We Need Info On Alignment

[Sangwa]

Yes, you haven\'t seen the last of this.

Anyway, I\'ve made this new post because I have rethinked my Wish and I no longer think we need any kind of alignment system.
My wish now is about having people informed about PS\'s choice towards the existence, lack or inovation towards this issue.

I recommend that the Developers of this beautiful game find a place to inform people about PS\'s Developers Team option towards the existence, or lack, of any kind of Alignment/Reputation System.
I think we should have the information on the Website or in the Client itself (under /help, or at Character Generation.)

\"WHY?\"
First, because it\'s my opinion that most roleplayers are used to alignment systems and upon joining a MMORPG each player refers to the alignment system it has been used to and the interpretation it makes of said system. This usually spawns conflicts and pointless discussions about Alignments. We\'re all familiar to them.

Second, new players might be encouraged to claim they\'re evil or good, disregarding whatever player constructed perspectives there might exist, since they see other players already discussing and giving importance to words such as \"Good\" and \"Evil\".
This goes against one of PS\'s objectives: to be \"realistic.\" In a realistic set you don\'t go around saying that you\'re Good or Evil and considering that everyone has to fall into this description. If the humanoids have a psyche similar to ours, then the need for self indulgence spawns more than two sides, and battles aren\'t fought for the sake of Good or Evil, but for the sake of these self indulgences.

Third, having players informed is rarely a bad option, since it instructs towards a better interaction between themselves and the enviroment created.

PS: I created this thread because the original one got consumed by irrelevant discussions, which would bother the readers.
Let me be clearer this time: Do not discuss alignments, or alignment systems, or reputation systems or anything that doesn\'t have to do with the necessity of being informed about PS\'s choice towards alignments.
Geez, I hope I\'ve been clear.

[Sangwa]

I shall use Ylikone\'s list and Sov\'s guild list to further my arguments, in this double post.

Analysing these two lists we can see that they both use an alignments system. It seems to be similar to the Dungeon & Dragon one.
Anywho, why would they do that? Because PS doesn\'t inform the players about the existence or lack of a PS alignment system and so players act on their lack of information, adopting systems alien to the game.

Sure I would do the same. But using alignment systems with uncertain sources might contribute to needless tiring discussions between players.

[Astenorh Dunkel]

Also reputation could be good.

[Sangwa]

Let me be clearer this time: Do not discuss alignments, or alignment systems, or reputation systems or anything that doesn\'t have to do with the necessity of being informed about PS\'s choice towards alignments.

I\'m starting to get hopeless.

Maybe I\'m asking too much. Oh wait. I\'m not... It\'s just some louzy words somewhere to have everyone forget about the alignment thing once and for all -_-

But I guess people would rather have alignment discussions all over than discuss the solution for them...

[Shadowcast]

From my understanding, you want an ooc source for alignment and reputation. But isnt ooc stuff what we are trying to get rid of? If someone is real \'good or evil\' ig then his name will spread and so will his story, which most likely will change as it gets passed on. This would be more realistic, because it also would let the players decide who is good and evil and will spread like in rl.

Now for the alignments of guilds, they shouldnt change because they are important. It helps people decide better and can make it easier to understand their true ways.

[Cha0s]

Read his post more carefully, Shadowcast. He is advocating for an official notice somewhere that there is no alignment in Planeshift. This is, as he said, realistic. The guilds pages need to remove that section. People should determine IC whether to join guilds from their description and what people say about them IC in-game.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Astenorh Dunkel
Also reputation could be good.

No times a hundred, and we already had a huge thread about how bad an idea that is.  And please don\'t hijack Sangwa\'s thread; start your own.

[Sangwa]

Exactly like Chaos said. It would be nice if players were motivated not to use systems that do not belong to the game. It would add to Planeshift\'s unique status.

And that can be done by making sure players know PS has no alignment system. (Or that PS has one, should they wish to create one.)