Originally posted by Platyna
And dragons likes water too. Dragons live on air, earth, water and fire. 
And yes, dragons are mythical reptile-like creatures, so there are dragons,
they are just named differently. 
This is
entirely your preferred dragon concept. One of many, as I have pointed out.
Originally posted by Malloc
You can\'t open your debate on how undragon like Klyros are, with \"There are so many different concepts of \"dragon\" out there\". That just supports the argument that they share a likeness with one of the many visions of dragons.
That was, in fact, my intent: I was trying to show that since there is so much that is called \"dragon\" it is almost impossible to have something that has either wings or is reptile/fish-like
not to some small extent resemble one or more of them. Therefore, as has been stated, it must first be agreed upon what is a dragon to us and what is not. I have not commented on the dragon concept that I use because it isn\'t of real importance to the discussion.
Except for these new-age \"draconian\" concept, the baseline of \"dragon\" is, AFAICS, that it\'s
huge. Klyros clearly aren\'t, so they\'re not dragons. Also except the draconian concept dragons aren\'t humanoid, so this is another difference. The rest would have to be dealt with on a case by case basis per concept, which would become a disproportional book AFAICS.
Originally posted by Malloc
The mention of gargoyles is interesting, since they bear almost no similarities to dragons at all. They\'re not reptilian, which is a defining feature of most all dragons. Some may or may not have wings, and where grotesque in nature. They were horrible looking waterspouts, some thought warded away evil. The name itself comes from gargouille, which means throat. Even when used in a broader fashion, the gargoyle is still usually a stone construct.
I was going solely by the appearance, not their composition or use as decoration. A gargoyle is AFAIK also a mythical creature of sorts, but whether that developed before or after their use as decorative waterspouts I don\'t know. Also, I\'m sure there are gargoyles that are made reptile-like, and my impression of them was that they are either batlike (without fur usually) or reptilian.
Anyway, as for the legends and myths ingame, and in fact general background: They sure are lacking. However, if we as players start creating our own, things will likely move not only into incompatibly different directions, but also deviate from what may or may not be planned or in the works already. However, whatevber we do, we should IMO avoid porting the RL myths to PS, because this is certain to be
not what will get implemented, for it is not even slightly original. Thusly, \"dragons\", in whatever way, should be avoided, in both name and creature.
I would recommend starting some myths on some of the things that have been posted in the fanart section instead. I remember the idea of the \"renegade orbs\", which, given a proper name, would make for good starting points. Also, there have been several monstrous creatures IIRC, which would also work well.
