The Cult of Seperot

[Sangwa]

The Cult Of Seperot does abide by most of the conditions Zanzibar described.

The name \"Cult Of Seperot\" describes the egocentric nature of this cult. We tame the chaos within, the senseless havoc, the restless hunger. Not by depriving ourselves of it, but by finding ourselves in it. Thus satisfying the needs and desires of our members.
Seperot, has been chosen to lead us. His knowledge of himself as well as his power to pursue his own endeavours serve as guide lines to the rest of his followers.
Plus, the organization of the Cult of Seperot is effective; consequence for its simplicity and practicalness.
As you see there are in fact things that make this cult a cult. It is quite a bother to explain them though...

So, as the Shadowform Beholder of the Inquisition, I deem all heathens to be potential, if not factual, Cakelesses - people who are void of self respect and as such not entitled to their souls.
This should further emphatize our lack of obligation towards the education and perservation of the heathens. It should also accentuate the need and urgency of becoming converted.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Sangwa
The Cult Of Seperot does abide by most of the conditions Zanzibar described.

The name \"Cult Of Seperot\" describes the egocentric nature of this cult. We tame the chaos within, the senseless havoc, the restless hunger. Not by depriving ourselves of it, but by finding ourselves in it. Thus satisfying the needs and desires of our members.
Seperot, has been chosen to lead us. His knowledge of himself as well as his power to pursue his own endeavours serve as guide lines to the rest of his followers.
Plus, the organization of the Cult of Seperot is effective; consequence for its simplicity and practicalness.
As you see there are in fact things that make this cult a cult. It is quite a bother to explain them though...

Yes, yes... apparently the theory behind CoS shows that indeed it is a cult. But from what I\'ve seen the problem lies in the fact that this theory has no connection to the actual reality :P
Or in other words, I\'ll go as far as to say most of its members have no idea about the ideology and joined mostly by either not throwing away the badge Seperot randomly gave them, or by being the loon type and thinking \"hey, why not?\", as well as \"oooo nice ranks!\".

So to sum it up, CoS is a cult in theory, but in reality it is a bunch of people randomly put together.

[Shadeslayer]

Senseless chaos, hunger for more, havoc everywhere...doensn\'t anyone ever get bored with these traits?...well I don\'t bother
Draklar has some logic though...why have such names to be given by people...there is no structure to it...people may just come because of the interesting titles they get for joining

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Shadeslayer
Senseless chaos, hunger for more, havoc everywhere...doensn\'t anyone ever get bored with these traits?...well I don\'t bother
Draklar has some logic though...why have such names to be given by people...there is no structure to it...people may just come because of the interesting titles they get for joining

First, people \'do\' chaos in different ways.

Secondly, Seperot may have plans and structures he\'s not showing off.

[seperot]

mmm?

no no draklars right were just a random assortion of people who all just wonder around aimlessly with badges and cake fetishs. no meglomaina and world domiantion have no place nor has commen interest goals or anything else

so all you peace loving people are just as free to join our cult that is said to be not a cult although it has cult in the title that should mean that it is a cult however by apperance is not a cult therefor is not a cult but by my hand i say it is a cult therefor it is a cult

[Draklar]

Originally posted by seperot
no no draklars right were just a random assortion of people who all just wonder around aimlessly with badges and cake fetishs. no meglomaina and world domiantion have no place nor has commen interest goals or anything else :)

See? I was right. Another case solved by Draklar \\o/

[zorbels]

O_o <--- Mmmm, cake what flavor?

/me perks her ears with interest

[seperot]

Why Zorbels... every flavor you can think of...and then some. We even have bug flavored ones for lord bug and the 60x chocolate cake for the choc fanatics

*Seperot offers Zorbels a CoS badge*

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by Sangwa
The Cult Of Seperot does abide by most of the conditions Zanzibar described.

The name \"Cult Of Seperot\" describes the egocentric nature of this cult. We tame the chaos within, the senseless havoc, the restless hunger. Not by depriving ourselves of it, but by finding ourselves in it. Thus satisfying the needs and desires of our members.
Seperot, has been chosen to lead us. His knowledge of himself as well as his power to pursue his own endeavours serve as guide lines to the rest of his followers.
Plus, the organization of the Cult of Seperot is effective; consequence for its simplicity and practicalness.
As you see there are in fact things that make this cult a cult. It is quite a bother to explain them though...

Yes, yes... apparently the theory behind CoS shows that indeed it is a cult. But from what I\'ve seen the problem lies in the fact that this theory has no connection to the actual reality
Or in other words, I\'ll go as far as to say most of its members have no idea about the ideology and joined mostly by either not throwing away the badge Seperot randomly gave them, or by being the loon type and thinking \"hey, why not?\", as well as \"oooo nice ranks!\".

So to sum it up, CoS is a cult in theory, but in reality it is a bunch of people randomly put together.

The definition of cult status is an issue of structure and social processes, not ideology.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by zanzibar
The definition of cult status is an issue of structure and social processes, not ideology.

Do you realise by quoting Sangwa I tried to point out that I reply to his post?

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by zanzibar
The definition of cult status is an issue of structure and social processes, not ideology.

Do you realise by quoting Sangwa I tried to point out that I reply to his post?

Who cares?

[Draklar]

Ohhh, forgot to say. It appears to me that commuity of Planeshift as a whole is much more of a cult than this. The former at least has some praise threads ;)


And zanzibar, if you don\'t care about context in which I said something, by all means don\'t reply to my posts. It\'s annoying.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Draklar
Ohhh, forgot to say. It appears to me that commuity of Planeshift as a whole is much more of a cult than this. The former at least has some praise threads


And zanzibar, if you don\'t care about context in which I said something, by all means don\'t reply to my posts. It\'s annoying.

You\'re inadvertantly alluding to social interactionist theory which says that all social groups exhibit the same set of social processes.  By understanding the social processes, you can take that understanding and apply it to any social group under study, whether it be a cult, a biker gang, or an online community.

[Draklar]

If some theory shows same set of social processes in all groups, then automatically those groups can\'t be categorized using just that theory. That should be logical. It\'s like saying all players are sentinent beings, thus I am Seperot.
And make some relation to this group in any way, because I see no value of discussion over such theories if they aren\'t centered around the actual topic.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Draklar
If some theory shows same set of social processes in all groups, then automatically those groups can\'t be categorized using just that theory. That should be logical. It\'s like saying all players are sentinent beings, thus I am Seperot.
And make some relation to this group in any way, because I see no value of discussion over such theories if they aren\'t centered around the actual topic.

Your logic is really sketchy.  Social Interactionist theory is a theory for understanding social processes and the \"social group life\" of individuals in various groups.  It isn\'t about categorizing groups as one thing or another...

Since this is a role-playing game, and this forum is for the discussion of guilds and role playing, and this thread is for a guild which is role-playing a cult, I think a discussion on the sociology of cults is completely on topic.  I think that having some sort of intellectual background on the social definition of a cult and its behaviour can only add more colour and interest to the role-playing experience of member players.