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« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2006, 05:23:23 pm »
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 I just don\'t like the fact that you can go to your local supermarket and buy some bullets. Still I do not hate the US. When I said that education there is bad I mean the High Schools.


Fair enough.  At least that is a real reason.  I disagree with you about gun control (note: I neither own nor know how to shoot a gun, probably never will), but that is really just personal preference.  As for the High Schools, they are mainly what I was talking about.

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, I think he has some really valid points, especially about the fact that you can buy guns everywhere. As a european who has never in his life seen or heard a gun, that just scares me.


Again, I can\'t argue with this, but it\'s not really what you said at the beginning.  I\'m just saying don\'t believe the statistics, not that you can\'t agree with the idea behind them.


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About the gym classes, you can tell from them how much the school cares for its students. In my opinion every self-respecting school shouldn\'t give bowling as gym class, I mean, you wouldn\'t want to make people fat and unhealthy, do you? And the languages, it\'s really handy you know, even latin, you can derive many words from Latin and you\'ll finally know what those strange words on a medicine mean. But the most important thing about latin of course is that you\'ll be able to translate Acraigs signature :D


I can see their use, I\'m still of the opinion it really has no bearing on \"education\", because you can still LEARN them...it is just not required in schools.  Also, for the record, I\'ve never seen bowling taught in High School though I know it is in some college\'s.  Which is reasonable, after all, you are paying an incredible amount of money so you should be able to choose your classes.


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Just google ofcourse, and you\'ll see how many people use ofcourse, that confused me. I searched a dictionary for of course, but it automatically ignored the of and searched for course. Thanks for the answer and the website.


Ah, well since \"of\" and \"course\" are two seperate words it won\'t show up in a dictionary.  That is why I like spellcheck, it can check a lot of words at once.

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« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2006, 07:56:09 pm »
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2 people who don\'t eat meat (my dad is a butcher  ;) and it\'s completely natural)




It\'s not natural.  We can\'t digest meat properly.  It\'s cruel to animals.  It\'s unhealthy.  Just because something is natural, doesn\'t make it right.  We\'re human beings, we have the mental capacity to choose.  It\'s immoral.  It\'s not environmentally friendly.  Raising livestock wastes water and grain.  It pollutes fresh water resources.  It\'s destroying the rain forest.  It\'s causing an obesity epidemic.


And so on.
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« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2006, 08:12:49 pm »
And oh Zanzibar, I guess I am the incarnation of evil on earth for not feeling guilty with every bite of meat I eat.

No really the human is an omnivore, crap you dont go and cry about all the poor plancton that gets eaten by whales.

On another thought, Brocolli\'s a live-form to, as every other vegetable or fruit, so yeah should we all starve to death because not doing so would be immoral?
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« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2006, 08:15:43 pm »
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And oh Zanzibar, I guess I am the incarnation of evil on earth for not feeling guilty with every bite of meat I eat.




You do evil things, but I don\'t think that you\'re evil.  You\'re just wilfully ignorant.
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« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2006, 08:19:34 pm »
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And oh Zanzibar, I guess I am the incarnation of evil on earth for not feeling guilty with every bite of meat I eat.




You do evil things, but I don\'t think that you\'re evil.  You\'re just wilfully ignorant.


Maybe so, but I do quite fine that way.

Ignorance is the greatest gift of the human races. Without it it would devour itself because of guilt.

Well still the question stands, isnt it immoral to eat brocolli?

What some people seem to oversee is that humanity is part of nature.
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« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2006, 08:22:18 pm »
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And oh Zanzibar, I guess I am the incarnation of evil on earth for not feeling guilty with every bite of meat I eat.




You do evil things, but I don\'t think that you\'re evil.  You\'re just wilfully ignorant.


Maybe so, but I do quite fine that way.

Ignorance is the greatest gift of the human races. Without it it would devour itself because of guilt.

Well still the question stands, isnt it immoral to eat brocolli?




Brocolli doesn\'t have conciousness.

Like I said, you\'re wilfully ignorant.  Your actions hurt others as well as yourself, and you pride yourself in not caring.  There are other words to describe that mentality...
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« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2006, 08:22:32 pm »
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« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2006, 08:23:53 pm »
This isn\'t a discussion about politics, vegetarianism/veganism, etc. Somehow this always happens, and it doesn\'t end nicely. Cyl, if you want an answer to that, just seach online. Seriously :P There are way too many arguments made out there to drag them into here, too. If you want I\'ll even give you links.


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« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2006, 02:28:21 am »
On America:  

Yes, we are a violent gun obsessed culture.  I don\'t particularly see this as all that bad.  Statistically it\'s a drop in the bucket compared to the fact that we\'re a car obsessed culture.   Dying in a car accident, or being hit as a pedestrian is what you should be worrying about statistically speaking.  This applies no matter where you live.

Please don\'t confuse ignorance with stupidity.  The first is ostensibly easier to correct.

On pole-arms:

Technically, a spear is a subset of pole arms.  I would probably consider there to be four different pole-arm fighting skills depending on whether it was optimized to being used for stabbing, swinging blade, swinging hammer, or pulling to dismount riders.  Also, tactically most of the longer pole arms require formations to use effectively, which is another seperate skill from fighting out of formation

On vegetarianism:

I was a vegetarian for two years, and while I agree that it would probably be environmentally, and economically beneficial for everyone to switch over.  I found it to be incompatible with being a Type I diabetic and controlling my blood sugars.  

There are environmental niches where meat raising is possible where crop farming probably wouldn\'t be without a lot more cheap labor ( hillsides where terrace farming is not easy ).

I never really got into the issue from a moral standpoint.  I mean, I don\'t think about swatting flies or eradicating cockroaches.  Life is cruel sometimes.  Should we care about every life equally?

On things I hate:

Polemicism, fanatacism, and zealotry.

Ultra-nationalism.  Anti-ecumenicalism.
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« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2006, 02:51:36 am »
There\'s a bit of a difference between a fly and a pig or cow.


Cats and dogs are practically family members, but people will take a baby cow, seperate it from its mother,  and stick it in a dark cage until it\'s time to slaughter it and make veal.
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« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2006, 03:06:36 am »
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There\'s a bit of a difference between a fly and a pig or cow.


Cats and dogs are practically family members, but people will take a baby cow, seperate it from its mother,  and stick it in a dark cage until it\'s time to slaughter it and make veal.

from a chirstian standpoint I have everyright to eat any animal.

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« Reply #86 on: February 24, 2006, 03:28:15 am »
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There\'s a bit of a difference between a fly and a pig or cow.

Sure there\'s a difference.  Is it a difference of degree or kind?  I\'ve noticed that cuteness seems to play more of a role in the treatment of animals than intelligence or consciousness.  My feeling is that any distinction made between what is morally edible or not is in the end going to be an arbitrary boundary rather than a clear ethical one.   I feel similarly about ethical boundaries for when a fetus is a life, and actually see a lot of parallels.

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\"Then God said, \'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.\'\"

from a christian standpoint you have dominion over the animal kingdom ( as an aside one could argue that there is an implicit exception here for whales and dolphins, but I\'d say that for the purpose of this quote they are fish ).   Christian moral philosophers have argued the point of christian stewarship, which implies that you have responsibilities to the animal kingdom and the earth as part of this concept.  Would you argue that you have the right to kill and torture animals purposelessly, or only for the purposes of feeding the hungry and clothing the needy?  What if it turns out that animals have souls, would we have more responsibility toward them from a christian perspective?
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« Reply #87 on: February 24, 2006, 03:44:51 am »
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This isn\'t a discussion about politics, vegetarianism/veganism, etc. Somehow this always happens, and it doesn\'t end nicely. Cyl, if you want an answer to that, just seach online. Seriously :P There are way too many arguments made out there to drag them into here, too. If you want I\'ll even give you links.



If you\'re going to allow this thread, you\'ve got to realize people are going to defend something they like while other people \"hate\" it.

Hate:
1. Depressing/whiny/pessimistic lyrics.
2. High-pitched singing.
3. Beef (Not all meat, just beef.)
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« Reply #88 on: February 24, 2006, 03:50:05 am »
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If you\'re going to allow this thread, you\'ve got to realize people are going to defend something they like while other people \"hate\" it.


Indeed, I\'m just hoping it won\'t become a messy ordeal that will take over pages. I think my comment came too early; sorry about that.
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« Reply #89 on: February 24, 2006, 03:50:12 am »
what a nice little, heated discussion you\'re all having n_n! *drippy sunshine*

i will add in my two cents now >:|

1 and 2. I hate everything ugly.
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