Has something dramatic changed in the planeshift economy?

[zanzibar]

Today and yesterday, I sold over thirty fire, frosty, and dark weapons through the Guild Warriors shop.  The weapons didn\'t sell cheeply; it was all in the 3-4k range.

My question:  Has it always been this way and the shops simply have a good thing going on in terms of marketting, or has something more dramatic changed?

[Kythag]

My impression(I can\'t speak about the distant past) is that Bodacher and Ganinos started the PC Shop World with Hydlaa Outfitters, an outlet for excess weaponry that is highly prized for the rarity of finding these weapons in game.  As always, this creates a tendency to \"spend money to make money\" in concept.

[Jinkeen]

I think that the NPC being up more consistently over the last few weeks has helped too.  People are able to hunt longer and increase the chances of looting special weapons.  This puts more valuable weapons into the economy and allows access to those that don\'t have the skills to handle gladiators and hard rogues yet.  

The fairly new players are able to buy the high slash weapons and then they can kill more and loot and sell premium weapons too.  

I predict that the abundance of such weapons will lead to a decrease in price over the next few months unless a steady flow of new players stick with the game.  I have been helping and arming them on the weekends to make the initial experince more fun and thereby hopefully getting them to stay longer.

[Cha0s]

And then the wipe will come, the weapon prices will drop, and all will be well. Because right now, PS is a power-leveling haven and it drives me nuts.
You get too much experience from monsters and too many expensive weapons and items. Partly, this is because a lot of players started out really powerful due to the bugs in the early looting system. In short, I can\'t wait for the wipe.

[yayoo]

Hurray for the wipe!

[zanzibar]

Eww.... wipe.... that means training my characters up again.  Bleck.

[Kythag]

I have to disagree about there being too much loot.  If you are online during the day, there are only a few spawns that drop anything.  These locations are camped by the uber-powerful for more weapons to stockpile etc.

If I want loot I have to wait until late at night when there\'s just a few peopple on(nightowls like me).  I\'m still trying to figure how people are getting frosty longsword from a certain crossroad while I am lucky to get a 5 slash weapon.

If all the creatures dropped loot, but more rarely, then the loot could be distributed more evenly.  But, hey, its all coming out in the wash.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Kythag
I have to disagree about there being too much loot.  If you are online during the day, there are only a few spawns that drop anything.  These locations are camped by the uber-powerful for more weapons to stockpile etc.

If I want loot I have to wait until late at night when there\'s just a few peopple on(nightowls like me).  I\'m still trying to figure how people are getting frosty longsword from a certain crossroad while I am lucky to get a 5 slash weapon.

If all the creatures dropped loot, but more rarely, then the loot could be distributed more evenly.  But, hey, its all coming out in the wash.

There are tonnes of creatures that drop weapons, but only some of them drop the good weapons.  There are at least 15 creatures in the game that will drop dark, fire, and frosty weapons.  There are at least another 15 different creatures in the game that drop weapons, but not dark, fire or frosty weapons.

[Archon]

Supply and demand...

High supply, lower demand. This makes earlier rare items cheaper. In the past, fire, frosty, and dark weapons sold from 5-8k. Considering there are more people looting, there\'s going to be more supply. Since people don\'t want to sell to Harnquist considering how much more money people will get selling to shops, the prices will continue to drop.

This is the only reason I\'m looking foward to the whipe. This will bring back the past economy hopefully, bringing items to their \"right\" prices.

[Kythag]

Exactly how many are available to the average player?   Lets do the math, 30 creatures total, during the day there are over 100 characters.  I coming short 70 and more.  At nighttime, there are 30 or more people.

[Nikodemus]

If the chance to loot them is now rare enough (and i know it is smaller), then the accumulated before weapons number will decrease. It will decrease because new people who need them, will buy them. They will buy them and after some time get bored and stop playing or do somethink else.
There will be less powerful weapons, the price will go up and everybody will be happy.
Who felt happier after reading my post, rise hand
Niko raises his paw

[DaveG]

I hate the psychotic weapons, but everything has a silver lining.  I absolutely love how we have an actual functioning player economy.    Ideally, the wipe will reset this, and make it more balanced.  (crafting will help too)

[Kythag]

DaveG, where are you from?  It doesn\'t seem clear to me

Edit:  Now for the topic --

Will the forging/crafting skills allow the forging of medium and heavy armor?  I would like to open Kythag\'s Ye Olde Armor Shoppe.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Archon
Supply and demand...

High supply, lower demand. This makes earlier rare items cheaper. In the past, fire, frosty, and dark weapons sold from 5-8k. Considering there are more people looting, there\'s going to be more supply. Since people don\'t want to sell to Harnquist considering how much more money people will get selling to shops, the prices will continue to drop.

This is the only reason I\'m looking foward to the whipe. This will bring back the past economy hopefully, bringing items to their \"right\" prices.

Maybe I wasn\'t clear... I sold a ginormous amount of weapons.  There was an incredibly demand.  Anthony and I BOTH ran out of weapons to sell, and we were selling them for around 4k.

[lucifeir]

Originally posted by yayoo
Hurray for the wipe!

yes the wipe like the great flood. it will most definatly rule