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Scientific research about magic
« on: October 02, 2005, 06:59:46 pm »
According to my research during the last month, I found a very strange hybrid organic/silicant mineralic molecule; these base components - carbon and silicon - allows this molecule to exist in \"common organic\" as well as \"silicant\" metabolism, such as blood or the corresponding liquid-crystal fluid of Kran.

It appears to be a kind of catalysator, useful to concentrate the energy required for casting a spell, made of several distinct components from natural minerals. There are possible combinations of 7 trace elements and 6 nonmetals, a few more probable than others:


Catyliasis

Catyliasis is unstable; it definitely cannot exist outside a living body. Only the powers of life are able to keep this kind of single molecule in a metastable state. But during its existence, it is able to collect single component combinations from their body. Therefore, the so called \"Mana\" is congruent to the concentration of Catyliasis in ones body.

The commonly used \"Potion of Mana\" does not contain Catyliasis. Instead, it contains the required components, like organic and silicate acids and different minerals. Only a living body is able to build Catyliasis out of those components, and its final concentration only depends on the mental strength, not the amount of potion someone drinks.

Different manners change the probability of the concentration of different components being concentrated inside each Catyliasis molecule. It appeared to me that in general, good manners concentrate rather lightweighted combinations, evil manners instead rather heavyweighted combinations of trace element and nonmetal.

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2005, 10:43:40 pm »
Phinehas is so much gonna love you for that...
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2005, 11:21:58 pm »
Great work Gag! You should gift us with more of this :D.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2005, 11:23:25 pm by Sangwa »
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2005, 12:22:01 am »
Uh oh ... I\'m afraid a post like this is going to have the scientist in me take over and overanalyse things.


scientific approach at magic made ... sensory input ignore ... ignore command denied ... system overwrite ... scientist parameters loading ... conversion complete.

If I may ask some more questions, not as criticism but merely to point out some possible areas for further research.

How do glyphs fit into this model?
Can you explain why Kran don\'t seem to be affected by magic much based on these Catyliasis?
Can you confirm or deny the truth about one or more of the three magic theories currently accepted in Yliakum?

Then of course the more obvious questions ...

How exactly can these molecules create spell effects?
How does the whole learning/improvement process work?
Is there any scientific way we could improve our magical abilities more effectively?

And lastly a very evil question I just have to ask :P

How can you know about the existance of elements so small as molecules and with what equipment available in Yliakum can you determine their structu ...

Supressing scientist parameters ... reconverting to roleplaying parameters ... reconversion done.

Sorry about that .. great work but a \'dangerous\' path to take. I wish you good luck with your endeavors though :)
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2005, 02:47:30 am »
>>Can you confirm or deny the truth about one or more of the three magic theories currently accepted in Yliakum?
really which ones are they? i think i\'ve seen one of them but i can\'t say for certain.

>>Can you explain why Kran don\'t seem to be affected by magic much based on these Catyliasis?
the reason is fairly simple. through some may say it to be moderately contrived. part of the process is based loosely on the caster\'s own biological systems. since a kran\'s biology is so radically different from the other races the metabolic resonence is weak to non-exsistant hence. while the effects maybe real the damage is highly dependant on that metaboloic resonence.

>>How does the whole learning/improvement process work?
Is there any scientific way we could improve our magical abilities more effectively?

>>How does the whole learning/improvement process work?
Is there any scientific way we could improve our magical abilities more effectively?
the catyliasis acts as a focusing point and interface for the energies of the crystal. through training one can become more attuned to the metabolic resonances. with greater attunement you can modify them for greater effectiveness.

>>How do glyphs fit into this model?
the glyphs allow for a standardize methodology of focusing and attunment of the metabolic resonacnes.

>>How exactly can these molecules create spell effects?
it\'s magic. science can\'t explain it all.  


but i could be just throwing out some techno-babble
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 04:39:22 am »
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And lastly a very evil question I just have to ask :P

How can you know about the existence of elements so small as molecules and with what equipment available in Yliakum can you determine their structure ...


The obvious answer here would be...

He used some powerful magic spell.

To me, this raises a different question: whether it is possible to use magic in order to observe the structure of magic itself, or if the use of the \"observation\" spell will itself affect the nature of the objects being observed.  My concern is that the magic required in order to make these observations would by necessity be so powerful that it\'s effects would \"bleed over\" and alter the structure of these molecules.  It could then be that the qualities that appear to be present in the molecules themselves actually only exist while the magic is being used to observe them.

Another question, which is not addressed by this announcement:  what is the role of the Crystal in all of this?  It is \"common knowledge\" that it is the energy of the Crystal that makes magic possible in Yliakum.  While this can in no way be considered \"scientific proof\", I think it is unwise to dismiss the influence of the Crystal entirely (at least in such a public forum).

I do not wish to dismiss the research entirely, but I do urge caution at this point.  Further research is needed to support these initial findings.

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2005, 09:52:58 am »
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>>Can you confirm or deny the truth about one or more of the three magic theories currently accepted in Yliakum?
really which ones are they? i think i\'ve seen one of them but i can\'t say for certain.

...

but i could be just throwing out some techno-babble


Well I meant Argan and its two counterparts of which I forgot the names with that.
Why I ask is because I know one of them says magic should remain inside the body and our scientist here told us these molecules could only exist inside ones body.

As for that last one ... more than likely :P
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2005, 10:54:19 pm »
those seem to be more schools of magic rather than theories of magic. i\'ll have to dig a bit more to be sure
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2005, 04:16:18 pm »
I don\'t think it\'s that the moulecules cannot exist outside a body, but that they decay rapidly, and magic training teaches you to expand the area in which you can extend stabilization to outside your body... don\'t ask me how: I don\'t know.

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