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Moderation of Boards Here
« on: November 21, 2002, 06:31:35 am »
I\'m considering moderating the boards here more strictly and I want the community\'s opinion on it.

Right now, I really don\'t delete very much--just things I think are offensive or contrary to the formation of this community.

I\'m feeling though that maybe the inanity on our boards has reached new depths and it needs to be filtered more.  Please vote below and comment to make your opinion heard.

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2002, 07:10:16 am »
well i might be new her and everything but I think there should be nicely moderated and thing not involing the game should be taken out. but if they invole the game even inately they should, and the forum where you can basically talk about anything really shouldn\'t be moderated too much



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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2002, 01:15:09 pm »
I think my opinion is pretty well known already. Some inanity can be fun but there are a few topics here that I certainly feel have gotten out of hand.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2002, 02:12:07 pm »
I agree, yet I would be wary about giving mods too much power.  I used to play a MUD called WOTMUD (http://www.wotmud.org) which was great for a bit, but then the admins started getting \"stricter\" on the boards, deleting many threads that criticized the behavior of an immortal or high-ranking mortal (Even when, as usually the case, it was justified).  It was sad to see that game also go down the drain.

But yes, idiotic posts could be deleted up to a point.  Could someone post a link to an example?
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2002, 05:07:50 pm »
I\'ve been on the boards awhile and I feel you do a perfect job...Why and the world do you need to be stricter? Well you already delete most my posts anyway so, what the hell  :P
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2002, 05:07:52 pm »
Just to be clear, I am not contemplating deleting posts which are critical of Planeshift or of me or whatever.  Those are clearly valid uses of this message board.

Examples of candidate posts/threads for deletion are:

http://www.planeshift3d.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=1977&boardid=13&styleid=1

http://www.planeshift3d.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=2010&boardid=1&styleid=1&page=1#10

or

http://www.planeshift3d.com/forum/thread.php?boardid=11&styleid=1&threadid=1951  at the bottom.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2002, 05:33:19 pm »
Well, we asked for a Off-Topic Forum to talk about whatever and flame people and stuff, we asked many times, but I don\'t believe we have one.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2002, 05:46:28 pm »
I think that stricter moderation here would do no harm at all. Seeing the threads you linked to Veng, it seems that it would be a good thing - most of what is written there has no value, after all this forum was set up to aid in the development process and to let us all have our say. Saying that, I do think some of the more chatty posts are useful and help build the community, I guess you\'ll just have to use your judgement on an individual basis.

You can undertstand though, because Atomic has been with us for so long, many threads have gone a bit off topic, but I\'m sure with Molecular on the horizon, much of the talk will revert back to specific PS issues. At the end of the day, I guess you should moderate the forum to get out of it what the developers want and the what the users need to get most out of PS. As long as you can cope with the extra hassles more moderation brings.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2002, 10:08:18 pm »
I think it would be good to be a little bit more strict, not very much though...every now and then let one slip that is not too far off-topic

But, if people want to have fun they should just go to Kada\'s boards, these are for planeshift and should stay about planeshift

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2002, 11:54:50 pm »
Venge, the first post you listed I agree on the other two I don\'t think need to be deleted but I don\'t think they need to stay either. Don\'t know if you wanted specific opinions or not but theres mine. :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2002, 12:24:39 am »
Hmm, tough one.

I, for one, don\'t mind off topic-posts, since that is simply part of a community. When you \'talk\' with each other like this, it\'s obvioust that sometimes you want to chat about something else besides PlaneShift itself.

I can understand that certain people don\'t like these off-topic posts. Thats why i asked for an off-topic forum on these boards. But that was rejected. ;(

I voted for \'delete snide remarks but leave chatty posts\' Because I don\'t like flaming but i think there\'s nothing wrong with common talk every now and then. If you don\'t like it, just don\'t read it :)
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2002, 12:41:12 am »
Very difficult issue, because whatever rules you try and standardise on there will always be someone who stretches them to their absolute limit. This then causes problems with those moderators who are either eager to flex their muscles or have a predeliction towards clumsy mass deletions, and it all sadly kind of tends to go downhill from there. On the web people are incredibly rude, graphic and flamey, mainly because it\'s so impersonal. I run a board with approx 5,000 new posts every day, and I\'ve found that the best approach when you start getting flamefests between people that won\'t back down is generally to drop them a mail rather than publicly deleting or locking threads (which usually prompts 5 new threads of \'my right to free speech\').

And Athelas, I don\'t know who you are or how long you played my mud, but sorry to see your comments. Believe me, running a board whilst keeping it vaguely civil which is populated by hardcore net gamers isn\'t easy =). Fyi, whilst you may have had your differences with an imm (I have no idea who), things have changed a bit, for example aennor quit (who was the most deletehappy imm) and we recorded a new high of 212 people online recently.

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afterthought - about an off-topic board, we tried that, it failed (People went overboard in it). When I got back from a holiday to find threads in the garbage board with posts mocking kids with Down\'s Syndrome, I simply deleted the board, and 2 months later I\'m still feeling the benefit.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2002, 01:15:57 am »
Well this forum does not have thousands of posts (yet, maybe), so moderating it isn\'t that hard (concidering time). And i don\'t see the difference between breaking rules in an onn-topic or off-topic board.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2002, 01:25:15 am »
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Well, we asked for a Off-Topic Forum to talk about whatever and flame people and stuff, we asked many times, but I don\'t believe we have one.


I personally don\'t like off-topic forums unless they have well-thought out rules and not just \"anything off topic\" because there might be some good discussions there, and there might be annoying posts such as \"do you like this or that?\"

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2002, 01:27:11 am »
Well the purpose of an Off-Topic forum is to keep such posts collected in one part of the forum. I think promoting the community in general will help promote the focused parts about the game as well.

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