The Guild Knights

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Valbrandr
I looked back over each post I had here.  Each one was in line or atleast I feel each was.

You think your posts are \"in line\".  Others obviously disagree.

Originally posted by Valbrandr
Edit if you hate Sindar that much then it would be a good thing not to be in the same guild as him/her.  

Bravo, you\'ve entered genius territory on that one! :-D I left Guild Knights so that I wouldn\'t be in the same guild as Sindar.  Sindar has left the Guild Knights to join the Dragon Council, and I have rejoined the Guild Knights.  My sympathy to the Dragon Council.




Edit:  I move that after the update to the guild info is made, which includes a more in depth history and a refined set of rules (if sir and antra decided they need refining), once that I happens I vote that we delete this thread and start a new one.  All the bickering and melodrama in this thread is damned ugly.

[Zaknefein]

Yes, I agree with Shal on that last part.

[Ecolem]

Originally posted by zanzibar

Originally posted by Ashamn
If you dont have arguments shut up, please. It\'s better then do 3 posts saying the same stuff.

You don\'t understand.  I\'ve been answering the same questions over and over again.  I\'ve been countering the same false accusations over and over again.  Since these people will never grow up, since these people will never change their minds about anything, there\'s no point in talking to them anymore.

No, i think Ashmans right. If someone askes the same question you say \'over and over\' then ignore them.

Think we should calm things down here. No more flameing. Its a guild post so talk about the guild. If you hav\'nt got anything nice to say then dont say it at all.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Ecolem

Originally posted by zanzibar

Originally posted by Ashamn
If you dont have arguments shut up, please. It\'s better then do 3 posts saying the same stuff.

You don\'t understand.  I\'ve been answering the same questions over and over again.  I\'ve been countering the same false accusations over and over again.  Since these people will never grow up, since these people will never change their minds about anything, there\'s no point in talking to them anymore.

No, i think Ashmans right. If someone askes the same question you say \'over and over\' then ignore them.

Think we should calm things down here. No more flameing. Its a guild post so talk about the guild. If you hav\'nt got anything nice to say then dont say it at all.

I know what you\'re saying but you don\'t need to say it.  If someone comes in here and starts making a bunch of wild accusations against guild members, a negative response can and should be expected.  We don\'t need non guild members coming into our thread to preach to us; there are already mature members of the guild who are in command and are doing the best they can to take care of things.  They make mistakes, say or do the wrong thing, but they should be given the chance.

[Neryam]

Okay.. thanks Ecolem Yes please do not stereotype our entire guild because of 1 or two rude players, as we now have over 110 members and at least 50 active, and it is difficult to keep track of guilds that big. What we need to be able to do is high rankers in the guild would be able to access  chat logs of every Guild Knight member.

Oh and Ecolem, I think there is only 1 person in our entire guild that hits over 400, Sirunie, although mabye shal does I\'m not sure. And Darkmoon hits for 700

Yeah.. we mabye should restart a new thread.. And if you have any complaints about some rude guild knights player, PLEASE don\'t bicker and complain about it here, TELL US THE NAMES or at lease just PM us because what you\'re doing now is not going to help anything.

[zanzibar]

I only hit for 150.

[Valbrandr]

Originally posted by Neryam
Okay.. thanks Ecolem Yes please do not stereotype our entire guild because of 1 or two rude players, as we now have over 110 members and at least 50 active, and it is difficult to keep track of guilds that big. What we need to be able to do is high rankers in the guild would be able to access  chat logs of every Guild Knight member.

We are not a mass-recruiting guild, we are a guild that helps newblets and makes them great. Already we have at least 5 members that were only brand new players a few weeks ago who are now great warriors!

I thought you guys were not a mass recruiting guild?  How long has your guild been around?  And that is one of the major negatives is that if you have so many people that even the leader or anyone for that matter has any idea what people could be doing.  Not to mention that the larger your guild gets, the less structure/order you have in your ranks.

[Neryam]

Yes I know.. thats why I said What we need to be able to do is high rankers in the guild would be able to access chat logs of every Guild Knight member. And mabye groups as well as ranks and as many as we want. Cause Guilds are just going to get bigger as more people start playing.

As for the number of people, Our guild was made right after the wipe. We always interview people, and actually now only me and Sirunie and Arch Knights can invite.
Remember, one of the main philosophies in the first post says that we help anybody and everybody, and that means we do not exclude ANYONE if they wish to join and are pure of heart.

[Zaknefein]

And I may invite a lot of people into the guild, but they are all usually active and I have recieved no complaints about them...

[Tarel]

Shalmaneser, you\'re hunting days are over at last at
the Guild Knights.

Heard from Sirunie that you are kicked out of Guild
Knights at last, because of many complaints
against you.

And btw Sindar is a nice member.
I have been playing with him for several months now.
I can\'t say a bad thing about him.
Not like you, you are very worse known in PS.

Sindar is my apprentice and doing good works for the
Dragon Council.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by gladiator76
Shalmaneser, you\'re hunting days are over at last at
the Guild Knights.

Heard from Sirunie that you are kicked out of Guild
Knights at last, because of many complaints
against you.

And btw Sindar is a nice member.
I have been playing with him for several months now.
I can\'t say a bad thing about him.
Not like you, you are very worse known in PS.

Sindar is my apprentice and doing good works for the
Dragon Council.

The Dragon Council is a collection of individuals who talk about doing good but only care about power.  When their higher members were causing havock for new players, their leaders did nothing.  DC members have been rude to me consistently and often.  I think Sindar has found a good home with you; I\'ve had a very bad experience with him, and I know that at least one other person had a similar quarrel.

I have a bad reputation among the regulars, and a good reputation among many of the new players.  Why is that?  Because in the beggining, I didn\'t show \"respect\" to the regulars.  Because I have an abrasive personality, and people judge me too quickly because of it.  Because I am too quick to defend myself when I believe a lie is being told.  But hey, you don\'t have to listen to me because I\'m just a lowly power leveller.  Because as you know, role players are worried about forming reputations, participating in guilds, etcetera.

[Rioth]

Originally posted by zanzibar
The Dragon Council is a collection of individuals who talk about doing good but only care about power.

Oh, really ? Never find myself saying anything about doing good. We are neutral, that\'s all.

Originally posted by zanzibar
When their higher members were causing havock for new players, their leaders did nothing.

Well, would you consider explaining what you are talking about ? Because as far as I know, and as far as I\'m concerned, such a thing never happened in my guild, and I would have never let such a thing happen.

Originally posted by zanzibar
DC members have been rude to me consistently and often.

Now this is getting interesting... Maybe you\'ll tell us at last what exactly you are reproaching us ?

[Neryam]

Heh.. but Sindar has been rude to you often Zanzibar? Ever considered that ~perhaps~ it was because you were extremely rude to him?
I think it started when you stole the fifty axe, then it degraded to a point where we did a duel practice session, Sindar was there, first words out of your mouth: \"Ewww not sindar\" :rolleyes:

And you have a bad reputation because you are so consistently stubborn when you are wrong, you insult everyone all the time when they chatise you for doing something unethical..
Not that youre always wrong, not at all, but you always say youre right and are arrogant and insulting.. Remember those famous two posts in a row: \"You think?\" \"You think?\"

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Rioth
Oh, really ? Never find myself saying anything about doing good. We are neutral, that\'s all.

Perhaps you should remind your members of that!  Whenever I ask, they say their alligned with good.

Originally posted by Rioth
Well, would you consider explaining what you are talking about ? Because as far as I know, and as far as I\'m concerned, such a thing never happened in my guild, and I would have never let such a thing happen.

My point exactly!

Originally posted by Neryam
Heh.. but Sindar has been rude to you often Zanzibar? Ever considered that ~perhaps~ it was because you were extremely rude to him?

The first time I ever remember speaking to him was when he started chatting to me to make fun of my knives and daggers level.  When I told him I didn\'t care, he started freaking out on me to the point where I had to ignore him.  Does that answer your question?


As far as being stubborn, I\'m not stubborn when I\'m wrong.  I\'m stubborn when I think I\'m right.  There\'s a difference.

As far as the \"you think?\" bit, that\'s just desperate reaching on your part.  When I said that, it was in response to questions which were being asked over and over again despite being answered, and it was in response to accusations which were being made over and over again despite being disproven or at the least addressed.

[Tarel]

Originally posted by zanzibar

Originally posted by Rioth
Oh, really ? Never find myself saying anything about doing good. We are neutral, that\'s all.

Perhaps you should remind your members of that!  Whenever I ask, they say their alligned with good.

Originally posted by Rioth
Well, would you consider explaining what you are talking about ? Because as far as I know, and as far as I\'m concerned, such a thing never happened in my guild, and I would have never let such a thing happen.

My point exactly!

Originally posted by Neryam
Heh.. but Sindar has been rude to you often Zanzibar? Ever considered that ~perhaps~ it was because you were extremely rude to him?

The first time I ever remember speaking to him was when he started chatting to me to make fun of my knives and daggers level.  When I told him I didn\'t care, he started freaking out on me to the point where I had to ignore him.  Does that answer your question?


As far as being stubborn, I\'m not stubborn when I\'m wrong.  I\'m stubborn when I think I\'m right.  There\'s a difference.

As far as the \"you think?\" bit, that\'s just desperate reaching on your part.  When I said that, it was in response to questions which were being asked over and over again despite being answered, and it was in response to accusations which were being made over and over again despite being disproven or at the least addressed.

Dragon Council is Lawfully Neutral.
You should have known, if you looked in Kada El\'s.

This means we are not Good neither Evil.
We help newbies around the Game, instead of harrasing
and challenging them.
We show new players around the game and learn them the basics of PS.
We ask nothing in return from them.
Some join the Dc later and some join other Guilds.

And no high ranked members were causing havock for
new players.
While Rioth was on vacation, Meriner and me were
leading the Dragon Council.
We don\'t tolerate any member of DC to cause havock
for any new player ingame.
And never a player ingame told about it to us.
Just as GK, we kick that player out of DC after a warning.

We want fair play in Planeshift and report all players
to Gm, that are not playing fair.
Like past week i reported 2 players for abusing
arrow-bug and using attack-bug on NPC.
Both got red-tagged by GM, after GM saw it.
GM\'s use 2 warnings system.
1st is official warning and 2nd is kicked from PS.

And you claim not to be a powerleveler.
I saw you do 500+ damage a hit.
No member of DC can hit that high, with the weapons we have.
And when we fight in a group, we dont steal weapons,
but loot them in turns.
It doesn\'t mather what kind of weapon it is.