Best Friend Syndrome

[Karyuu]

Hormones.

Hormones hormones hormones. Repeat after me :)

Seriously - you think it\'s noble and powerful, but when you\'re in your teens, it\'s just being a dreamer. I hated hearing that, but it took a while to realize just how right that is. You shouldn\'t be ready to die for anything at your age. Our age.

Did you ever answer the question of how long you knew this girl?

[nightstalian]

Originally posted by Karyuu
Hormones.

Hormones hormones hormones. Repeat after me

Seriously - you think it\'s noble and powerful, but when you\'re in your teens, it\'s just being a dreamer. I hated hearing that, but it took a while to realize just how right that is. You shouldn\'t be ready to die for anything at your age. Our age.

Did you ever answer the question of how long you knew this girl?

Are you saying love has to be at an age now to be consider love, are you saying I\'m to young to die, to young too believe in something strong enough to die, Are you saying I\'m to young to know the meaning of love.
I gurentie you that age has no bounderies for love, and that you are a bigot not of race or gender but of age, truly this sounds true to you. I live and work through life believing that I try to do the best things possible most of the time.  Sure I may not not, or may, have some more wisdom then someone out older then me but the truth is that love is somthing out there that anyone can feel, regardless of there age.

[Karyuu]

I still maintain that it\'s infatuation :) So how long have you known the girl, again?

[nightstalian]

Originally posted by Karyuu
I still maintain that it\'s infatuation So how long have you known the girl, again?

half a year, how long does it take to know a person=never how long does it take to feel=imeditatly
how long does it take to know how you feel=depends

but this largly depends on what type of person you are I am a Chirstian
So I believe in Predestitnation, and God giving us a \"free will\"
So what do I believe? I believe life is just a huge RPG

[steuben]

feeling it isn\'t the hard part. it\'s knowing what to do with the damned thing once you\'ve got it. love must be termpered with wisdom, either earned or borrowed. it must be alloyed with repsect all four ways. and it is truely crafted the best, either by skilled hands or not, from stock of a solid friendship. but, sometimes there are just some pieces that cannot be worked as you like. sometimes you can only tell by trying. such is the price of the craft.

whether it is a finished work, or it slowly reduced to slag, move forward. try the next peice. bear it in mind, but do not let it hold back your hand. a hesitant hammer blow in the right place on cooling metal, can be worse then the sure one in the wrong place.

*wonders how much longer he can keep up the smithing metphor. nope, guess not much longer.*

that and there is, as hard as it maybe to beleive, a much better social life after high school.

[Vaylos]

Ah, the good ole love discussion. *hops in and stirs up the coals*

On a more serious note, it\'s my opinion that all teenagedom is basically a giant testing ground. Sure, as I\'ve grown up, I had a crush or two, but I held off on diving in to make sure they were single, and to make sure there was potential for reciprocating feelings.  Alas, such was not the case. (they were all taken grrr) So, the next several years, I just kinda stayed a loner...especially during the couple years I transferred to UNF since I didn\'t really know anyone, and i\'m not the social type.

Couple years later, got an e-mail from some girl off a dating site (had a profile so I could mess around with the quizzes...yeah...you know you do them too, so shaddap )  Anyways, thought I deleted all my profiles, but I guess I missed one, or it got bought out by a different site. Anyhoo, she was a local girl, nice looking, seemed intelligent and nice, so I decided to say what the hell, and give it a try.

End result:  a year and a half, still going strong, going out with a girl who went to the Northwest School for the Arts for her highschool, and she\'s currently working on her Ph.D. in neuroscience at UF.

My point? You just never really know what could happen a couple years down the road.

As for my actual views on love...it\'s not so much about sacrificing yourself.  I mean sure...  -anyone- would do everything they can to help the people they care about. This is true for friends, family, and your significant other. However, my girlfriend and I are equals. Neither of us values one over the other.  We\'re an item!  (i know, cheesey, but it works I think)

Point is, you\'re young, have a ton of options open,  and college life is far far far far farrrrrr greater than highschool life. People in college tend to be more true to themselves...and..in a general sense, just more...\"Real.\" Besides, there\'s more things to do in college. More freedom, and of course, more responsiblity...which i\'ve kinda been shirking some of mine lately *cough*

Besides, there are a LOT of beautiful and nice women in the world. There are also a lot of creepy not-so-nice girls with personal/social problems as well. Like...my ex for instance *shudders*  although we never really dated much. Besides, as it was put to me (by my g/f no less) Dating in highschool is all about making the other people jealous  

Right now I\'d say you\'re at a recoverable stage. Just lay low, let things blow over, and move on.  Those feelings will die away after awhile. If after a month or so, she still doesn\'t wanna be around you even as just friends, then move on, and don\'t look back.  It\'s not worth the trouble. And...for the record NOBODY is angelic ...  my g/f included hehe.

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by Vaylos
Point is, you\'re young, have a ton of options open,  and college life is far far far far farrrrrr greater than highschool life. People in college tend to be more true to themselves...and..in a general sense, just more...\"Real.\" Besides, there\'s more things to do in college.

Yes! :D Once you graduate highschool and move on to to a higher institution, you really begin to realize just how silly everything back then was. All the little social hierarchies, the intricate finding-out-who-you-belong-with, and whatnot. It is very much a testing ground, of nearly everything - and mostly yourself and your beliefs and standards. Once you\'re out of there, all the popularity and \"coolness\" junk just disappears. It\'s a whole other world from my experience. People are so much less immature and willing to be themselves than to paint a false picture in hopes that everyone will vote for them for prettiest this and that. Love in highschool is just so very unlikely... Infatuation and its various blinding symptoms, however, are very much rampant.

I think the bottom line is that love has to be mutual to be sure it\'s love, the way I see it. If there\'s a one-sided pining for someone, it\'s a bit different.

[defender43]

Belark, can we leave prejudice out of this? African Americans do not choose to be so. They are born that way.
Sexual perversion, however, is a choice, and if it happens, you\'ve only yourself to blame.
Do not  compare African Americans and perverts.

[Karyuu]

......Sexual perversion? Perverts? Woah there.....

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Karyuu
Yes! Once you graduate highschool and move on to to a higher institution, you really begin to realize just how silly everything back then was. All the little social hierarchies, the intricate finding-out-who-you-belong-with, and whatnot. It is very much a testing ground, of nearly everything - and mostly yourself and your beliefs and standards. Once you\'re out of there, all the popularity and \"coolness\" junk just disappears. It\'s a whole other world from my experience. People are so much less immature and willing to be themselves than to paint a false picture in hopes that everyone will vote for them for prettiest this and that. Love in highschool is just so very unlikely... Infatuation and its various blinding symptoms, however, are very much rampant.

I think the bottom line is that love has to be mutual to be sure it\'s love, the way I see it. If there\'s a one-sided pining for someone, it\'s a bit different.

I get what you\'re saying, but I think that you\'re projecting.  For me personally, and my good friends, we never bought into the social hierarchy BS.  We laughed at the shallowness of others, and we formed relationships that were real and that have stood the test of time.  This includes romantic relationships.

Originally posted by defender43
Belark, can we leave prejudice out of this? African Americans do not choose to be so. They are born that way.
Sexual perversion, however, is a choice, and if it happens, you\'ve only yourself to blame.
Do not  compare African Americans and perverts.

What the hell are you talking about?  What is your definition of perversion?

For reference:  To me, the only real perversion is anything non-consentual.

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by zanzibar
For me personally, and my good friends, we never bought into the social hierarchy BS.  We laughed at the shallowness of others, and we formed relationships that were real and that have stood the test of time.  This includes romantic relationships.

Aye, there are small circles of good friends here and there that don\'t fit into the \"high school mold,\" so to speak. But the mold is still there, and a vast majority belong to it, and recognize it, and feel its presence. That seems to disappear once you\'re out of highschool.

I was probably generalizing a lot, but individual experiences color beliefs.

[zanzibar]

It doesn\'t disapear completely.  In dorms for instance, it\'s still around to a degree.  And at alternative rock clubs of course, where you\'re judged by how purposefully messy your haircut is.

[Vaylos]

I don\'t bother to comb my hair anymore...and it still works...does that count? ^_^ Aye, i\'ve seen clicks of people in dorms here and there, from my experience, but it wasn\'t really prevalent where I was....of course...we didn\'t really have any areas sectioned off for fraternities either. They had to share the dorms along with everyone else *grin*

[nightstalian]

Friends again, as I said it would work out

[Waylander]

Congradulations man