Problems with your ATI Radeon card?

[Moogie]

The most recent official Radeon drivers for Windows do not work with PlaneShift.

Go to OmegaDrivers.net and get theirs.




Thanks to DaveG for this.

[Drey]

ive never had any problems with radeon and planeshift... but then i have no clue of the roll that the drivers play, i might gives these a go maybe later on if i can be bothered.


did you know that if you highlight that smiling smiley in normal windows blue highlight thing, he goes all sad.

[Xordan]

I\'ve had enough of my Radeon >:|
Buying a nvidia card seems the best solution.

[DaveG]

Two people complained about ATI junk in one day, so I figure a nicely labeled \"Important\" sticky...... would probably be ignored...... but it\'s the thought that counts.  

Radeon 9700, 9600, 9200, 7500, and all mobile versions have reported issues.  And those are just the ones I found quickly.  I\'ve lost track of the ATI cards that don\'t work with PS...  :rolleyes:  After searching around the forums a bit, I found it\'s not just Windows either... there\'s a few Linux complaints, too.  

My Radeon worked just fine, till I updated the drivers.  (Ironic that the #1 troubleshooting tip backfired.)  The 3rd party ones from Omega work better than the old ones that came with the card, and they don\'t crash... which is always good.  If you\'re iffy about 3rd party drivers, you can try downgrading to the 2002 drivers if you can get them.  Unfortunately, I can\'t take Xordan\'s advice, because I\'m using a laptop... not that upgradeable...

[res]

Originally posted by DaveG
Radeon 9700, 9600, 9200, 7500, and all mobile versions have reported issues.  

What kind of issues? I\'m running a Radeon 9700 with latest drivers myself and I don\'t see anything wrong.

[DaveG]

Issues like getting 2 frames a second and crashing...  If the official drivers work for you, great.  It seems to be a weird issue...

[res]

Originally posted by DaveG
Issues like getting 2 frames a second and crashing...  

The more detailed and specific the error reports are, the higher the chances for fixes are...

[DaveG]

I have the mobile version, which has the most complaints, and it crashes within a minute of loading the world.  Others don\'t seem to get that far, and others still have just complained about a noticeable performance hit.


Here are the threads with brief summaries:
(I ~think~ I got most of them)

Terrible performance! Please help...
ATI RadeOn 9200 SE 128 MB on Windows
1-5 FPS; graphical glitch at character creation; wouldn\'t go to full-screen fully
Switch to 3rd party drivers fixed it.

ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
ATI Radeon 9600/9700 Mobility on Windows
After PlaneShift update on 22.08.2005, the whole system freezes after 2 steps in-game
Switch to 3rd party drivers fixed it.

Help - screen freeze
ATI Radeon 9600 128MB on PowerMac G5
Freeze during all combat
Downgrade of settings file fixed it.

Game doesn\'t open
ATI Radeon 9200 on Windows
Crashes on load; stays listed as an active proccess, without a window
No reply.

Direct Rendering not working with Planeshift
ATI Radeon 9700 Mobility on SuSE Linux
Error at startup
Downgrade of kernel fixed it.  (?)

If your Radeon doesnt work, post here!
ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility AGP 32MB on Windows (2 listings)
ATI Radeon 7500 AllInWonder PCI 64MB on Windows
ATI Radeon 9800 XT on Windows
ATI Radeon 7500 AGP 64MB on Windows
\"No hardware acceleration\" errors; DirectDraw errors
Seems to be fixed with switch to 3rd party drivers.  (No reply.)

First load screen
ATI Radeon 7000 series on Windows
Crashes on load
Fixed by updating PlaneShift

Choppy performance - Indirect rendering?
ATI Radeon 9600 with 64-bit drivers on Gentoo Linux
ATI Radeon 9800 AllInWonder Pro on Linux
1-8 FPS; \"no indirect rendering\" errors
Fix may be to compile kernel without DRI support (No replys; second card was not fixed by this)

Can\'t launch the game
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB on Windows
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB on Ubuntu Hoary Linux
Crashes on load; error with cstgaimg.dll (dump posted)
Workaround by ignoring errors, and letting PlaneShift load in the background.  (?)

CS - openGL - Radeon issues
ATI Radeon IGP 320M on Slackware Linux
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro on Windows
Max CPU on execution of \"_ZNI4csGraphics3D4OpenEv\"; 1 FPS
Possible faulty code listed.

PlaneShift freezing
ATI Radeon 9600 XT on Windows
Freezes after 10-45 minutes
No replies.

A crash right in the beginning
ATI Radeon 9000 64MB on Windows
Crashes when character turns; error with atioglxx.dll
No reply.

Computer crashes
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB on Windows
Crashes after a few minutes
Possible fix is to force AGP2x instead of AGP4x.  (No reply.)

Suse Linux 9 and ATI do this before installing
ATI Radeon 8500+ on SuSE Linux
2 drivers listed to fix various problems.
Recommends running ldconfig as root after installing to refresh the dynamic linker cache.

gfx ati radeon mobility M6 LY : no 3d
ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY on Linux
\"no graphic renderer\" error; driconf doesn\'t work; \"libGL is too old\" error
No reply.

Ati Radeon 9550 256MB
Thinking of getting an ATI card
Seems like he might have ended up with an nVIDIA card.  (No reply.)

[Tips]How to not crash in CB and others
ATI Radeon 9600 XT
Crashes with Vertex Buffer Object on
Solution:  Don\'t turn it on

Issues going back into 2004 and older are fixed by a normal 1st party drivers update.

[res]

Originally posted by DaveG
I have the mobile version, which has the most complaints, and it crashes within a minute of loading the world.  Others don\'t seem to get that far, and others still have just complained about a noticeable performance hit.

Yeah, for mobile versions you\'re usually at the mercy of the laptop vendor, and afaik commonly they don\'t really give updates at all. In this case, Omega drivers are preferable (though, ATIs own mobile drivers are prolly better than vendor drivers, too).
As you may know, ATI offered mobile drivers only recently. The non-mobile drivers don\'t even install machines with on ATI mobile chips - so any drivers are likely crappy vendor drivers as mentioned above. For that reason I\'ll just ditch all Mobile error reports :P

Originally posted by DaveG
Terrible performance! Please help...
ATI RadeOn 9200 SE 128 MB on Windows
1-5 FPS; graphical glitch at character creation; wouldn\'t go to full-screen fully
Switch to 3rd party drivers fixed it.

Says: \"I had some generic Windoze stuff\" ... so ATI drivers probably had helped that guys the same way.

Originally posted by DaveG
Help - screen freeze
ATI Radeon 9600 128MB on PowerMac G5
Freeze during all combat
Downgrade of settings file fixed it.

Having a hard time deciphering the solution provided. If changing some settings file fixed the issue, the driver may not to be blamed at all. But otoh, I don\'t know the OS/X driver quality; but then, official vs Omega is prolly moot anyway - or is there an Omega for OS/X? :P

Originally posted by DaveG
Game doesn\'t open
ATI Radeon 9200 on Windows
Crashes on load; stays listed as an active proccess, without a window
No reply.

Real issue stays unknown; from the description given I would not immediately blame the driver, though.

Originally posted by DaveG
Direct Rendering not working with Planeshift
ATI Radeon 9700 Mobility on SuSE Linux
Error at startup
Downgrade of kernel fixed it.  (?)

May be a system configuration issue, may be a CS issue.

Originally posted by DaveG
If your Radeon doesnt work, post here!
ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility AGP 32MB on Windows (2 listings)
ATI Radeon 7500 AllInWonder PCI 64MB on Windows
ATI Radeon 9800 XT on Windows
ATI Radeon 7500 AGP 64MB on Windows
\"No hardware acceleration\" errors; DirectDraw errors
Seems to be fixed with switch to 3rd party drivers.  (No reply.)

\"No hardware acceleration\" probably means that no ATI drivers are installed at all and Microsoft\'s sucky default OpenGL kicks in.
Wrt \"DirectDraw\" errors... I wonder how the respective posters came to this conclusion. PS itself does not come with a trace of code using DDraw.

Originally posted by DaveG
First load screen
ATI Radeon 7000 series on Windows
Crashes on load
Fixed by updating PlaneShift

So, driver not to blame.

Originally posted by DaveG
Choppy performance - Indirect rendering?
ATI Radeon 9600 with 64-bit drivers on Gentoo Linux
ATI Radeon 9800 AllInWonder Pro on Linux
1-8 FPS; \"no indirect rendering\" errors
Fix may be to compile kernel without DRI support (No replys; second card was not fixed by this)

Might be a CS issue.

Originally posted by DaveG
Can\'t launch the game
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB on Windows
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB on Ubuntu Hoary Linux
Crashes on load; error with cstgaimg.dll (dump posted)
Workaround by ignoring errors, and letting PlaneShift load in the background.  (?)

IIRC that bug was not related to drivers at all.

Originally posted by DaveG
CS - openGL - Radeon issues
ATI Radeon IGP 320M on Slackware Linux
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro on Windows
Max CPU on execution of \"_ZNI4csGraphics3D4OpenEv\"; 1 FPS
Possible faulty code listed.

Though, in another CS app, that same code works. It would have been more interesting if the reporter would have just checked which code actually maxes the cpu.
AryHann\'s issue was probably unrelated.

Originally posted by DaveG
PlaneShift freezing
ATI Radeon 9600 XT on Windows
Freezes after 10-45 minutes
No replies.

May be driver, may be something completely different.

Originally posted by DaveG
A crash right in the beginning
ATI Radeon 9000 64MB on Windows
Crashes when character turns; error with atioglxx.dll
No reply.

Well, at least we know Catalyst 4.12 can cause problems... on PS from Jan 2005, at least.

Originally posted by DaveG
Computer crashes
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB on Windows
Crashes after a few minutes
Possible fix is to force AGP2x instead of AGP4x.  (No reply.)

Outcome unknown. May be driver, may be something completely different.

Originally posted by DaveG
Suse Linux 9 and ATI do this before installing
ATI Radeon 8500+ on SuSE Linux
2 drivers listed to fix various problems.
Recommends running ldconfig as root after installing to refresh the dynamic linker cache.

Sounds more like system configuration issues being discussed.

Originally posted by DaveG
gfx ati radeon mobility M6 LY : no 3d
ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY on Linux
\"no graphic renderer\" error; driconf doesn\'t work; \"libGL is too old\" error
No reply.

Sounds like a system configuration issue.

Originally posted by DaveG
Ati Radeon 9550 256MB
Thinking of getting an ATI card
Seems like he might have ended up with an nVIDIA card.  (No reply.)

Not even a PS problem here.

Originally posted by DaveG
[Tips]How to not crash in CB and others
ATI Radeon 9600 XT
Crashes with Vertex Buffer Object on
Solution:  Don\'t turn it on

Catalyst 4.12, hardly \"recent\" by now.


So? Of all those problems, I have to look hard to find one that indicates that generally not using the latest drivers is good.
Problems can have many reasons - the driver is just one facet of many, many, many.

IMO \"The most recent official Radeon drivers for Windows do not work with PlaneShift. \" is as such not right. Using Omega drivers is one way to attempt to fix issues, but you make it sound like they would be the end to all problems PS users with (coincidentally) ATI graphic cards have.

[AryHann]

Personally, I have a mobility radeon 9700 on my laptop and the already known radeon 9600 pro on a desktop.
The problem of the second was related to the fact that I was having troubles thanks to winXP to update the driver - original ATI one. Once I did that, everything went fine.

I haven\'t had problems with my laptop, plus as you might know I have been developing something on PS engine for my thesis. Well, I cannot believe that ATI is allergic just to PS since I have installed my project on several computers (with ATI or Nvidia cards) and after updating the drivers everything was working smoothly and I have never encountered any visual problem with my computer.

Just recently I have been playing PS a bit for testing and some strange effect came up, but I think it is more PS related - darkness bug? - or even CS rather than ATI.
 problem.

[Leeloo]

For the Linux users with R200-based cards (including R250, R280, Rv280), i.e. Radeon 9250 and below, try the XFree / X.org drivers instead of the ATI ones.

I\'m running with the X.org drivers on my 9250, and don\'t have any driver/card-related problems at all in PS.

Unfortunately Radeon 9500/9700/9800/X* owners are stuck with ATI drivers.

[DaveG]

The \"newest don\'t work with Windows\" line (which I told Moogie to change because I felt it was too specific... ) came about because my personal problems started on update to the most recent version of the official drivers, at the same time that I heard others mentioning the same thing.    After a barrage of ATI == death threads with a drivers replacement fixing them, I asked for a sticky.  (the list btw, was just made when I made that reply;  just a search for \"radeon\" really)  The mobility ones don\'t work at all, the others have been really sporadic.  I don\'t claim to know anything more than this.

You can also do a search for the various \"darkness bugs\", because as AryHann said ATI may or may not get them more.

[DaveG]

Click here

[Pip]

I just bought a new laptop and found the graphics all dark and some colours in negative. Being unfamiliar with PC, because I am primarily a Mac user, I had a look to see if anyone had the same problem.

Straight away I saw this thread and downloaded the Omega drivers. They made it worse!!

So I scrapped those and downloaded the latest official ATI Radeon drivers (mobility) and everything is now working perfectly.

So I think this thread is very misleading and Moogie should edit it to say \"if you have tried the latest drivers for ATI Radeon cards and find they don\'t work you can try the Omega drivers. (No guarantees)\"

[r.guppy]

I must apologise for Pip i misled her.
 I downloaded this to fix her problem.
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293
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