explanation for their skin color, hair and eyes.

I would say the main difference between Drows and other Elves is the culture, which is very well described in the site provided by Pheonix:

http://www.grey-company.org/Circle/index2.htm

I honestly do not know what language Drows speak, or whether it is similar to the Elven one or not. But judging by the culture of the Drow, I wouldn\'t be surprised if they have a language of their own. This goes to FyreBlade: Why would a Klyros, a race with no contact with Drows, speak their language?

So, to conclude, I agree with Pheonix when he says that Drows and Elves are related.

Now Fiere, if you read anything about the Drows being completely unrelated to Elves, please tell me where, I would love to read it.

Oh, and Aelya loves Drows, perhaps she can tell us more about them

Now please, go on with your RolePlaying Thread discussion, I shall trouble you no more.

[Princess Aelya]

i know a bit of the history of the drow. They once lived with the other elves in peace. but there were those who were born with dark hearts and different beliefs. the normal elves found this to be an affront to what they stand for. so they cast out the elves that would become drow. they were no longer accepted as elves. when they realied this they fled into a cave which led underground. now known as the \"underdark\". they started there own civilization in the underdark and built great cities through the caverns of the underdark. after a time of living in darkness their skin turned a greyish-black color, and their hair turned a pale white. their eyes turned red as means for seeing through darkness. they called themselves \"drow\" elves.

so, phoenix is correct. the drow and elves are related.

[Fiere]

/sigh I never said Drow and elves were not related.
I said the languages in the links I posted were not related.

Ill copy out some IM\'s so we don\'t drag this out any farther here.

[Golbez]

My bad. I apologise for misundertanding what you meant, Fiere. And sorry all for rambling on, trying to explain something when there was no need for an explanation. I guess I get a little carried away sometimes.

Well, enjoy your RolePlaying. I will be watching .

Golbez turns around, covering his head with the hood of his dark cloak. The Enkidukai walks away from the group, without looking back, disappearing in the darkness. Perhaps, someday, he would meet them again...

(Mmmmm...that reminds me of the RolePlaying thread we had at Kada\'s...it is a shame it was lost)

[Wormtail_]

All right, I\'m getting the map...

I warn you, however, that it is rather... primitive. It was made by Paint and posted on Geocities. It was the best I could come up with... Other than taking screenshots off Age of Kings, but that would take too long. I\'ll add the link to the map later, in this post.

EDIT: Ahh... the primitive map that I don\'t think anyone would actually understand... anyways, it\'s over there. *Points at link under this sentence*

http://www.geocities.com/wormtail90/map.bmp

The little portal thing is just a big hole in the ground. I just figured that portal was just a fancier way of saying it.   The gold can be either fake or real.

[Pheonix]

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Yeap this is what i got when i tried to goto the link

[Fiere]

Me too but if you cut and paste the addy it works.

[Pheonix]

Cutting and pasting works thanks Fiere,


Erm who or what do the ally blobs represent?
Places where other people can enter the game ?