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LeonardPabin

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no dragons...........lol
« on: December 24, 2005, 11:39:28 pm »
I decided to be rude and edit all of my posts after a long discussion has already taken place, rendering it somewhat useless.

A small shadow slithers away, with a suspicious likeness to Karyuu.
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2005, 11:51:28 pm »
I don\'t see why certain things are used, while others are completely banned...but you\'re not going to get anything done with this post, I hope you realize.

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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2005, 12:03:20 am »
Merry Christmas to you too ;) Talad, the head of the project, has already stated rather firmly that there will be no dragons in PlaneShift. I\'m not so sure it\'s the \"originality\" factor that plays into this, but more the \"it\'s-been-done-and-done-and-done-again\" bit. Dragons can be twisted around to be rather unique, but change them enough and they\'re no longer dragons, and something else. To learn previous arguments, both for and against, please , as there have been plenty of discussions concerning this issue in the past.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2005, 12:31:39 am »
Why argue a topic thats been decided and wont be changed. the devs made a decision and i hope they keep it.

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I dont think anyone has had a Tefusang, or a clacker before?? unless im mistaken these havnt been used until now (or when PS came out)

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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2005, 12:50:34 am »
LEt the devs do what they wanna do sheesh dragons or not we have cool looking flying things there you go problem solved everyone wins.
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2005, 01:35:09 am »
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?I don?t think anyone has had a Tefusang, or a clacker before???

I?m sure you don?t have to look that hard to find a concept or something that resembles them.

I just think it could be detrimental to the development of ideas and concepts when you limit yourself to any possible ideas. Someone might come up with something totally incredible involving dragons.
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2005, 01:51:07 am »
Someone might, but so far no one has ;) Besides, PlaneShift already has its giant flying lizards:

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The Pterosaurs are reptiles with organs adapted to flight, such as their membranous wings and long tails, which they use as a rudder. The Pterosaurs\' dimensions vary from three to six meters, not including their tails, and their wingspan is directly proportionate to their bodies.


Why request dragons in addition to this?
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2005, 02:08:54 am »
Yes, this \"no mythological creatures\" thing holds up so well...

/me points at the pet griffins  :P

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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2005, 02:30:41 am »
I don\'t see how, when it\'s a matter of preference with the head of the project ;)
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2005, 02:54:31 am »
I want to stick wool onto a dragon that breathes chocolate instead of fire and has jelly beans as feet... but nobody will listen :(

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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2005, 03:43:55 am »
Can we just lock every thread that says \"I want dragons!!\"
Its really annoying by now. And I know that you guys are just gonna go \"well don\'t look at anything that talks about dragons\" We have a dragon like thing, people aren\'t happy with that... So let me ask everyone that wants the oh soo vague descrpition of \"dragons\" : If we have something that is like a dragon and you complain, would it be any different if we just renamed it Dragon instead of Klyros and gave it a different head?

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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2005, 03:51:21 am »
I don?t even care about dragons; I care about the process in which ideas can best be developed that will benefit the game. And I don?t believe that excluded anything flat out is in the interest of that process

I know that there are things other than dragons, that are being just flat out excluded.  I?m just using dragons as an example
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2005, 04:51:28 am »
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I don?t even care about dragons; I care about the process in which ideas can best be developed that will benefit the game. And I don?t believe that excluded anything flat out is in the interest of that process

I know that there are things other than dragons, that are being just flat out excluded.  I?m just using them as an example


lol then what was the point of this thread?? to annoy people? or did you actually care and now your saying that to cover up and agreee with everyone?
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2005, 05:28:29 am »
What ideas, besides using typical \"dragons,\" \"horses,\" \"orcs/goblins,\" \"fairies,\" \"mermaids,\" or whatever else there is? Clearly similar creatures exist or will exist (Pterosaurs, Groffels, Gobbles, etc.), but they won\'t be the exact same thing. Where is the issue?
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2005, 06:19:42 am »
Well I can see the purpose of trying to create a world filled with custom and original content.

Thus if there is a giant flying lizard thats similar to a dragon but called a (i dunno) Murlitchonen it serves the same purpose.

Dragon in all is just a language specific word for a myhological magical flying serpent.  Funny mythologically most were flying serpents and not flying lizards.

However when I see one in game I\'m still going to go \"Oh look a dragon.\" or \"Oh look a goblin.\"  No matter what it is named.

Such as if a character is tall, and slim, and has pointy ears.  No matter what the race in the game is called they\'re going to be elves to everyone.

So is it the developers say \"We\'re going to have no dragons.\" and mean either \"No mythological stereotypical flying serpents with magical powers.\" or they mean \"We\'re not following typical naming conventions or fantasy fluff.\"

Thus you can have dragon like creatures but for game fluff reasons you won\'t find any \"dragons\" they will be called something else.