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Eowyn

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Newbie & RP
« on: October 24, 2005, 06:10:36 am »
This seems like the right section to write this in; apologies if it\'s not.

So I\'m a newbie who joined up during the past week and so far all I\'ve done is kill some rats and steal their stuff ;) (I\'m getting to the point of killing *clackers* and taking their stuff too...) I was firmly convinced PlaneShift was just about hacking beasts, so imagine my surprise when I bumped into a small group of people actually *role*playing at some inn!

I investigated (sites, forums) and found out you guys actually strive to get some RP done in between hacking beasts ;) You\'ve tickled my curiosity. I\'m used to MUSHing (PS is my first ever MMORPG) and the lack of RP was beginning to make me bored.

However, PS is not very newbie-friendly in that respect so I\'m asking for help. How does a newbie go about getting herself into some roleplaying situations? Somehow just accosting a random PC on the streets of Hydlaa doesn\'t seem like a very good idea...

Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2005, 06:21:00 am »
The best way is probably to hang around the Tavern alot.  That is probably the easiest place to find people role playing.  You will often find people there, usually with someone playing bartender.  Walk in, ask for a drink, and get to know a few people.

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 06:24:47 am »
Another roleplayer! A large welcome to PlaneShift from the community :)

Randomly trying to RP with another character may seem like an odd thing to try out, but you\'d be surprised at how many stories start out this way. Besides, there are always people looking for RP in Hydlaa\'s and Akkaio\'s taverns, sometimes in the Laanx temple, or other not-as-crowded-as-the-plaza locations. Definitely give people a prod, randomly or not - it can be a lot of fun. And don\'t worry about it all :)
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2005, 06:28:41 am »
*makes a note of the name. *

*shrugs*

not sure there is a good way. but there can be interesting ways.

and check the char infos. the ones who are keener to rp usually have modded the info to some degree from standard.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 06:42:54 am »
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Definitely give people a prod, randomly or not - it can be a lot of fun. And don\'t worry about it all :)


Eh, but I\'m shy! ;) Can\'t be shy in RP, I know  :rolleyes:  I\'ll definitely give it a try once the server is back up.

In the meantime, thanks everyone for welcomes and tips.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2005, 06:57:16 am »
Give it your best shot...
What can be bad in PS afterall...it\'s not RL
If you always talk with others, you can make more friends in PS...

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2005, 07:03:14 am »
to make life slightly more interesting, try to mix RPing and \"mashing beasts\", this is very fun in large groups of people around your strenth who go hunting for large beasts they can not take down individualy, i also found that joining a guild opens many RPing possibilitys, guild leaders often come up with RP quests to help raise your rank within the guild, i hope this helps your RPing experiance, as we need as many dedicated \"RPers\" as we can get

(gets tired of posting, and saying \"RP\" and decides to call it a night)

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Hi Eowyn.
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2005, 11:16:41 am »
I am also a newbie, having just played two sessions.

Personally I have found the game to be very newbie friendly.

Below is a link to thread where I placed a post earlier regarding newbie friendliness.

http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=18870&boardid=1&sid=c94fec8217c577ef1f77dc76a3b5dc5a&page=3

I have also found this post on guilds helpful, as there are a number of players guilds dedicated to helping newbies \"Janner\'s Way\" springs to mind,

http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=19509&boardid=18&styleid=3&sid=c94fec8217c577ef1f77dc76a3b5dc5a

Apart from that I am pleased to see that there are other newbies who like to \'role play\', or get into character so to speak.

Cheers.

« Last Edit: October 24, 2005, 11:18:00 am by Glendyl Aers »

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 02:49:55 am »
We have a newbie who wants to roleplay? *hugs all rping newbies* welcome to planeshift, it\'s practically build on rp, you\'ll see :)

I really would just suggest trying to keep in character, and introducing yourself to as many people as possible..  You\'ll probably find that a lot of us will actually respond in  character..

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 09:44:43 pm »
I have just joined today and must say that:
as for it being a newbie friendly game I can go
both ways one that.One I asked confused me
and when he could not unconfuse me he just
politely dismissed me onto my marry way.
This I must admitt was disapointing until I
stumbled down the road into the loading hallway
(it is green) and at the very end of it I had found
a Menki. I will not give hes name for he has not
givin permission but he was most helpful in aiding
my knowledgeon the ps world. I hope when this
sever is running again I will see him so that he can
finish showing me the way to Hydlaa and teach me
some good rping skills.

I thank my (Knight) and look forward to my adventures

Shayla
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2005, 07:34:37 pm »
Though I am a bit late on this thread, I\'d still like to welcome you as well. :)
RP isn\'t spread out evenly accross the PS world. The plaza, for example, contains almost no RP at all. Likewise, the places with MOB spawns attract the hack&slashers, not the RPers.
As has been said, the taverns are places where you\'ll more easily find RP. That RP is not always very deep, so don\'t be disappointed by that. It can mean that the people there aren\'t much into RP. It can, however, also mean that they are much into RP, only that their characters have nothing to do with each other besides having a drink in the same tavern, or even that they don\'t tell each other of their concerns, for a lot of reasons.

Still, hanging around them, observing or joining in the smalltalk, will likely give you an idea about who is serious about RP and who isn\'t. Also, if you try to interact with someone who RPs having a drink (not just standing there and chatting about RL things), you will almost be guaranteed a RP\'d response (might be negative if the char is in bad mood or somesuch :) ).
Another indication is people speaking in brackets, because brackets \"()\" are used to designate Out Of Character talk from In Character talk to avoid confusion. So people who use brackets when speaking not as their characters but as players at least respect the RPing etiquette.

Stating that you are a newbie seeking to RP will likely get you some more OOC explanations when characters don\'t react well to you. It might also give you some \"newbie protection\" so that players will warn you about impending IC doom (negative IC reactions). :)

Be sure to check out the \"story\" section of the mainsite so you know what world your character is living in so you can deduce what is possible and what isn\'t.

So... Welcome :)

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2005, 02:08:54 am »
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Another indication is people speaking in brackets, because brackets \"()\" are used to designate Out Of Character talk from In Character talk to avoid confusion. So people who use brackets when speaking not as their characters but as players at least respect the RPing etiquette.


Ah, this is something else that was confusing me and that I had meant to bring up and forgot: the apparent lack of an IC vs OOC channel for chatter (to which I\'m used and much addicted elsewhere).

English is not my native language, so please excuse me but I found your explanation just a teeny bit confusing. So you guys use brackets for OOC and normal chat for IC, is that it?

If so, how do you tell apart IC stuff from some random OOC chatter from another random player just around the corner? From experience?

Wishing to know so I won\'t blunder too often ;)

[Edit: Thanks, everyone, for the warm welcomes :)]
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2005, 02:49:21 am »
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So you guys use brackets for OOC and normal chat for IC, is that it?


*nods*

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If so, how do you tell apart IC stuff from some random OOC chatter from another random player just around the corner? From experience?

experience, and context. mostly cause in some cases people will use both. depending on the situation. i swap back and forth, not in the same setting mind.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2005, 02:34:49 pm »
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If so, how do you tell apart IC stuff from some random OOC chatter from another random player just around the corner? From experience?

As steuben has said, yes, IC is using normal chat, OOC is in brackets. Like this:
(I have lots of lag today.)
/me (is annoyed by the lag)

As for telling these apart: the only way to make sure that there won\'t ever be confusion is to consequently apply brackets. This is what I do. There are very rara circumstances where they are not required because the chat cannot be IC and no RPer could see it, like when you are talking to a GM in unreachable places. Still, I prefer to apply brackets even then.

You can with random chatter often, but nowhere near always, use experience to guess IC / OOC. Due to that problem, I tend to \"probe\" for RP before entering into meaningful RP with that person, or before applying non-trivial information from the chatter to my IC knowledge.

Unless that probing gives a clear indication of the other being RPer and IC, I assume they aren\'t and don\'t interact or react IC-ly with / to them (i.e., they don\'t exist in the game world).

Trivial things like greetings or questions about locations can usually be regarded as IC, since their OOC-ness won\'t be noticable. However, when the talk contains abbreviations (like \"u r cool\") or references to clearly OOC things like levels or other things outside the game world (bugs, computer trouble, etc.), it is obvious that the person is not IC and most likely doesn\'t even know about RP or the brackets which is a speciality of PS. The absence of a designated OOC channel is on purpose, because OOC isn\'t wanted in PS and thus anything like a OOC channel would be seen as an invitation or condoning of OOC.

As I said, it is dangerous to not consequently apply brackets or another OOC marker to OOC talk when others have reason to assume that you know about it and are an RPer. Likewise, it is just as dangerous to assume undesignated talk as being OOC unless it is clear not from the context, but from the way one speaks.

Context is unreliable, and the problems I had came from the fact that the context could have been both IC and OOC. In that case, I was IC while the other was undesignated OOC and the result was not pretty.

This is why it is so tremendously important to clearly and consequently designate all OOC chat so that everything undesignated can only be IC.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2005, 02:38:16 pm by Seytra »