Your 3 most hated THINGS

[Sharakaz]

Originally posted by HarenaAbdolor
Can we NOT bring god into this?!!! Baseing your justifications on religion are not well founded when people do not share the same ideology.  So please keep that in mind.

Harena

Amen..

[nightstalian]

Originally posted by zanzibar

No, because the way people eat meat is incredibly unhealthy.  Plus, meat and meat products contain complex carbohydrates that we can\'t properly digest, and there\'s all the chemicals and steroids and pus and blood and disease.  Give me a plate full of tofu any day!

(And if you think that soy is too expensive... tell that to the Chinese!)

Excuse me but I tend to eat very healthy, when it comes to meat, I don\'t eat alot of fried foods tend to increase my acne, I tned to eat my eat with vegies herbs and spices, expect for steak whitch I eat grilled with pastal,

and if you think vegiterism is good for moral reason then who\'s not ot say that plants have souls and feelings too

Originally posted by Sharakaz

Originally posted by HarenaAbdolor
Can we NOT bring god into this?!!! Baseing your justifications on religion are not well founded when people do not share the same ideology.  So please keep that in mind.

Harena

Amen..

 I just thought this was ironic,

and on topic
when people make fun of my speech impediment, even if they\'re just joking

[Jakob]

Vegetables aren\'t food... They\'re food\'s food...
Sorry, I couldn\'t resist...  I don\'t have anything against vegetarianism.  One of my best friends is vegetarian so herbivores and omnivores can live together in harmony, but I can\'t imagine how boring it would be to be one of them people who won\'t eat eggs or dairt products either...

[Grindalyx]

Well, I try to not hate, but these are the things that I currently dislike a great deal.

1. Discrimination.
2. Men.
3. Insomnia.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by nightstalian
who\'s not ot say that plants have souls and feelings too

Who will say that plants aren\'t sentient?  Anyone with a brain, for starters.

Originally posted by Jakob
Vegetables aren\'t food... They\'re food\'s food...
Sorry, I couldn\'t resist...  I don\'t have anything against vegetarianism.  One of my best friends is vegetarian so herbivores and omnivores can live together in harmony, but I can\'t imagine how boring it would be to be one of them people who won\'t eat eggs or dairt products either...

My diet isn\'t at all boring when I don\'t want it to be.  Even when it is boring - beans, rice, and vegetables - I think that there\'s a certain spiritual advantage to it.

[Aznakh]

Also, for the record, I\'ve never seen bowling taught in High School though I know it is in some college\'s. Which is reasonable, after all, you are paying an incredible amount of money so you should be able to choose your classes.

Well that is the major difference between the European and the American education system.
In the US you are a \"client\" of the education establishment. (be it a college or high school). Which means that the school in question has to make money, e.g. be profitable since it is a business. A lot of American schools will overgrade their students in order to keep the \"grade quota\" up, despite the fact that the students in question lack the skill.
In the EU the education system is free, which means that everybody can get in and the school is not run like a business. However, it is a highly competitive system where the students have to have the skill in order to earn their grades and they have to study hard in order not to get dropped out of the system.
Also the student does not get to choose his classes, but follows a program layed out by his country\'s education ministery, and encompasses a very broad range of classes. The student will specialize more towards the end of his secondary school career and in university.

Also, keep in mind that our government and country is still in its younger stages in the passages of time. When was the last time you met a 5 year old that didn\'t grate on your nerves fairly often that wasn\'t you child?

All right ... I agree that you cannot compare the history of the US with the history of Europe. Europe was forged on blood and is way more mature today.
But the US is a dangerous child with couple of nuclear bombs and a bunch of complete idiots at the top.
What really outrages me is that the US gets involved in other sovereign countries internal policies. X(


now back to the topic:

1. Selfish people
2. Egocentric people
3. Argentinian crooks

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Aznakh
Well that is the major difference between the European and the American education system.
In the US you are a \"client\" of the education establishment. (be it a college or high school). Which means that the school in question has to make money, e.g. be profitable since it is a business. A lot of American schools will overgrade their students in order to keep the \"grade quota\" up, despite the fact that the students in question lack the skill.
In the EU the education system is free, which means that everybody can get in and the school is not run like a business. However, it is a highly competitive system where the students have to have the skill in order to earn their grades and they have to study hard in order not to get dropped out of the system.
Also the student does not get to choose his classes, but follows a program layed out by his country\'s education ministery, and encompasses a very broad range of classes. The student will specialize more towards the end of his secondary school career and in university.

As far as college\'s go you may have a good point.  I think it is really up to preference though because I like the system we have here.  If I choose to go to college, I\'m going to want to choose my classes and I am not going to like people telling me what I can and can\'t take.  There is a core curriculum here, but really those classes don\'t matter much and can be completed before your second semester of college.

[nightstalian]

Originally posted by Aznakh

Also, for the record, I\'ve never seen bowling taught in High School though I know it is in some college\'s. Which is reasonable, after all, you are paying an incredible amount of money so you should be able to choose your classes.

Well that is the major difference between the European and the American education system.
In the US you are a \"client\" of the education establishment. (be it a college or high school). Which means that the school in question has to make money, e.g. be profitable since it is a business. A lot of American schools will overgrade their students in order to keep the \"grade quota\" up, despite the fact that the students in question lack the skill.
In the EU the education system is free, which means that everybody can get in and the school is not run like a business. However, it is a highly competitive system where the students have to have the skill in order to earn their grades and they have to study hard in order not to get dropped out of the system.
Also the student does not get to choose his classes, but follows a program layed out by his country\'s education ministery, and encompasses a very broad range of classes. The student will specialize more towards the end of his secondary school career and in university.

Also, keep in mind that our government and country is still in its younger stages in the passages of time. When was the last time you met a 5 year old that didn\'t grate on your nerves fairly often that wasn\'t you child?

All right ... I agree that you cannot compare the history of the US with the history of Europe. Europe was forged on blood and is way more mature today.
But the US is a dangerous child with couple of nuclear bombs and a bunch of complete idiots at the top.
What really outrages me is that the US gets involved in other sovereign countries internal policies. X(


now back to the topic:

1. Selfish people
2. Egocentric people
3. Argentinian crooks

only private schools and colleges require you to pay money directly too them, if public it goes through taxes.

and on topic
love when it breaks your heart.

[StarsAndBars_1018]

Damn, too bad the list is restricted to 3:

1. Political correctness.
2. Those that would sicken or destroy my way of life, in any respect.
3. When the water goes ice cold as I\'m taking a shower.

(and an honorable mention goes to \"Moral Supremacy\" )

Originally posted by Grindalyx
1. Discrimination.
2. Men.

*cough*hypocrite*cough*

[Baldur]

OK, why\'s this 7-8 pages wide? Hate (-threads) produces Hate (-posts) so please don\'t post more.

Many already \"hate\" each other for hating others and that\'s just bad.

Please don\'t post here anymore. I don\'t want this to be bigger as it (literally) is a pack\'a hatred. Now throw away package and don\'t moan on unsettled differences. We should have fun in this place instead of pulling in the darkest sides of humanity(hate = you dislike people when you haven\'t got enough facts).

I believe we make our own reality. We should all trust each other (distant, very distant dream) and if we wanna do that we shouldn\'t give a damn about our differences. Try to ask yourself why you you hate this/that person/country/culture/whateva!*me gasps*

We shouldn\'t give a sh*t! Giving a sh*t about other\'s differences and abnormalities just leads to people feeling bad(about themselves*why do I look like this**where they right?Am i not beautiful, do i look like a freak?*

OK, i guess i went a bit offtopic(don\'t mind the second time will ya, hehe) but i\'m saying we shouldn\'t speak of what our inner hatreds are. This is a fun forum and you will, in time, find out why you hated this and hated that and see that there was nothing, pure air. Every hatred is built on pure air in the end. Humans make faults, which can be misinterpreted.

That is, for example, black americans: Through the 16th and the middle of the 17th century black people were considered as property to their white \"owners\". They worked on the cotton fields, picking cotton day and evening being wipped by their landlords to work as hard as they can, just like they whip a horse(though more vile, and harder). During that century the black humans in america were considered thieving(might be, but what did they have to eat other then a small plate of soop for the whole family), and dirty creaures not even deserving a place in the pig-stie(How could they have gotten clean when they didn\'t even have a shower to go to and they sometimes had to work in the mud during the raining period)

The black people where liberated, though the victory was short as they now where used to working, with no education and no certain funds. What would they do? Back to work at the factories under lusy conditions. They were considered as to be the \"under-class\" amongst the white, just as cleaners and garbage are to us today.

The black men and women get partial education leading ot that black children can go to seperate \"black\" schools. Small parts of America\'s black population are educated and many others follow the ingrown tradition of being workers.

The students can\'t get jobs because of their skin color. Those who get one are often harassed by prejudicial white people who hate them.

Today the black people have come long in \"integrating into society\", but there still are some scratch marks :/ So don\'t make it bad by ripping up new rifts in the globalizing world! I\'m not blaiming anyone for anything, i\'m just...Oh i don\'t know. I\'m simply trying to \"warn\" before it\'s too late(damn can\'t find the word[\"f?rebygga\" in Swedish])

*Edit* Hm, i don\'t know if I really sould have written this
[Not erasing away 1000 word post, oh no I wont ]

Oh, and sorry for the typos...

*Edit* Dang, that\'s a long post O____o

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knowitalls and smart type playing persons

[Baldur]

:/ Oh well.

[StarsAndBars_1018]

Originally posted by Baldur
OK, why\'s this 7-8 pages wide? Hate (-threads) produces Hate (-posts) so please don\'t post more.

So by that rationale, someone exercising their hatred of Sunday drivers and long lines at the grocery store is \"bad\"? What about if one of the windows of your house came down hard on your hand? Would you hate that too?

(hate = you dislike people when you haven\'t got enough facts).

That argument, in addition to being patently false and cliche, rings hollow.

if we wanna do that we shouldn\'t give a damn about our differences.

You view the issue from an unbalanced viewpoint, plus which, that isn\'t a very good path to go down in the first place. Are you sure you want to lose your identity or that of your ancestors in a swirling muck?  

Try to ask yourself why you you hate this/that person/country/culture/whateva!*me gasps*

If the answer isn\'t one that you\'re going to like, would you then fail to understand me?

We shouldn\'t give a sh*t! Giving a sh*t about other\'s differences and abnormalities just leads to people feeling bad(about themselves*why do I look like this**where they right?Am i not beautiful, do i look like a freak?*

Once again, you are viewing the issue from an unbalanced viewpoint, only focusing on a mental aspect of identity.  Those that cannot handle the implications of it are not going to be \"cured\" by forgetting its there. In my opinion, as well, they need serious help.

Identity is the greatest thing that we have going for us. As Americans are concerned, It was  such after the Revolutionary War, and will continue to be for a very long time to come.  Communism was intent on turning identity on its head, and what did that form of government get the world? Many upon many dead Slavic people.  

Are you just going to sit and idly imply that your greatest wish is for a government which in true socialist fashion exercises control over everything?

This is a fun forum and you will, in time, find out why you hated this and hated that and see that there was nothing, pure air. Every hatred is built on pure air in the end.

Mmmmhmmm. Whatever you say.

That is, for example

. . .


How could they have gotten clean when they didn\'t even have a shower to go to and they sometimes had to work in the mud during the raining period)

That is the mother of all sob stories.
As long as we\'re on how things once were, do you really think those on the American Frontier had it all that easy?

The black people where liberated

*dies laughing*

just as cleaners and garbage are to us today.

You mean just as Palestinians are to Israelis?

[Grindalyx]

Originally posted by StarsAndBars_1018
Damn, too bad the list is restricted to 3:

1. Political correctness.
2. Those that would sicken or destroy my way of life, in any respect.
3. When the water goes ice cold as I\'m taking a shower.

(and an honorable mention goes to \"Moral Supremacy\" )

Originally posted by Grindalyx
1. Discrimination.
2. Men.

*cough*hypocrite*cough*

I find it odd that you didn\'t even bother asking \"why\" i dislike men, and completely missed the fact that disliking a group for various reasons does not always lead to discrimination...

As it is, I was rather emotional when I posted that (bad break-up.. don\'t ask), but things have changed.

If I were posting it now, when I\'m less emotional and a bit more rational, men would be replaced with War.

[Baldur]

Originally posted by StarsAndBars_1018

Originally posted by Baldur
OK, why\'s this 7-8 pages wide? Hate (-threads) produces Hate (-posts) so please don\'t post more.

So by that rationale, someone exercising their hatred of Sunday drivers and long lines at the grocery store is \"bad\"? What about if one of the windows of your house came down hard on your hand? Would you hate that too?

(hate = you dislike people when you haven\'t got enough facts).

That argument, in addition to being patently false and cliche, rings hollow.

if we wanna do that we shouldn\'t give a damn about our differences.

You view the issue from an unbalanced viewpoint, plus which, that isn\'t a very good path to go down in the first place. Are you sure you want to lose your identity or that of your ancestors in a swirling muck?  

Try to ask yourself why you you hate this/that person/country/culture/whateva!*me gasps*

If the answer isn\'t one that you\'re going to like, would you then fail to understand me?

We shouldn\'t give a sh*t! Giving a sh*t about other\'s differences and abnormalities just leads to people feeling bad(about themselves*why do I look like this**where they right?Am i not beautiful, do i look like a freak?*

Once again, you are viewing the issue from an unbalanced viewpoint, only focusing on a mental aspect of identity.  Those that cannot handle the implications of it are not going to be \"cured\" by forgetting its there. In my opinion, as well, they need serious help.

Identity is the greatest thing that we have going for us. As Americans are concerned, It was  such after the Revolutionary War, and will continue to be for a very long time to come.  Communism was intent on turning identity on its head, and what did that form of government get the world? Many upon many dead Slavic people.  

Are you just going to sit and idly imply that your greatest wish is for a government which in true socialist fashion exercises control over everything?

This is a fun forum and you will, in time, find out why you hated this and hated that and see that there was nothing, pure air. Every hatred is built on pure air in the end.

Mmmmhmmm. Whatever you say.

That is, for example

. . .


How could they have gotten clean when they didn\'t even have a shower to go to and they sometimes had to work in the mud during the raining period)

That is the mother of all sob stories.
As long as we\'re on how things once were, do you really think those on the American Frontier had it all that easy?

The black people where liberated

*dies laughing*

just as cleaners and garbage are to us today.

You mean just as Palestinians are to Israelis?

I\'m sorry if this upset you. It wasn\'t really meant to.

1. I was a bit untactical, yes. It was misentrerpreted there. I forgot to take that into account, and yes, that\'s good. Sure, it\'s ok to \"hate\" things, though i think hate is a too strong word.

2. Might be, but i\'m only mentioning one side of the \"word\". There are many sides of hate, i know that. Atm i\'m emotional and i shouldn\'t have written this post, every time i write posts i regret it I must confess, and i\'m always afraid of getting flamed :S

3. Our ancestors are also a way to declare war, because of earlier conflicts and differences when we knew less, which not many like i believe, though they can bring good too like architecture, art, inventions and knowledge, though cultures and ancestors aren\'t all that matters when it comes to culture and inventions. It\'s about the humans. You identity is created by you, it shouldn\'t really be created by your ancestors cause they\'re not you.

4. No, i wouldn\'t fail to understand you. I would just think there is a reason behind this as there is a reason behind anything, so don\'t get me wrong.

5. Once again(first time though lol.) I\'m no communist, i don\'t want people to work for alike salories, being able to slack while you get the same salory as all the working guys. I want democracy. No racial differences(ancestor conflicts), sex issues etc, you just get what you work for. So, if you don\'t work, you get nil! K?

6. I\'m not talking about the Frontiers. The black people were there too, fighting with the whites so that seems to have nothign to do with it. Mark me if i\'m wrong. As i\'ve seen it the black and the white people were quite equal out there in the battlefields to fight for their survival. And that is no sob-story, that\'s reality, life.

7. If you want to laugh some more you may have seen i was ironic when I wrote that. Read a bit closer and you will see the irony. Being \"freed\" and then sent back to the cotton fields because of lack of money. \"Liberation\" have many definitions from \"them no longer being slaves in juridic meaning and then going back to \"work\" \" or \"them getting own farms\". That\'s two definitions of liberation and there are more.

8. What about palestinians and israelis? I\'m talking about \"classes\" in society and not two cultures at war with each other. No, not israelis and palestinians.

Edit: God! Typos!-.- Sorry for the mess.
Edit: Made some changes in the text once i\'d calmed down