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[EVENT] The Otarch's Yndoli Tournament
« on: December 19, 2005, 09:10:09 pm »
Written by Rilar
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Shouter: NEWS! NEWS! A big TOURNAMENT is going to take place!
Amazing dancers, stunning comedians, wealthy merchants and of course outstanding fights! Don\'t miss your chance of seeing the most skilled fighters and mages of the realm fighting for glory! Bet on the most promising participants and get richer than you ever were!
For the fighters? A unique chance of getting rich and known around Yliakum for their incredible skills! Those who manage to get to the top will get princely rewards such as rare weapons and mugs... It is also being whispered about a RING OF THE PAST!
It will take place SOON!
Everyone is invited to participate, magiciens and fighters, youngs and olds! Try your luck! May it be treasures or fame you\'re looking for, you\'ll find both!
Ask the officials for information! Leave a message to Rioth or to Ryer if you are interested.
Pay only 1000 trias to get the chance of becoming famous or give 200 trias to watch the titans of our time clash in amazing battles!


[OOC]

The RP Duelling Tournament has been thought of to give all those RPers that love great RP-fights a chance of performing in incredible duels. But also to give the members of the community a chance to either discover RP or to experience a full RP event for the used RPers.


The Group Keeper will take the entrance fee of people who wish to see the event and invite everyone who wants to participate into /group, apply warnings and kick bad behaving people from the group using [/groupremove].
No one else than the judge, the referee and the Duellists have the right to speak in the group channel. Non active roles (mainly for the crowd) have the right to shout encouragements and such in normal chat (/say) though. The Group Keeper will take care of the law enforcing in the group channel.

People that wish to join the crowd will have to know about the [/me] [/tell {name} /me] commands and the OOC way of speaking between brackets ?( )? ?[ ]? ?{ }?.

The Referee the OOC operator of the fights. He is the one who make the duel go on turn by turn and who makes sure that the players aren\'t taking too much time typing. He also has the ability to pause the duel in group chat if clarifications are needed.

The Judge is the one to make sure the fights are well RPed and that none of the duellists are going OOC and that they stick to the background they submitted. He is the one to RP with the players and the crowd (making comments when needed, stopping the fights, RPing RP cheating of players...). He has the ability to pause the duel as well in group channel if clarifications are needed. He is also the one to chose the winner in some cases.

To participate as fighter please send us (Rioth or amogorkon) an email or PM containing following infos:

a complete list of all items you will be able to have access (please add information for special items like potions, rings etc. to the list)
and
a general character background
and
when you will more likely be able to participate (timezone, date)

This knowledge is completely OOC and the organisers promise to keep it secret as long as there is no important reason like cheating (in the non-RP sense).
The participants on the other hand will have to stick with both, the items and the character background during the tournament.

Please also notify us if you want to participate as food trader, bet collector, story teller, comedian or anything else of your choice.

Note: The tournament will take place (gods willing) on the 2nd and 3rd of January.

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So if you think you can take the challenge and live up to what you are, come now and face your destiny! May you get through the harshness of the battles ahead...
« Last Edit: December 26, 2005, 03:04:51 am by josephoenix »
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2005, 03:04:00 am »
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Poll is over, the date will be january 2-3

also, *bump* ;)

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2005, 04:19:09 am »
The judge goes from a Rp standpoint, correct...? So, how does the judge decide who wins, and in what circumstances?

EDIT: I found out what the rules are: #1, Don\'t kill your opponent, and #2, Don\'t hurt anyone but your opponent.

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2005, 03:25:18 pm »
(The crowd is supposed to determine the winner. The judge only will choose when the crowd`s vote isnt clear enough.)
« Last Edit: December 30, 2005, 03:26:37 pm by Rilar »
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2006, 07:09:45 am »
strange question perhaps but what time will it be held??

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2006, 11:53:03 am »
and another minor point is paying 200 tria just to watch a bit excessive?
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2006, 11:56:05 am »
I too wonder when. I heard somethink of it being today, but no idea what time.



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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2006, 07:59:51 pm »
In 30 to 60 minutes from now!
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2006, 12:46:51 am »
200 To watch is pricey!

I think more would watch if it was 50 tria, though you have newb who will not have that extra (as all they can kill are rats).

So I think this could be good if pricing was right.

It is already turning out to be problematic due to server.  But it looks to be promising.

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2006, 10:34:40 am »
Any results yet? I had to leave just as the second bout started :(
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2006, 11:25:31 am »
It was postponed to saturday, 23 GMT
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2006, 11:40:55 am »
I guess then it\'s time to do some report:

There are already threads going on that talk about issues like the pricing and timing, since those will be thoroughly discussed, I\'ll concentrate in pointing out some other things, as I\'m sure the organizers are pretty aware that, at some points the event went chaotic.

I\'ll start then for the name of the tournament itself. Being the \"Octarch tournament\" I expected some reasoning of why this one was taking place, and since it was the Octarch one, what was in it that, clearly, had to differentiate it from the rest of tournaments we had so far (although the combat system is, in this case, roleplayed, for my char, there should be no difference between seeing a fight that players roleplay the movements, than another when they use the game mechanics. I guess the difference is to the player, but hardly to the spectator char)

Since, here there has already poped out the pricing topic, I\'d say that, even if you didn\'t have the \"real\" money, you were allowed to roleplay you payed (it\'s certain that, if your character can\'t afford it, you shouldn\'t have rp the paying act, but, I guess that you could have done an exception and rp it anyway, specially now, when mostly spectators of this \"events\" are welcomed to share their thoughs, I don\'t really think anyone had cared if your char was poor but you chosed to rp to pay the fee, as long as your attitude during the event was correct)

Notes about the fights themselves, that I think are the important feedback that is required:

The first thing I\'d like to remark that all the contestants of this tournament, where supposed to be great fighters/warriors (despite what their \"official\" game statistics could say. That is, their roleplayed char is a great fighter or warrior) but one thing is being a warrior, and the other one, being a perfect warrior.

Although I was only able to \"see\" (and partially) one of the combats and part of another, I\'d like to point out some things that I think should be improved. I\'ll say in advance that I\'ve never roleplayed a fight, but still, I think I\'m able to remark the things that under my opinion where discordant.

The first thing to notice is that anyone wanted his/her char to be wounded. I fully understand that position, and, if it really turns a problem, I\'d suggest making those tournaments more like an exhibition of abilities, the referees giving even faked weapons, so each contestant shows his/her technique to any spectator that is watching the show. (That to prevent the players from falling in the rigid typing to where you\'re lead, if you make a movement, but at the same time you want to state clear that your char is attacking, but yet, fully prepared for its defense; since the priority is, after all, that one\'s own char ends the fighting with any significant wounds)

While being roleplayed fights, it\'s true that, there\'s required to give a lot of information, so the spectators know what movements are being made, to try to create a mental image of what is going on. Still, that detailed describing shouldn\'t be used to state about the perfection of the attack. More than a real fight, it seemed to me that, sometimes, both contendants where like great commanders, being in their camps, a long way between them, while each was preparing an assault to a fortress, thinking where they had to put their troops, how to cover their weakpoints while at the same time trying to harm the most the opponent. This, that could be the strategy, and it\'s nice before the real fighting takes place, dissapears when an individual fight takes place. Although when starting the combat, one could try to adopt a position that tries both to cover, and provide a nice chance of attack; once the battle has begun, the strategy and mental side leaves its place to more impulsive feelings, and thus should allow imperfections.

The fightings were, also, static. Seemed like both opponents where jailed, instead of being in a big place like the arena, because I never saw anyone running out, only to surprise the other one, or to have some breathing, or to tire the other because the other was too weight... (that resembled me the in game combat system, where the fighting anymation assumes that the char will be not moving from the place, but the fact is that players do move their chars while fighting, since complaints have been made about the \"sliding\" effect that happens when fighting with a combat stance and running at the same time)

Keeping with the environment remark, I was surprised that none of the competitors used the sand, for instance, to throw it to the opponent\'s eyes, and blind his sight (perhaps running towards him, and kicking the sand in front) that accentuated my feeling that the event could have been done anywhere else, although of course, for a fighting the Arena should be the place, but I thought its resources weren\'t fully explored at all.

I think I\'m already being too long, but I\'d like to point out still at least one more thing. While the gaming combat system has its flaws, I noticed also its influence on players on the fact that none of the fighters choosed to have a shield (weather or not the player has a shield in its inventory, for now they\'re useless, so commonly none of the participants had one, it could also be rp that the char indeed had one) while it\'s true that there can be fighters that choose not to have a shield, and rely in its agility and ability to \"dodge\" the opponents attacks, it shocked me a lot that absolutely none of the contestants had a shield.

Also, this now I don\'t remember at all clearly, although the game mechanics allow to handle a sword on each hand, and weild them with equal efficiency, those that chosed not to have a shield, but also another weapon on the other hand, and showed the same dexterity with both hands, should have, and that goes without saying, a roleplay reason that justifies why they\'re able to handle those weapons equally no matter wich hand is used.
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2006, 11:43:48 am »
Hmm Sat 11pm well I\'ll think about it.

btw is that a continuation or restart afresh?

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Since, here there has already poped out the pricing topic, I\'d say that, even if you didn\'t have the \"real\" money, you were allowed to roleplay you payed (it\'s certain that, if your character can\'t afford it, you shouldn\'t have rp the paying act, but, I guess that you could have done an exception and rp it anyway, specially now, when mostly spectators of this \"events\" are welcomed to share their thoughs, I don\'t really think anyone had cared if your char was poor but you chosed to rp to pay the fee, as long as your attitude during the event was correct)


My main point was not whether the spectators would be able to pay actually or rp but the cost, for example a basic sword from Harquist costs around 200 tria so would you expect to pay that much to watch an event ?
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2006, 04:11:05 pm »
I wanted to post here after evaluation the last tournament together with Rioth, but I wasnt able to contact him yet.

One reason why the first fight failed so horribly was because not even the minimum organisational staff was there. We planned about 5-10 people in the organisation as mininum.
At the beginning Rioth was there, so I started the tournament.. but then he got connection problems and wasnt online for long. So I was the only one who had to organise everything, which was a _bit_ much.
I thank Netrhys and Dylia for their help. Without them the tourney wouldnt have taken place at all. I also thank Kandrek and Cyl for their help and Sefron for making the tourney much more interesting.

The first fight was indeed the worst case scenario (except that the event could have gotten completely out of control). But it probably was good to see such a worst case too. It taught much and will help organising the next events.

As I said, I wasnt able to contact Rioth yet. And to prevent another disaster I decide to postpone the tourney to a yet uncertain date. I will keep you updated here.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 04:14:43 pm by Rilar »
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2006, 11:01:43 am »
You are welcome for the help.

As well if there is anything I can do further let me know.
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