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Halomanstar

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Pretty fun but...
« on: January 31, 2006, 01:05:53 am »
Don\'t get me wrong, I love this game!But, it seems pretty hard to get anywhere being such a low level.Do you think you could give me any general hints?Let me know if you do.

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2006, 01:10:59 am »
If you can offer me a good explanation of why you posted this in the \"Roleplaying (Communitive Storywriting)\" section of the forum, I will give you a box of cookies ;)

Have you tried reading the Newbie Section? There are guides and FAQs marked as Important just for such reasons, you know.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 01:16:40 am »
Because I know that more people go here:)

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2006, 01:19:48 am »
Really? ;) The Roleplay section of the forum has 561 threads. Newbie Help has 2411, and General Discussion 3104. I\'m curious how you measured such a thing.

Regardless, the stickies should help you in most things.

*edit* I don\'t really have to mention that trying to post in awkward places just for more attention is a bad idea, right? :P
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2006, 02:13:46 am »
i would go to the sewers and kill rats.

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2006, 02:34:52 am »
I made a couple of characters right out of the gate, to figure out what the different choices were effecting in terms of stats.  A few simple choices in character creation can make your character very tough right out of the gate, or conversely you can make a character so weak that rats will give you a run for your money.  Without crafting being in game, I\'d suggest for the time-being, to load up on combat skills and mining when you\'re making your character.  I made a character with like, a 4 in glassblowing and no combat skills my second time out.  That was a shame.

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2006, 08:07:08 am »
You can role play.
For this you don\'t need any special skill - except *your* fantasy - or powerful char.

If you have defined a bit your character, use that as draft on which build something new, interact with other users interested in doing role play and maybe you will find some nice companion for some adventure in the sewers or in ojaveda road.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2006, 12:25:37 pm »
I have yet to see anyone role playing in this game.  I think it\'s pretty difficult to do so given the inchoate state of the game world.

Killing rats for hours on end will drive you insane, be polite and helpful and someone will give you some stuff.

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2006, 12:54:20 pm »
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I have yet to see anyone role playing in this game.  I think it\'s pretty difficult to do so given the inchoate state of the game world.

Killing rats for hours on end will drive you insane, be polite and helpful and someone will give you some stuff.


For your first point although it has gone a bit quiet since christmas you are probably looking in the wrong places.

For the second point I have/do give basic stuff to new players but is that really fair on those who do kill rats to expect it?
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2006, 01:48:41 pm »
@Halomanstar

Sam is right.  Most of us started naked and punching rats in the sewers.  That is the intended method of prgression at this time for characters that are born of the sword.  You can mine if you like however, but sometime tells me you will soon grow tired of it.

Jonah is also correct in that if you ask for help, someone will help you.  Like I said, we\'ve all been there and most agree this game is HARD on new players.  Most of us want to succeed on our own.  I did, but it took weeks to get out of the sewers.

Here is a quick DIY guide to follow:

General Notes:

Read this guide to it\'s completion for complete understanding before attempting to follow the guide.

NEVER buy a shield, as they are simply pretty things and serve no purpose other than to limit the number of attacks you can perform.  (Maybe in the future, they will have a useful purpose, but the devs have lots of other concerns as well.)

NEVER buy a claymore!  This is going to sound silly, but daggers are better than claymores.  A character trained in daggers can cut you to pieces before you can even begin to swing that beast.  

The rule of thumb for speed, lower is faster.  Think of it as how many seconds it takes to swing.

Choose a single weapon skill to train in.  Do not try to train in multiple weapons as it will take too long to become proficient in them all.  If you want to pick up secondary weapon skills, do that after you can loot gladiators.

A note about axes.  If you choose axes over swords, you only need a pair of slash 50 battle axes.  You don\'t need to sell them to buy longswords in order to kill gladiators.  I stand by my recommendation of having the minimum stats for using longswords before attempting to loot gladiators however.

Your results WILL vary.  Even I am killed for time to time by a gladiator.  If I miss several times in a row and he doesn\'t miss several times in a row...  I\'m dead.  You may be able to kill gladiators earlier, try and see.

The death realm is your friend.  Should you find yourself here, sell your looted items to the guardian.  He buys everything!  If you can loot it, he\'ll buy it.  No  other merchant is so diverse.  If you get lost down there, ask someone for help.

Quick Start Guide for the Newly Arrived.

1.  Go to sewers and kill/loot rats
2.  Go to Harnquist and sell looted items (repeat until you can buy weapons)
3.  Doesn\'t matter if you choose swords or axes, both are great choices and should fit your characters personality
4.  Daggers are also a great choice as they are FAST, but you\'re going to be training mostly in Akkaio which is difficult for the new to get to in most cases.  I\'m not going to explain this, just take my word for it.
5.  Once you have weapons, go to the arena and attempt to loot clackers.  Some will have no trouble, others are going to be clacker food
6.  If you die, back to the rats
7.  In either case, it is time to buy armor.  Ask in game.
8.  Did I say loot?  Well loot some more.
9.  Now you need a pair of real weapons.  These Harnquist specials aren\'t going to cut it anymore.  Expect to buy or loot two (2) slash 54 broadswords.  These swords will have a name of this format: broad sword, ie.  dark broad sword or fire broad sword or frosty broad sword.  These swords can be looted from Mercenaries (or rogues, but they are tricky for the new).  Expect to pay 4500 trias each.  Watch for auctions, you can get good deals.  Begging sometimes helps.
10.  Ok, now start training.  You\'ve been getting progression points as you gained experience.  These points are spent on training to develop your character.  
11.  I must now point out the goal of my guide - to loot gladiators - once you can loot them, your problems are solved.  
12.  With that goal in mind, we look at item 9 in more depth.  To the goals end, you need to train STR to 85 min.  You need to train light armor to 10 and sword to 10.  It also wouldn\'t hurt to have and endurance of 85 min.
13.  Why 85 STR?  Because once you have it, you\'re going to sell those broads and buy slash 44 longswords.
14.  Got your longswords?  Good, go loot the Kran Gladiators.  Attack from behind.  It may not be an actuallity, but it seems to me that I can get a good hit in before they can turn around completely and return fire.
15.  Looting gladiators is about speed.  You need to lay down as much firepower as you can before they get a chance to hit you.  If they hit you, you\'re going to have a long walk ahead of you in most cases.

Good Luck!

Wow, the QSG is longer than I expected.  I hope someone finds it useful.

Final thought:  This is a role playing game.  You are supposed to interact with other players.  That is the intention.  I think that\'s why you start naked, broke, and unarmed - to force you to interact.  You are now an actor, acting out this character.  Do what your character would do.  Find your motivation and go with it.

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2006, 02:13:14 pm »
Nice post, Araye!
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2006, 03:20:47 pm »
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Final thought:  This is a role playing game.  You are supposed to interact with other players.  That is the intention.  I think that\'s why you start naked, broke, and unarmed - to force you to interact.  You are now an actor, acting out this character.  Do what your character would do.  Find your motivation and go with it.



I am all about role playing, I think it\'s fun, I just think it\'s very difficult, currently, in this game.  The writers of this game have obviously put a lot of energy and creativity into the background of the game world, and I think it\'s great work and very original, but the way the game is currently laid out, with all its bugs and potholes and so on, it is simply not immersive enough for me to really get into a role.   I encounter people who attempt to initiate some kind of role playing with me, but it is so dissociated from the actual game play, so fragmented and unrooted in the things around me, that I just can\'t get into it.   Also, since there is the threat of being wiped, I do NOT want to fall in love with my character.  :(

I actually did spend a lot of time killing rats.  After hours of killing rats I think I made a thousand tria or something.  All that becomes kind of silly when you meet someone who has made literally millions from a quest bug.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2006, 09:28:04 pm »
@Jonah

I do understand your frustration with the bugs and possibility of a wipe.  But the bugs are one of the main driving forces behind a wipe.  The devs however, do not want to wipe the game.  They do everything they can to prevent it.  I saw them last night scouring the database for these bugs and have taken some of the unbalancing things out of the game manually.  Just to prevent a wipe.  The devs are players too.

But to many of the role players point of view, you can still develop the history and motivation for your character that will live on beyond the wipe(s).  Your character will become part of the history of planeshift.  I\'m sure there is even a way to incorporate the wipe(s) into the story lines.

And the historians only record that which has past; we write the present and shape the future.

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2006, 12:59:22 am »
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But to many of the role players point of view, you can still develop the history and motivation for your character that will live on beyond the wipe(s).  Your character will become part of the history of planeshift.  I\'m sure there is even a way to incorporate the wipe(s) into the story lines.

And the historians only record that which has past; we write the present and shape the future.

Araye



I think that\'s a good point.  I guess I have been a little frustrated by what I perceive as the limitations of what my role can possibly be when I\'m just standing in front of a respawn point and hacking away.   Maybe as I spend more time in the game I\'ll get into things more.

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2006, 02:21:24 pm »
PERSONALLY I don\'t care if I\'m at a low level because I\'m happy enough just to walk around and oggle at everything because planeshift is just TOO DAMN BEAUTIFUL!
and the music... makes me want to have lived in medieval times explored such wonderful places....
You don\'t see alot of what you see in Planeshift anywhere else...