Your 3 most hated THINGS

[nightstalian]

Nightstalian,

\"Then God said, \'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.\'\"

from a christian standpoint you have dominion over the animal kingdom ( as an aside one could argue that there is an implicit exception here for whales and dolphins, but I\'d say that for the purpose of this quote they are fish ).   Christian moral philosophers have argued the point of christian stewarship, which implies that you have responsibilities to the animal kingdom and the earth as part of this concept.  Would you argue that you have the right to kill and torture animals purposelessly, or only for the purposes of feeding the hungry and clothing the needy?  What if it turns out that animals have souls, would we have more responsibility toward them from a christian perspective?
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not toture, never torture animal only kill what you need to survive, NA philosophy
only kill to eat to clothe to shleter,
 most would agree on that.

and on topic,
running out of things that I can say I hate

[ThomPhoenix]

Raising livestock wastes water and grain. It pollutes fresh water resources. It\'s destroying the rain forest. It\'s causing an obesity epidemic.

You can say the exact same thing about eating vegetables. Most of the rainforest is destroyed for either wood or farmland, only a small part for cattle. And meat is not causing obesity, most people don\'t know or are just being willfully ignorant but a good beef consists of very little fat. Obesity is much more caused because of sweets, candy, cookies, chips, cola and all the rest of that sugar crap.
Not to forget frites and those microwave meals from the freezer. Oh, and vegetables also require lots of resources, not to forget loads of poison to kill insects.

[Father Sengus]

1, I hate it when I\'m whistling and someone standing nearby gets the idea that he should join in, though not with the same tune. What gives you the right to remix my tune?

2, I hate words like neverending, infinity, eternity. They try to fool you by sounding cool but are really scary. What do you mean \"infinity\"? There has to be an end to everything!!!

3, I hate having to wash my mouth (lips) after eating chicken or something oily, and feeling how the whole area around my mouth gets oily as well. It makes me feel like a 1-year-old who still believes that you eat with your face...

There\'s too much evil in this world...
*tries to think a happy thought*

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by ThomPhoenix

Raising livestock wastes water and grain. It pollutes fresh water resources. It\'s destroying the rain forest. It\'s causing an obesity epidemic.

You can say the exact same thing about eating vegetables.

You are absolutely wrong.



\"Another price we pay for meat eating is degradation of the environment. The heavily contaminated run-off from thousands of slaughterhouses and feedlots is a major source of water pollution. In their book \"Population, Resources and Environment\", Paul and Anne Ehrlich found that to grow one pound of wheat requires only 60 pounds of water, whereas production of a pound of meat requires anywhere from 2,500 to 6,000 pounds of water.\"

(http://krishna.org/ctfote/cow.html)

[ThomPhoenix]

Erm, that website is from the Hare Krishna movement and thus in my opinion not very trustworthy.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by ThomPhoenix
Erm, that website is from the Hare Krishna movement and thus in my opinion not very trustworthy.

Christian, Muslim, Hare Krishna, it\'s all the same to me.




http://www.mobileveggiefood.co.uk/FACTS.HTM

http://www.yellins.com/veg/vegetarian_facts.html

http://www.animalconnectiontx.org/food/vegfacts.htm




The information is repeated on those websites.  Meat = over ten times as much water consumed compared to veggie diets.

[ThomPhoenix]

All those websites are vegetarian websites, can you also provide me with an objective website?  

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by ThomPhoenix
All those websites are vegetarian websites, can you also provide me with an objective website?  

That\'s like saying that a website on black holes isn\'t \"objective\" because the information comes from astronomers.

[ThomPhoenix]

But you would be able to read their research.
Those vegetarian websites have got to get their numbers from some scientific research, I\'d like to see it.
But I have a slight feeling we\'re going off-topic  
I said eating meat was natural, which it is, considering we\'ve been doing it for thousands of years. If it\'s good or not, that\'s a completely other thing. I\'m sure vegetarianism is better for nature than omnivorism, but it surely isn\'t holy. If everyone on the planet would eat as much as we \"civilised\" people do, we would be in deep trouble, even if everyone were to be vegetarian  

Now go seed the new client!  

[zanzibar]

Rape is also natural and is observed in primates.  That doesn\'t make it right.

[ThomPhoenix]

Raping - Eating
Apples - Banana\'s


Let\'s call it a draw, you can\'t convince me and I can\'t convince you. Let everyone who reads this discussion form his own opinion and let\'s get on-topic again. This is the 3 most hated things thread. If we don\'t watch out Karyuu will slap us.  

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by ThomPhoenix
Raping - Eating
Apples - Banana\'s


Let\'s call it a draw, you can\'t convince me and I can\'t convince you. Let everyone who reads this discussion form his own opinion and let\'s get on-topic again. This is the 3 most hated things thread. If we don\'t watch out Karyuu will slap us.  

Dude.  You said that eating meat is good because it\'s natural.  Well, rape is natural.  Are you saying that rape is a good thing?  No, you aren\'t.  No one in their right mind is.

Being natural doesn\'t make something good.

[ThomPhoenix]

People eat meat, animals eat meat, it\'s part of the circle of life! That\'s what I meant, rape isn\'t part of the circle of life. When I said that eating meat is natural I didn\'t immediately imply that every kind of animal or human behaviour is natural or good too. Look, let\'s just drop this, okay?

[Mindari]

1) lists containing more than one item

[HarenaAbdolor]

Originally posted by Kiern

Originally posted by ThomPhoenix
1 Education there is really bad compared to Europe,
Bush even proposed in his State of the Union to cut down on the education expenses to increase the defense expenses! Wow, that\'ll really do the US good...
2 The huge and enormous murder rate, watch Bowling for Columbine for more info. Really, in the 17 years that I live I can only think of 1 guy being killed in my region.

You know, this all depends on where you live.  Of all the places I go to regularly, none of this is true.  Education is great, the schools are very competitive, and everyone can generally spell well.  As far as murder goes, where I am currently living in Texas, I can\'t remember a murder in the last few years.  And my previous home I\'m pretty sure there was NEVER a murder.  Just use common sense (which I hope you would anyways), don\'t go in the bad part of town if there is one, etc..and you have absolutely nothing to fear.  In fact probably less, depending on your age and gender.  I go all over the place in Texas, and have never ran into any real trouble.

Unfortunately people like to listen to biased statistics that wouldn\'t effect you if you actually came here, or listen to the television.

I\'m sorry but schooling in America is really bad.  I think it is both a societal, moral, and political failure really.  Kids today in America do not generally care about doing their best.  The majority that I have known are cheaters that would do anything to get ahead without doing any work.  Many are also ignorant and feel like they have to give their brainless opinion on everything even though they don\'t understand it... Abortion, gay rights, cloning, etc.
There are certainly people in America who are not brainless idiots, but unfortunately they are not shown.  It is the people that the inteligent Americans complain about, that the rest of the world also complains about.
It isn\'t their fault that those people exist.  I personally blame the capitalist nature of the govenment that drives the moral decline.  

I\'m sorry for the long rant. ^.^\' Bad day you know, but that is how I feel... unrestrained.

-Harena