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Elections in Germany - Be sure not to miss them!
« on: September 17, 2005, 09:52:58 pm »
If you are from Germany:

Go to your election office! Hand out your votes! It is necessary to tell your opinion! Especially if you do not want the extremistic parties to gather percents or even seats in the parliament.
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If you are not from Germany:

Think about the possible impact a possible change (or not) in the german government may have to your country. Don\'t miss the results. (Live on CNN, if you can receive it).

And what it makes even more interresting: Because one electoral district (Dresden 1) will have to vote later than the rest of the country (because of the death of one candidate), their votes might have a tremendous influence on the result. So if their \"advantage\" of knowing the partly result may be considered \"unfair\", the whole election may have to be repeated...

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 12:37:20 pm »
Werden Sie warum wir uns sorgen um deutsche Wahlen, wenn die meisten von uns unser eigenes in unserer L?nder ?brigens ich haben, denke nicht, dass es andere Deutsch auf diesen Foren gibt (so weit wie ich kenne).
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2005, 03:13:06 pm »
Verideon, please dont speak german if you are not sure what you are doing... this seems google-translated.

And yes there are other german speaking persons on this forum even if they are not from germany (I myself am from austria)

And no I dont really care about the elections in germany, I dont even give the darn about theelections in austria (most of all because I aint even allowed to vote)
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2005, 04:58:01 pm »
Da konnte ich kein Wort verstehen when verideon deutsch spricht...

Ich denke, dass es w?re sch?n, when Angelika Merkel diese Wahlen gewinnt. Es w?re die erste Frau, die diese Job haben wurde... Aber wird es wirklich vershieden sein ? Ich bin der Meinung, dass das Volk keine verschiedene Politik sehen wurde...

So Schr?der oder Merkel? Recht oder Recht?
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2005, 05:32:00 pm »
Darn foreigners.... can\'t even speak a proper language like english :P How barbaric.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2005, 06:24:36 pm »
Well Verideons German is very broken, very very broken. The last line ((so weit wie ich kenne)) it seems to be google translation for As far as I know ...

fken I am suprised, weren\'t you in contact with all those french guys, or was this just a mistake from my side.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2005, 10:56:53 pm »
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Originally posted by Cyl
Well Verideons German is very broken, very very broken. The last line ((so weit wie ich kenne)) it seems to be google translation for As far as I know ...

fken I am suprised, weren\'t you in contact with all those french guys, or was this just a mistake from my side.


He knows french, I guess he knows german too. :)
I know somone who can speak 8 languages fluently, all I know if english and armenian.

Oh and, ya, elections don\'t change much. People always think the president changes everything, but he doesn\'t.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2005, 11:23:16 pm »
@Cyl: Nice to listen my German isnt as bad as i imagine... I am understandable and moreover i am even able to make Cyl think I am german (my avatar saying i am from France)... I am french but i learnt German... sometimes its nice to know the languages of our two best ennemy countries (Germany and Great Britain)

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 08:41:32 am »
Wie werde ich Sie herausfordern. Ich spreche Deutsch, habe ich es gelesen, lerne ich es in h?herem Deutsch!, wie ich die einzige Person bin, aus von wie 200 Leute um wo ich lebe das h?heres Deutsch sprechen kann. NEIN ich nicht blutig ?bersetzt es durch google oder Yahoo. und ich kenne Franz?sisch (lerne gut ich nicht wirklich es mehr aber ich noch, es!). und ja das Deutsch von Verideon sehr ist gebrochen zu kennen, tats?chlich Sie versuchen, /lernend vier differant Sprachen und zu kennen, ist dann f?hig, sie alle zu ?bersetzen. Ich wei?, was ich mache, aber als ich gesagt habe, dass hart wenn Ihre Lernen vier Sprachen.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2005, 10:39:08 pm »
This topic was not meant to talk about your language skills. It was rather made to talk about the possible effects in political and economical topics. But they don\'t seem to interrest many members here...

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 11:29:48 am »
Who cares, how bad can it be? There\'s no way that you guys are going to get \"another Bush\" in charge, the last one you had was removed from power 60 years ago, and everyone learned from the mistake.

Just too bad that the US is unable to learn from other peoples mistakes, and have to repeat them themselves.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2005, 06:13:40 pm »
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Who cares, how bad can it be? There\'s no way that you guys are going to get \"another Bush\" in charge, the last one you had was removed from power 60 years ago, and everyone learned from the mistake.

not everyone not everythings... I hope there would not be another WW because I really dont care about society : next WW I let c*nt fighting alone against each others. I have no country and i dont need to fight for  the others freedom.

Look at whats happened during WW1 and WW2. how many people died for their government ?

The first thing to learn from the WWs is that nationalism drive humanity to a wall. Who understand that after the WW1 ? Surely not the French because thanks to allies behaviour, German voted for Hitler and for his policy. At the end of the WW2 Truman ordered to test the Nuclear bomb on Japan.in the 60\'s, France waged a war against the Algerians who fighted for their freedom, GB didnt want to let India taking its independancy, America waged a lot of pseudo war in poor countries and World created the cold war just after the WW2.

Moreover America helped a lot of extremists president to government : it was a way to fight against Communism... But it wasnt only the America responsability in my mind : a lot of countries followed USA policy...

Dont forget that a lot of people in France discovered their courage just after realizing the Nazis were losting the war... Dont forget that a lot of people in France and even elsewhere earn money by collaborate with Nazis.

And moreover, people never understood that having good behaviours toward each others is the best way to protect ourselves from evily government...

What would have happened if Hitler was recognized as a good artist ? I saw some pictures of his art : he was skilled ! If people didnt behave like they behave, would he have all the violence he had in his head ?

The only thing people think they have understood from WW2 is that there are two side : the good and the evil. In their mind Hitler is born with an evil print and it explains why the WW2 happened... only a child can believe that in my mind !

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2005, 07:24:08 pm »
Indeed, there are still people who unfortunately think we better shall stay alone - e.g. move out all foreigners to solve unimployment. Nonsense, in my opinion: The main reason are not too many foreigners, but too few and (for the companies) too expensive job offers.

Imagine: I am a graduated computer scientist. And still jobless. On one hand, because I specialized in rather rare topics, unfortunately; on the other hand, because employers expect an employee being able to work >100% of the usual time in enough tasks for a whole team, for the salary of a half-day worker. When I finished my study, I could expect ~2000 EUR/month, now I would be glad to earn ~1000 EUR (netto) if I just had a job at all.

So you don\'t need to wonder why there is so much confusion. Do we need more restrictions on the already poor employees to rescue our national budget? Shall we elect a social party, or an economically strong one?

At the moment, both of the strongest parties (Christian Democratic Union, and Social-democratic Party of Germany) each have only ~35%. None of them can win on its own. The other 3 main \"second important\" parties (The Greens, the \"Lefts\"/Party of Democratic Socialism, and Free Democratic Party) each have almost 10%. So each of the big parties would need two coalition partners at once. Unfortunately, FDP and Greens are very different; and no one ever wants to get in touch with the PDS (in irrational fear of another GDR, IMHO). The last possible one would be a \"Great Coalition\" - but no party wants to give up on presenting their chancellor candidate.

Just the least thing we can stand is irritation, confusion,     indecisiveness. And as long as we lack of decisions, all our trading partners worldwide may get carefull as well. They will be worried about the future of our export-oriented economy, and that makes it even harder to satisfy the european stability pact.

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2005, 08:35:34 pm »
You arent forced to translate the name of your parties (is it the correct english word ? what i call party is called democrate/conservative in the usa)

Germany has some unemployement troubles today. My father works in Germany but today he hasnt all the work he had before... In fact he work for himself : people pay him to install networks. The biggest german companies wanted (and surely still want) him to work for them : Mercedes, AMG, Porsche, KK, TUV, a famous german soup brand i forgot its name, and so one... and sometimes said they wanted only him for the job... I think he must be proud of that because its really what people can call \"be recognized in his job\". In fact, he worked very often more than 100hours a week, working the night etc... He always said me he only work normaly : he everytime finish his work and work properly. The most of the time, when i see the other network workers I wonder how they could have been paid for a so ugly job : hanged cables, holes in fireproof wall, 2weeks late, and stealing (off course!) : i heared some workers stealed for 1 or 3 Milliions Deustche mark of ram in a row (500,000? almost 600,000$).

Noone told me what is the real situation for the one of my next degrees.  I heard about beeing paid 30,000 35,000/ month but really i dunno if every enginneer earn that. are they all employed at least ? no idea... Because during our good studies, people around keep on saying how nice will be our future but i doubt... I even wonder if they really know what they are talking about ? Or maybe are they simply repeating what other people said before and what these people heard before... etc.

The main problem today are the benefits of the companies and their immorality : the \"company\" would like to earn more money so no need to be moral to do that and firing people isnt a bad thing as long as you can earn something by firing them.