I discovered something

[Hirato]

well i was experimentign with the latest version of wine.
well i executed the windwos planeshift client with wien under linux and it runs flawlessly even with sound (and sound is not even implemenetd in wine)
the version of wine i used is  20050725n. i ven tested you can communicate with others(though i did only chat and tell and group and guild is just a big tell) you can move you can watch animations(liek greet). just basically everythign you can in the windows client.
i hope you tajke attention to this whiel we wait for the official linux client. as this is an emulated one

get it here

[Bereror]

Just to make some things clear -- Wine Is Not an Emulator

Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix.

As a small example, when a Windows application (Planeshift for Windows) wants to open and read a file, it calls a Windows API function CreateFile(). There is no such function in Linux, so Wine translates it into an open() function call. No emulation, just translation of function calls.

Sound is fully supported in Wine, just DirectSound support is not very good.

Planeshift is an OSS project and uses other OSS libraries, like OpenGL for graphics and OpenAL for sound and only basic system calls require Windows API. If the Linux version wouldn\'t be available, I guess Planeshift could be called \"Designed for Wine\"  

[Hirato]

well wine uses absolutely no windows code so it is only somehwta an emulator. i;\'m just curious in ym linux start menu its in a section called emulators.
when i last checked the soudn system threw an insult at me \"write me\"
btw it just moved onto BETA a while ago.
oh a little joke where does alpha and beta come from
















A= alphabeta means alphabet in greek

[Bereror]

Originally posted by Hirato
well wine uses absolutely no windows code so it is only somehwta an emulator.

Wine developers do not like the word emulation probably due to the following definition:

Emulation
(Computers) the imitation of the actions of a computer system or component, especially a processor, by means of a computer program, with the goal of predicting the behavior and performance characteristics of that system without actually manufacturing it.

I would say that Wine implements Windows API functions using absolutely no windows code . Like both Intel and AMD processors implement x86 instructions. AMD does not emulate them.

[hook]

Originally posted by Hirato
btw it just moved onto BETA a while ago.

Finally! It was about time.

oh a little joke where does alpha and beta come from

A= alphabeta means alphabet in greek

Erm ...

actually the word \"alphabeta\" comes from the first two letters in the greek alphabet - Alpha and Beta

...also the saying that something is the A and O of something (meaning it\'s all - the beginning and the end of it) comes from the greek alphabet as well - Alpha being the first letter in the greek alphabet and Omega being the last.

[Hirato]

i just updated my version of wine and it says its a ms windows emulator. (its was about 50MB)

and hook alpha and beta are the first two letters of the greek alphabet. strangely they don\'t have a C. sine they don\'t have a C in the alphabet in greek. it can\'t be be ABC so its just AB which is alphabeta which means alphabet.

[Karosh_Steinkatz]

I ran the MB windows client with wine almost 2 years ago. So what\'s new about this?
And after beta comes gamma.

[hook]

Originally posted by Hirato
and hook alpha and beta are the first two letters of the greek alphabet. strangely they don\'t have a C. sine they don\'t have a C in the alphabet in greek. it can\'t be be ABC so its just AB which is alphabeta which means alphabet.

Yes, I know ...I had ancient greek in highschool ...alpha beta gamma delta etc. etc.

And, yes, they don\'t have a \"C\" as such, but they do have Kappa (\"K\") and (D)zeta (which is pronounced more like \"C\" then \"Z\")

Dunno why this should be so strange ...I mean, the whole \"western world\" took over the latin alphabet (with a few local adjustments), but most alphabets didn\'t look alike at all ..take the various versions of runes, the greek alphabet, the backwards arabic script, egiption hieroglyphs etc. etc.

Well, I think we should leave this alphabet-war at rest slowly.