Outta here

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by Suno_Regin
 If you know them like I do, then you should ignore the GMs and just do what the DEVELOPERS say. GMs are official, but they\'re going to do whatever they want to you just because of what mood they\'re in.

The GM team has been redesigned completely, as of now. It has shrunk to ten people who have gone through an hour-long personal interview with Talad, who judged both their roleplay and moderating capabilities first-hand. GMs now also have an intensive guide to help them make decisions, written for the most part by developers. GM promotions and admissions will also be done by PlaneShift developers until it is felt that the team has enough maturity to handle this on its own. This isn\'t your old GM team - quite a few people have been removed, and those who remain will pretty much be ruled with an iron fist. They will not rule with an iron fist themselves.

You can put your worries aside, Suno.

[zorbels]

Originally posted by Kiern
Listen, ok, you sound like a nice person...but I directly quoted you in a reply that was on topic but was slightly negative but in no way against the rules that you wanted to be deleted.  That point of view bother\'s the hell out of me so I can\'t not reply to it.  I\'d drop it but, unlike you, I pay attention to other people\'s posts as well as who is posting them and this seems to be a recurring theme in yours.  So in an effort not to be repetitious sometime in the near future I thought I\'d get that off my chest and out of the way...

And technically I don\'t think these threads are even allowed to begin with.  Not that I agree with that.
EDIT: to clarify.

Ok it seems to me like you are making a huge issue out of nothing. She simply asked for things to stay on topic, as Psibyre seems to not have. It is as simple as that. If she made a comment that offended you then there is this little button called the pm button. It is not necessary to flood Jinkeens goodbye thread with useless arguments. As for this \"but was slightly negative\" I happen to think you are the most negative in this thread at this moment. So that is quite amusing to me that you would point out this about someone else. As for me pm you with this response I thought it important to point out this issue to others that may read this thread and hope that in the future people will take this problems to the pm button if they are not on topic with the thread.

Originally posted by Kiern
I thought I\'d get that off my chest and out of the way...

Ya me too. :/

[sesmi]

Originally posted by Karyuu

Originally posted by Suno_Regin
 If you know them like I do, then you should ignore the GMs and just do what the DEVELOPERS say. GMs are official, but they\'re going to do whatever they want to you just because of what mood they\'re in.

The GM team has been redesigned completely, as of now. It has shrunk to ten people who have gone through an hour-long personal interview with Talad, who judged both their roleplay and moderating capabilities first-hand. GMs now also have an intensive guide to help them make decisions, written for the most part by developers. GM promotions and admissions will also be done by PlaneShift developers until it is felt that the team has enough maturity to handle this on its own. This isn\'t your old GM team - quite a few people have been removed, and those who remain will pretty much be ruled with an iron fist. They will not rule with an iron fist themselves.

You can put your worries aside, Suno.

THANK GOD! Alot of the GMs were very corrupt. I was muted for no reason, and a friend was banned just for speaking to a GM.

[Suno_Regin]

Originally posted by Karyuu

Originally posted by Suno_Regin
 If you know them like I do, then you should ignore the GMs and just do what the DEVELOPERS say. GMs are official, but they\'re going to do whatever they want to you just because of what mood they\'re in.

The GM team has been redesigned completely, as of now. It has shrunk to ten people who have gone through an hour-long personal interview with Talad, who judged both their roleplay and moderating capabilities first-hand. GMs now also have an intensive guide to help them make decisions, written for the most part by developers. GM promotions and admissions will also be done by PlaneShift developers until it is felt that the team has enough maturity to handle this on its own. This isn\'t your old GM team - quite a few people have been removed, and those who remain will pretty much be ruled with an iron fist. They will not rule with an iron fist themselves.

You can put your worries aside, Suno.

It\'s about time. =)

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zorbels
Ok it seems to me like you are making a huge issue out of nothing. She simply asked for things to stay on topic, as Psibyre seems to not have. It is as simple as that. If she made a comment that offended you then there is this little button called the pm button. It is not necessary to flood Jinkeens goodbye thread with useless arguments. As for this \"but was slightly negative\" I happen to think you are the most negative in this thread at this moment. So that is quite amusing to me that you would point out this about someone else. As for me pm you with this response I thought it important to point out this issue to others that may read this thread and hope that in the future people will take this problems to the pm button if they are not on topic with the thread.

Ok, first off, read my post.  I was pointing out that Psibyre\'s first post was on topic, which it most definately is, if slightly negative.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with being negative sometimes, and yes I AM being negative and I definately mean to be.  So I\'m not exactly sure what you think is so amusing about me doing exactly what I mean to be doing.  As far as I\'m concerned this is not a \"useless argument\" and is very important as to how the board is moderated, it can be like Mogura used to do, which you and Dylia seem to support...which I don\'t.  This mentality reminds me why I don\'t play the game.

As for PM\'s, I\'m addressing the whole point of view that anything negative is wrong and must be wiped from the boards, which seems to be what Dylia thinks.  Or at least if it\'s connected to one of her friends.  Furthermore, if you want to get into the \"what should be in PMs\" discussion, goodbye\'s could easily be moved to there.  But I think that would be stupid.  Anything that anyone else can add to should be in the public boards, anything that people WOULD NOT be able to add to such as a private joke or something you don\'t want any comments on should be in the PMs.  I want to hear other people\'s opinions so they can draw their own conclusions even if they\'re biased, therefore I\'m going to post here.

I don\'t see it as rude to post these things in this persons goodbye post, they\'ve already said they are not going to read it.  You\'re all saying goodbye to a non-existant person.

EDIT: some more

[Dylia]

Originally posted by Kiern
Ok, first off, read my post.  I was pointing out that Psibyre\'s first post was on topic, which it most definately is, if slightly negative.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with being negative sometimes, and yes I AM being negative and I definately mean to be.  So I\'m not exactly sure what you think is so amusing about me doing exactly what I mean to be doing.  As far as I\'m concerned this is not a \"useless argument\" and is very important as to how the board is moderated, it can be like Mogura used to do, which you and Dylia seem to support...which I don\'t.  This mentality reminds me why I don\'t play the game.

Take a breather from your computer. I did. Yes you sound very negative to me and it also seems you like to personally attack people. I am hoping I am wrong.As for Mogura, I have never spoken with her. So as for me supporting her you are wrong. I read the forum rules and follow those. If she wrote some rules you don\'t agree with _I_ am not the person to take it out on.

As for PM\'s, I\'m addressing the whole point of view that anything negative is wrong and must be wiped from the boards, which seems to be what Dylia thinks.  Or at least if it\'s connected to one of her friends.  Furthermore, if you want to get into the \"what should be in PMs\" discussion, goodbye\'s could easily be moved to there.  But I think that would be stupid.  Anything that anyone else can add to should be in the public boards, anything that people WOULD NOT be able to add to such as a private joke or something you don\'t want any comments on should be in the PMs.  I want to hear other people\'s opinions so they can draw their own conclusions even if they\'re biased, therefore I\'m going to post here.

You do not know what I think and that is apparent just by your posts. I don\'t think all things negative should be deleted but posts off topic getting deleted is one of the rules and again I didn\'t make those rules I play by then like everyone else. As for the topic being very important I would agree and that\'s why it should be in a separate thread. More openly your discussion belongs here --->
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I don\'t see it as rude to post these things in this persons goodbye post, they\'ve already said they are not going to read it.  You\'re all saying goodbye to a non-existant person.
EDIT: some more

If you had bothered to read my posts you would know I am still talking with him because that is what friends do. I tell him about the people who said goodbye to him which so far there is only three that haven\'t. As for the goodbye post not belonging :
General Discussion
Discussions about PlaneShift, Roleplaying and more...
Jinkeen is a character in the game and he left. Yes some of his leaving was ooc and that why his goodbye wasn\'t in the In-Game Roleplay Events. And it fine that YOU don\'t want to say good bye to someone you don\'t know because apparently you don\'t play the game which would explain why you don\'t know any of us, which in most cases is not a big deal. So why cant we all just leave well enough alone. I did until I was openly told my thoughts by someone who doesn\'t have a clue about me and is confused.
It is actually really sad that the reasons on why Jinkeen left become more and more believable in this very thread. I suggest you all re-read this thread and look at what he did say and then laugh like I am because as he said it -- it happened right here in this thread. And now I guess with that said I would have to say you are all on topic but leave me out of it. I don\'t like these head games and choose to be happy and not so stressed out.
For anyone who knew or even didn\'t know Jinkeen and want to say goodbye and have the message passed to him (in case you cant get a hold of him) you may send me a message though PM\'s and I will give it to him

[Drey]

/me puts up a \"Don\'t feed the Kiern\" sign.


Jinkeen has left, simple as. He may be back... Just wish him the best and get on with it.

[Karyuu]

Aye, I think this is why goodbye threads are generally skipped over by many :P

[Dylia]

Thank you for the kind words Drey and Karyuu. As I said I am laughing ^^ And I do hope that I can get him back here. He did make it fun and had many good jokes along with ideas.

[Suno_Regin]

Kiern must be really pissed, I don\'t remember her ever acting this way; but, I don\'t really know her either, I just skim by her posts. =P

[Kiern]

How can you misread my post so entirely?  I honestly have no idea where you pulled some of this stuff from.  Let us break it down, shall we?

Originally posted by Dylia
Take a breather from your computer. I did.

Irrelevant.  This conversation has carried on over a course of two days.  I don\'t think the few posts I made took quite that long to make.

Originally posted by Dylia
Yes you sound very negative to me and it also seems you like to personally attack people. I am hoping I am wrong.As for Mogura, I have never spoken with her. So as for me supporting her you are wrong. I read the forum rules and follow those. If she wrote some rules you don\'t agree with _I_ am not the person to take it out on.

Don\'t put words in my mouth.  I said you share Mogura\'s view on how the forums should be run. Not that you support her directly.  I naturally assumed you have read the forum in the past and was just giving an example.  I\'m also not personally attacking you, just your viewpoint on how the forum runs.  As I said, you sound like a sweet person.  That doesn\'t make me think you\'re right, however.

Originally posted by Dylia
You do not know what I think and that is apparent just by your posts. I don\'t think all things negative should be deleted but posts off topic getting deleted is one of the rules and again I didn\'t make those rules I play by then like everyone else.

Let me quote you directly for this one:

Originally posted by Dylia

Originally posted by Psibyre
Thanks for taking it like a man!  Appreciate it.

Bye.  PlaneShift really isn\'t much of a -game- as it is an interactive chat room...  I run it in the background and do other things.

*shakes her head in sad disappointment*
Does he even know you? I wish your posts on this thread would have been deleted. So please don\'t post anymore on this thread. Thank you.

I\'ll point out the important parts now:
  Psibyre: On topic post commenting on Jinkeen leaving.
  You:  Saying it should be deleted.

And that, as well as previous posts by you is where my arguement stems from.  One you completely ignored with all the rest of this nonsense.  Please, if you actually read one thing, read that.

Originally posted by Dylia
If you had bothered to read my posts you would know I am still talking with him because that is what friends do. I tell him about the people who said goodbye to him which so far there is only three that haven\'t. As for the goodbye post not belonging :
General Discussion

Then what\'s the point in saying he won\'t be reading this?  To pump up his ego?  I don\'t get it.  But don\'t bother with that, it has nothing to do with anything.  As for you saying the goodbye post belonging.  That\'s great, I agree with you that it should, but in the past they have been locked/deleted all over the place.  I can assure you I know a bit more on that subject..

Originally posted by Dylia
It is actually really sad that the reasons on why Jinkeen left become more and more believable in this very thread. I suggest you all re-read this thread and look at what he did say and then laugh like I am because as he said it -- it happened right here in this thread. And now I guess with that said I would have to say you are all on topic but leave me out of it.

Great.  I\'m glad you are laughing.  Because this is a lot of fun for me.  I just wish you could actually formulate an argument based on what I did say rather then what you pull out of the air.  This is one of the few times I\'ll miss Draklar and Mogura.

[Suno_Regin]

Kiern, why do you bother? Dylia just wants her friend back, I didn\'t read your post because it was too long, and for it to be that long, there would have to be a lot of mindless talk in it that no one cares about. The reason WHY Jinkeen left, is because of people like you. Criticizing everything everyone says/does.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Suno_Regin
Kiern, why do you bother? Dylia just wants her friend back
 
The reason WHY Jinkeen left, is because of people like you. Criticizing everything everyone says/does.

Because it entertains me?  It\'s easy enough to ignore me, if she really wanted to she would.  I\'m only replying to what other people have said.  Nothing is wrong with criticism...I can\'t help it if Jinkeen doesn\'t like it, I\'m sorry.  And I\'m not being sarcastic.

[Dylia]

Originally posted by Suno_Regin
Kiern, why do you bother? Dylia just wants her friend back, I didn\'t read your post because it was too long, and for it to be that long, there would have to be a lot of mindless talk in it that no one cares about. The reason WHY Jinkeen left, is because of people like you. Criticizing everything everyone says/does.

Thank you I could not have said it any better and since this post is no longer having anyone say goodbye to Jinkeen I do hope the Mods lock it and be done with the senselessness that has started in this thread. (and yes JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE READS THAT RIGHT YES I AM TALKING ABOUT MYSELF IN THAT TOO)

[Suno_Regin]

Originally posted by Kiern

Originally posted by Suno_Regin
Kiern, why do you bother? Dylia just wants her friend back
 
The reason WHY Jinkeen left, is because of people like you. Criticizing everything everyone says/does.

Because it entertains me?  It\'s easy enough to ignore me, if she really wanted to she would.  I\'m only replying to what other people have said.  Nothing is wrong with criticism...I can\'t help it if Jinkeen doesn\'t like it, I\'m sorry.  And I\'m not being sarcastic.

Ignoring you is one thing, but trying to get a thread back on topic is another. Thanks to you, this thread got way off subject, we went from saying goodbye to Jinkeen to you criticizing Dylia for some senseless reason. I agree, it should be locked now, that or your posts be deleted so we can keep this going.

(I would rather use another word, but it is censored, so if you have half a brain, I bet you can guess what I originally said.)