Music: "March of the Stonebreakers"

[Godfrey]

Originally posted by zanzibar
It fits in with the other planeshift music.  The opening theme is definately inspired by the Planeshift opening theme (jingle splash).  Later on, it gets confused thematically.  Having a more definate return would make it more cohesive.

Well, I can\'t do much about your confusion, but I did have a nice chuckle about your final sentence, given that the last section contains an exact recapitulation of the first theme (moved from the oboes/basson to violins/cellos/bassoon), not to mention the penultimate section, in which the first and second violins use variations on the primary oboe motif to modulate back to the tonic of the piece.

[Toao]

*2 Thumbs UP*
Thats some Good Sh*t right there.

Vary Well done

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Godfrey

Originally posted by zanzibar
It fits in with the other planeshift music.  The opening theme is definately inspired by the Planeshift opening theme (jingle splash).  Later on, it gets confused thematically.  Having a more definate return would make it more cohesive.

Well, I can\'t do much about your confusion (ha ha ha), but I did have a nice chuckle about your final sentence, given that the last section contains an exact recapitulation of the first theme (moved from the oboes/basson to violins/cellos/bassoon), not to mention the penultimate section, in which the first and second violins use variations on the primary oboe motif to modulate back to the tonic of the piece.

There\'s no reason to get defensive and there\'s even less reason to start throwing insults.  It was just an attempt at constructive criticism, for f***\'s sake.

[Godfrey]

Originally posted by zanzibar
There\'s no reason to get defensive and there\'s even less reason to start throwing insults.  It was just an attempt at constructive criticism, for f***\'s sake.

Dude, I\'m not the one getting defensive.  And I can\'t seem to find where I\'ve thrown any insults (even when including your alterations to my text when you quoted me).

I do appreciate constructive criticism -- note that I asked Stephen McNaire for more detail on his (which, sadly, he has not yet provided) --  but when your suggestion is to do something that\'s already in there, how am I supposed to respond, other than with laughter?  

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Godfrey

Originally posted by zanzibar
There\'s no reason to get defensive and there\'s even less reason to start throwing insults.  It was just an attempt at constructive criticism, for f***\'s sake.

Dude, I\'m not the one getting defensive.  And I can\'t seem to find where I\'ve thrown any insults (even when including your alterations to my text when you quoted me).

I do appreciate constructive criticism -- note that I asked Stephen McNaire for more detail on his (which, sadly, he has not yet provided) --  but when your suggestion is to do something that\'s already in there, how am I supposed to respond, other than with laughter?  

Originally posted by Godfrey
I can\'t do much about your confusion

was insulting.

[Karyuu]

I have a fear that this thread will become a back-and-forth argument over this, so this is a pre-warning to remain on topic instead of discussing others\' word choice.

[zanzibar]

Sure thing.



To clarify:  I wasn\'t confused by the music.  I found the music to be confused, at the time.  There\'s a difference.  As with any other critique, no offense was intended to the composer.

[Godfrey]

Originally posted by zanzibar
To clarify:  I wasn\'t confused by the music.  I found the music to be confused, at the time.

Well, zanzibar, if you do indeed intend constructive criticism, perhaps you could go into a bit more detail.  What did you find \"confused\" about it?  In which section(s)?  (Times in minutes/seconds would be helpful.)

[Gentar]

\"Sure thing.

To clarify: I wasn\'t confused by the music. I found the music to be confused, at the time. There\'s a difference. As with any other critique, no offense was intended to the composer.\"

Man I love this !! you just agreed with karyuu and then went immediately back into your one-on-one discussion.

I dont know much about the creation of music, I do know that it sounds quite good though. I have to say it again though, you should seriously do more game quality work and then apply for the dev team. Dont post it on the forums! Im sure it would be highly considered for in game use. I dont really know how the devs work so maybe theyd take the one you did already, but as far as I\'ve heard, If its posted in the forums the chances of in game use are diminished.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Karyuu
I have a fear that this thread will become a back-and-forth argument over this, so this is a pre-warning to remain on topic instead of discussing others\' word choice.

[JellyWerker]

I liked it, the instruments do seem to reverb a bit much (probably my cheap speakers) but overall it was pretty good, and would make nice game music.

[Induane]

Actually the posts got much better after Karyuu posted so all seemed well - there isn\'t anything wrong with constructive criticism.


I personally loved the music.  There was a part there where it sort of dragged a bit but listening to it again I can\'t seem to pinpoint anything specific - maybe its a little drawn out?

Otherwise fantastic job, this sort of thing is awsome!

[Draklar]

First of all I have to say really impressive.

But now for the criticizm ;)

The track doesn\'t really give me that dwarven feeling. Rather, when I listen to it, I imagine a royal mansion with fountains and richly dressed maidens gathered around them. And maybe a bard somewhere ;)
When the music becomes stronger it gives me an impression of entering the palace, where one can admire its wonders. All in all it really seems human-like.

Now what I\'d expect from dwarf-related music is a deep, somewhat hollowed sound. Although the latter is really optional. I think the drumming needs changing too, as in should be transformed to a lower form. Moreover, occasional really, really low drumming forming the absolute background can do wonders. Ultimately well portioned speed and form of drumming should be a solid base for many forms of dwarf-related music.
Try to express strength too. I think this can be done by short interludes where you add slightly more power to the music.

But that of course is just my opinion ;)