Roleplaying in other games?

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
However, many people in this community would frown upon it as \"not-RP\".

So, were you asking this in order to hear people\'s opinion on it, or so you could point out the flaws of other people?  

This is what I\'ve found to generally be the point of your posts and why most of them are so obscure because you don\'t want to say it directly for some reason.

I ask this while assuming that I know what your reply would/is going to be, if it is at all like any of your others, but I wonder at the validity of it.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Kiern

Originally posted by zanzibar
However, many people in this community would frown upon it as \"not-RP\".

So, were you asking this in order to hear people\'s opinion on it, or so you could point out the flaws of other people?

How in grace is disagreeing with the opinion of another person the same thing as pointing out the flaws of that person?  You have a seriously twisted mind my friend.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
How in grace is disagreeing with the opinion of another person the same thing as pointing out the flaws of that person?  You have a seriously twisted mind my friend.

I was asking whether you made the thread because you were actually curious about people\'s opinions or because you wanted to prove some other people wrong.  It\'s about motivation...the purpose of your thread...not whether or not you\'re disagreeing with someone.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Kiern

Originally posted by zanzibar
How in grace is disagreeing with the opinion of another person the same thing as pointing out the flaws of that person?  You have a seriously twisted mind my friend.

I was asking whether you made the thread because you were actually curious about people\'s opinions or because you wanted to prove some other people wrong.  It\'s about motivation...the purpose of your thread...not whether or not you\'re disagreeing with someone.

Actually, what you said was:

Originally posted by Kiern
So, were you asking this in order to hear people\'s opinion on it, or so you could point out the flaws of other people?  This is what I\'ve found to generally be the point of your posts...

You would do better to assume better of others rather than the worst.  Of course, I\'m convinced you have alterior motivations for being such a.... character.  But as fun as these little flame fests are, let\'s not get off topic.  Some people like Draklar actually have interesthing things to say from time to time, why not talk about those points instead of why you think I start threads?

Originally posted by Kiern
I don\'t see much of a difference between my two posts, one is just more clear than the other.  It would help if you bothered with an explanation, but I know that won\'t happen.

First, there is a difference between the two posts, whether you intended it or not.  Second, I already gave an explanation when Draklar suggested that my language was unclear.  I believe that an explanation wasn\'t necessary in the first place, but I gave clarification as a courtesy.

No.  You\'re after something else.  Instead of contributing to discussions, you accuse me time and time again of making threads simply to ridicule or criticise other people in this community.  That accusation is nothing but an extension of your own personal paranoia and malliciousness.  Please take control of your insecurities and exercise the self-control necessary to prohibit yourself from acting out on others in such a wasteful way.  It would also be nice if you stopped putting so much energy into trying to make threads to go off topic.

Now, I\'ve told you this in other threads, and it has not stopped being true:  If you have anything to contribute to the discussion, I would hear it gladly.  Others have already made interesting and intelligent contributions, and there\'s nothing, except for pride, to stop you from joining their ranks.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
You would do better to assume better of others rather than the worst.  Of course, I\'m convinced you have alterior motivations for being such a.... character.  But as fun as these little flame fests are, let\'s not get off topic.  Some people like Draklar actually have interesthing things to say from time to time, why not talk about those points instead of why you think I start threads?

First, I don\'t see much of a difference between my two posts, one is just more clear than the other.  It would help if you bothered with an explanation, but I know that won\'t happen.

Disregarding that, you have well over 1000 posts, and from reading them I think I can make a somewhat correct assumption of your motivations behind them.  And since you always refuse to answer me when I question your reasoning I can only make the assumption that I\'m right about them.

In all of these posts, you\'ve given me no reason to think \"better\" of you, so why would I?

The topic at hand is finished, unless you have something to add to it.  Which is what I was attempting to get you to do by figuring out your reasoning for creating it in the first place because you apparently are not satisfied with the answers given.  Saying something to the effect of \"but others disagree\" gives Draklar (and others) nothing to refute, stagnating the conversation.

I\'m interested in these ulterior motives you seem to think I have, but I\'d be shocked if you were to explain that.  I have little to no connections to Planeshift, and the little I do related to it is (now) here in public view.  In any case, it has nothing to do with this conversation.

[Draklar]

Precisely.

And by the way, you\'re going too far with certain things,

Originally posted by zanzibar
It\'s ok.  I understand that you\'re simply acting out to establish an online persona in a medium which can be harsh and judgemental.:)

Your personal attacks are tiring me, zanzibar. Quit trolling around.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Draklar
Precisely.

And by the way, you\'re going too far with certain things,

Originally posted by zanzibar
It\'s ok.  I understand that you\'re simply acting out to establish an online persona in a medium which can be harsh and judgemental.

Your personal attacks are tiring me, zanzibar. Quit trolling around.

I\'m not attacking you at all, my friend.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
First, there is a difference between the two posts, whether you intended it or not.  Second, I already gave an explanation when Draklar suggested that my language was unclear.  I believe that an explanation wasn\'t necessary in the first place, but I gave clarification as a courtesy.

You\'re right, I didn\'t exactly type word for word what I said.  If there\'s any difference then that you would have to explain it and saying that they are different is NOT explaining it.  And you clarified nothing about your motivations only what you meant in your regular post.

Originally posted by zanzibar
No.  You\'re after something else.  Instead of contributing to discussions, you accuse me time and time again of making threads simply to ridicule or criticise other people in this community.  That accusation is nothing but an extension of your own personal paranoia and malliciousness. It would also be nice if you stopped putting so much energy into trying to make threads to go off topic.

This is ridiculous.  Quit pulling arguments out of thin air.  I have never accused you of making threads to ridicule other people aside from this thread, I have merely criticized you for making completely trivial and pointless threads in past topics.  I am attempting to ADD TO this topic, not bring it off-topic by figuring out WHAT YOU WANT from it.  But you keep dragging it completely away from that by accusing me of having \"ulterior motives\".

Originally posted by zanzibar
Now, I\'ve told you this in other threads, and it has not stopped being true:  If you have anything to contribute to the discussion, I would hear it gladly.  Others have already made interesting and intelligent contributions, and there\'s nothing, except for pride, to stop you from joining their ranks.

I replied to your original topic, it was only after everyone more or less AGREED and I saw that you were not satisfied that I brought the rest up.  And yet you can\'t answer a simple damn question but expect everyone else to.

[zanzibar]

I\'ve already answered your question.  There is no \"secret agenda\" to my threads.  Now stop spamming. :|

[Karyuu]

But YOU can! By addressing the original post/topic in this discussion and avoiding quoting/replying to the mess that happened afterwards, for it shall either be deleted or closed once more. Please :)

[Xordan]

roleplaying = anything not ooc.

So there\'s loads of roleplaying in lots of games. The best roleplaying is when a person isn\'t making an effort to roleplay. So any board game, PC game, pen and paper game, etc. which you just \'play\' without thinking of anything ooc counts as roleplaying.

And yes, some people in PS do have very strange notions on what roleplaying is.

[derwoodly]

hummm.... \"roleplay is best when the person is not making any effort\".... I do not think that is roleplaying.  I actually think that is the oppisite of roleplaying.

I am not sure why this thread was not pointed out in this link, but here is a link to roleplay instructions.  Yes, this is the post by XpYtz that it is stuck to the top of the Plaza forum.

http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=10310&boardid=19&styleid=3

Too answer Zanz original question.  D&D is the only true non computer RPG I have ever played.  I would not count Monopoly or Risk as a RPG. In order to be a RPG game you have to have a character sheet.  You then assume the life of this character just like you would if you were in an impov acting class.  Monopoly and Risk do not have that, thus they are just dice roling games.

As too Zanz style of roleplay while he was an Elementalist, I would like to know why he roasted the archers.  Did they shoot first?  In fighting back Zanz commited murder and started a forest fire.  Who ever has claim to that part of the forest will most certainly want Zanz head on pole.  If Zanz character was loyal to the King, he should have surrendered to the kings archers, the King being a reasonable man would have judged wizely.

D&D\'s roleplay is very dependant on the GM at the time.  If the GM of Zanz\'s game had a  sole objective to kill off 75 to 95% of the players characters, then Zanz reaction would make sense.  In such a case I would accuse the GM of making a death dungeon, ignoring the role play part of RPG, wrecking the fun of the Game just to boost he own ego, giving his friends an unfair advantage, and stomp off in a huff.  Ahhh... just disreguard that last part.  That never happened, and it was not me who had his warrior killed by common mold.  !O

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by derwoodly
As too Zanz style of roleplay while he was an Elementalist, I would like to know why he roasted the archers. Did they shoot first? In fighting back Zanz commited murder and started a forest fire. Who ever has claim to that part of the forest will most certainly want Zanz head on pole. If Zanz character was loyal to the King, he should have surrendered to the kings archers, the King being a reasonable man would have judged wizely.

Even if it was an evil act, it would have still been role-playing.


Also, they ambushed us, and I didn\'t ~mean~ to start that forest fire.  I wasn\'t thinking.  I like trees!

[derwoodly]

Originally posted by zanzibar

Even if it was an evil act, it would have still been role-playing.

Also, they ambushed us, and I didn\'t ~mean~ to start that forest fire.  I wasn\'t thinking.  I like trees!

From your words I get the idea that you consider anything your character does roleplaying because in real life you can not cast fireballs.  Unless of cource you really can conjure flaming orbs of plasma out of thin air.  I don\'t happen to agree with you if that is the case.  Commiting an evil act reqiures your character to actually be evil.  If the players that are playing with you are roleplaying good characters they should stop you.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by derwoodly

Originally posted by zanzibar

Even if it was an evil act, it would have still been role-playing.

Also, they ambushed us, and I didn\'t ~mean~ to start that forest fire.  I wasn\'t thinking.  I like trees!

From your words I get the idea that you consider anything your character does roleplaying because in real life you can not cast fireballs.  Unless of cource you really can conjure flaming orbs of plasma out of thin air.  I don\'t happen to agree with you if that is the case.  Commiting an evil act reqiures your character to actually be evil.  If the players that are playing with you are roleplaying good characters they should stop you.

And from your words, I\'m becoming very dismissive of your ideas.


\"Commiting an evil act reqiures your character to actually be evil.\"

Wrong.


\"If the players that are playing with you are roleplaying good characters they should stop you.\"

Who said they didn\'t try?


Thankyou, come again!