Problem with High scores

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by BlackAcre

Originally posted by zanzibar

Originally posted by r.guppy

By zanzibar
Ok. Let\'s say 50 people cheat their way to the top of the score table.

 Duh only room for 5.

By zanzibar
What freaking difference does it make?

 So you condone cheating.

What a stupid response.  If someone changes those stats, it makes NO difference to anyone else.  It hurts no one and nothing in any meaningful way.

Not to belabor the point, but it does effect someone\'s ability to fairly compete and rank high in the ratings.

Cheating isn\'t permissible for a reason.

The ratings are completely meaningless unless you happen to care about such things of so little meaning.  But you shouldn\'t care!

[fireofsoul]

Yeah, we got past the point in the first page of posting

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by fireofsoul
Yeah, we got past the point in the first page of posting

Not from what I see.

[Pip]

Originally posted by zanzibar

Originally posted by fireofsoul
Yeah, we got past the point in the first page of posting

Not from what I see.

Just because not everyone agrees with you, doesn\'t mean they didn\'t understand you. I think most people understand you only too well.

[zanzibar]

You disapeared from the board for a month, and then you return just to make an attempt at insulting someone?  That\'s sad.  I\'ve missed you too, but why don\'t you take your flaming to another board?  People here actually care about the quality of content on this forum.

While you\'re at it, don\'t put words in my mouth.  It comes across as ignorant.



Editted by zanzibar to make it less rude.

[Karyuu]

I already had to delete a post from the thread - I don\'t want to have to do it again. Please keep your tempers in check, and don\'t post unless you\'re actually contributing something to the discussion.

First public warning.

[fireofsoul]

That is faaaaaaar from flaming from Pip, if you care about the quality on the forums, why not check your own posts? Anyhoo back onto the topic; Nobody cares about the Highscores and the few that do care about them are entitled to care, The end.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by fireofsoul
That is faaaaaaar from flaming from Pip, if you care about the quality on the forums, why not check your own posts? Anyhoo back onto the topic; Nobody cares about the Highscores and the few that do care about them are entitled to care, The end.

No.  It was flaming.  Not so veiled as your own, and made worse because she only came back to do the deed.

You contradicted yourself.  Nobody cares, and the few that do.... you can\'t have it both ways.  It\'s obvious that a number of people, regulars at that, do in fact care about this.

[Father Sengus]

I just found this thread and read all posts, so hopefully I\'m not repeating something that has already been said.
As lots of people already stated, the lists are completely OOC which is why only OOC things (that do not ruin RP) should be found there.
Advisor points are based on deeds done on an OOC channel, so there\'s really no reason for that list being removed. It is the only way for advisors to get credit for what they do, and they really deserve it. There is nothing saying an advisor is there to help without asking credit in return. He is there to give good answers, no matter the reasons why he decides to do so...

Dueling on the other hand, is an IC action which becomes OOC when rated on an OOC list. As long as the devs leave the list there, we really can\'t flame people for trying to reach the top.

Also, you could say a new innoficial list of the best duelists has been created through Proglin\'s great fighting tournaments (which are IC). If the devs would remove the OOC list it would be a good way to show that they encourage initiatives taken by players.

[Pestilence]

hmmm well I don\'t know. duels are IC in the part that people would talk about it.

I like to think of the lists not as what is known by the players but more of what the NPC characters think and if you look at them you are listening to the gossip filling the plaza.

It\'s all how you look at it I guess. It\'s only as OOC as you make it yourself.

[Drey]

its fixed now. (mostly)

[Suno_Regin]

This is leading up to keeping people from having two accounts. Noxide now has THREE seperate characters in the dueling scores. What he\'s doing, is logging on with his GM account, and his newbie accounts, and constantly challenging, accepting, and yielding, to gain so many points in so little time. It should be only one character from the same IP be in the high scores, so we don\'t have this...mass collecting going on.

[Karyuu]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with having multiple characters (whether from one account or separate, owned by the same person) showing up on the charts. The characters have nothing to do with each other, and noXide himself explained in this very thread what he is doing - and what point he is trying to prove.

The charts are going to be trashed eventually anyway - they aren\'t permanent, and were never meant to be. Frankly it\'s wasted time and effort to sort through some arbitrary list on some hidden page and decide who \"should\" belong on it and who \"shouldn\'t.\"

If the charts matter so much to you, you really should reevaluate yourself.

[Suno_Regin]

Well, ingame charts would be nice, though. Not these OOC charts, but in the arena, there should be some kind of recorded high score (recorded by the server, but there would also be some kind of NPC charter to ask questions about the highscore poster).

[Father Sengus]

But Karyuu, are you saying that the advisor list should be trashed as well? I couldn\'t figure that out from your post.
If you do think it should be trashed, why?