Will I be banned?

[ylikone]

I sometimes go to the arena and kill some of the easier mercenaries that spawn in the top side sections... only problem is that they ALWAYS have campers at them.  I once came to the same spot 3 times in the time span of about 4 hours during the day and the same player was there the whole time!  So, I lured the mercenary away from him on the next spawn.. and got cursed at.   Stupid spawn campers.

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by zanzibar
You would think that, but no.

There are new GM rules that define \"kill stealing\" better :) A player generally needs to ask first before taking something from a crowd, but if they refuse, he or she has every right to \"get in line\" regardless. As long as the player still gives others a chance, no amount of reports will cause a GM to take action.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Karyuu

Originally posted by zanzibar
You would think that, but no.

There are new GM rules that define \"kill stealing\" better A player generally needs to ask first before taking something from a crowd, but if they refuse, he or she has every right to \"get in line\" regardless. As long as the player still gives others a chance, no amount of reports will cause a GM to take action.

Yeah, well there were rules before too.

[BlackAcre]

Originally posted by Karyuu

Originally posted by zanzibar
You would think that, but no.

There are new GM rules that define \"kill stealing\" better A player generally needs to ask first before taking something from a crowd, but if they refuse, he or she has every right to \"get in line\" regardless. As long as the player still gives others a chance, no amount of reports will cause a GM to take action.

The, ahem, \"Don\'t Ask, Don\'t Steal\" policy...

[Drey]

Originally posted by r.guppy

By LinkN64
 Will I be banned?
I was walking in that forest area and I killed the rogue that usually has a crowd around it. Well I killed the rogue,and the entire crowd reported me....will I be banned? I did one thing,but what if people think that I did multiple things because multiple people reported me?

 You should be tied to nearest tree and a cigarette put in your mouth and lit, then blindfolded, and tickled till you cry .

 Or put on a podium and hailed as a conquering hero.

 Lets break it down shall we:
 \"I was walking in that forest area\" OK so far.
 \"and I killed the rogue\"  Why?
 \"that usually has a crowd around it.\" Was there?
 \"Well I killed the rogue\" why?
 \"and the entire crowd reported me\" So there was a crowd.

SO that leaves me wondering WHY Did you kill it?

It was likely to do with reasons such as PP and loot... the general reason people kill things. You cannot argue with that seeing as you kill quite alot yourself (unless you are french of course.).

[Mezasa]

Originally posted by Drey
It was likely to do with reasons such as PP and loot... the general reason people kill things. You cannot argue with that seeing as you kill quite alot yourself (unless you are french of course.).

xD

I just got reminded of the French castle in \"The Holy Grail\".  

\"I fart in your general direction!\"

[Izzy*dot]

Originally posted by Mezasa
I just got reminded of the French castle in \"The Holy Grail\".

\"Cherchez la vache!\"
-\"What?\"
\"Cherchez la vache!!\"
-\"What?\"
\"SEEK THE COW!!\"
-\"Oh.\"

Used to crack me up everytime I saw that.

[derwoodly]

I have the same image...

\"go away or I shall taunt you a second time!\"

err ya, well anyways,  I agree with R.G on this one competitive killing does not seem to encourage roleplay to me. Groups should form up in town and travel outside to round up rouges like a mob of vigilanites IMHO.

[Gripen]

Okay, so I\'m a noob in PS and in actual rpg (my rpg turned out to be just adventure games).  Talk about role play--I am a (life path) rogue--and I kill rogues, I can\'t rob or kill citizens, I can however sneak around on roofs and tops of walls (if I can jump onto them)--so where is the role play in that?

I haven\'t found any spawns so fantastic that people camp on them, and I haven\'t found any rules regarding a spawn point. Still, when I saw someone using one--I chatted, based upon what I saw. The character let me try to take her loot, it didn\'t work, I was told in screen note that I am not authorized to take loot. After a little more chat about that, I asked to kill one to see if I could even get loot. It worked.

Then I told her she could continue on the spawn point and I\'d go elsewhere.  She let me have it (thank-you).

In this experience I saw that characters could stand off from the spawn point, and let the creatures wander.

What you all mean by \"compete\" I don\'t know, but the vision of a bunch of people scrambling for the spawn point is rather on the ridiculous side.

Are their \"spawn point\" rules?  In the posted case, was the group fighting the rogue and this person killed it at the last minute while they were trying to regain?

Respect is key, even when they all say know, shouldn\'t one ask \"why?\"

[Kiern]

\"What\'s wrong with MMORPG\'s?...\"

[derwoodly]

When Zanz or Suno says \"compete\" they mean attacking the creature first so they can loot.  I believe the current game mechanics allow only the person who attacked the \"mob\" first to loot. It is very similar to the infamous \"nija looting\" and Kill stealing in other MMORPG\'s.

To Zanzibars credit, he has posted a technique for getting an edge in this kind of competition, and it seems to be in line with the current unwriten rules.

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by derwoodly
To Zanzibars credit, he has posted a technique for getting an edge in this kind of competition, and it seems to be in line with the current unwriten rules.

I didn\'t see any techniques from him in this thread, and if you were referring to his arrow comment, you were quite wrong - using magic to snag a kill from another person (when they have initiated an attack) is indeed kill stealing.

[Lazaro]

You could always add some actual NPC monsters into the game so that one spawn point is not coveted.  Or a random spawn generator....kill it and it doesn\'t come back there.  Then we can sit back and watch everyone run to the other side of the area to kill it.  Spawn camping turns to spawn hunting turns to massive chaos, pandemonium.  And the rest just sit back and laugh, laugh, laugh.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Karyuu

Originally posted by derwoodly
To Zanzibars credit, he has posted a technique for getting an edge in this kind of competition, and it seems to be in line with the current unwriten rules.

I didn\'t see any techniques from him in this thread, and if you were referring to his arrow comment, you were quite wrong - using magic to snag a kill from another person (when they have initiated an attack) is indeed kill stealing.

Derwoodly is referring to the numerous other threads where I\'ve given instructions on how to attack NPCs using hotkeys and shortcuts.

I feel that even though these techniques aren\'t related to role-playing, they should be widely known so that everyone is on an equal playing field.

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by zanzibar
Derwoodly is referring to the numerous other threads where I\'ve given instructions on how to attack NPCs using hotkeys and shortcuts.

Thanks, had a feeling I was misunderstanding it.

Lazaro: There have been many discussions in the past concerning spawns and how to make them interesting - search through the Wishlist sometime if you\'re in the mood to read :)