Mac Os X?

[Gripen]

With the comments of 10.2.8 being outdated (he,he,he--I must snicker) I got to wondering just how many mac users there are on PS and how many actually use 10.2, so I read the systems stickie.
It seems most of the mac users on PS are mac newbies.  Must be the first systems for most of you.
Why?
Because no one in their right mind who was around for the 10.3 release would have upgraded from 10.2.8 to 10.3.  Mac hadn\'t even finished clearing up the bugs from 10.2.8 before coming out with 10.3.  Within a few months (I know that is a very long time for computer newbies) 10.2.8 was pretty much bug free, but 10.3 almost couldn\'t even run the internet--so many bugs with everything causing the processors to run so hot it may have melted plastic.
Now they are going intel, I am going to wait until there is support of a much bigger community for os 11 before I even think of getting another mac.  10.3 is still buggy for everyone I talk to--although some of them think it is working because now their 17\" p-book no longer melts their polyester pants.

I have no problem at all with my 10.2.8--literally, 0 bugs--which is totally contrary to macs reputation.  It came with a g4 1G 256 12\"pbook--I boosted to 768ram \'cause last time I used mac for art I had to wait 20 minutes for it to refresh a 17x24 poster.

Now, I can work on murals with 3-d effects, while accessing the internet, and uploading changes to workgroup site with 10 applications open (varying from stickies to text to all of creative suite) and it still refreshes within 1 minute--usually just seconds.
[No time to go get water.]

The only time I experienced lag is when I first tested it by opening every single application I had and making them do something.  The lag was mostly in the dock bar--I couldn\'t get around to all the apps fast enough to keep them all going. [Oh yeah, the fan came on--only time I remember it going full speed]

Did I mention that I will not upgrade any mac until the I11 or what ever they call it is bug free.

(The rumors tell me that they released a nominally buggy OS with 10.4, and for some, but free.  I WAS thinking about getting that untill they went intel--so I figure within a year 10.4 will be \"outdated.\")

[Oh, and don\'t buy a 12\" pbook, they are mostly imac hardware--not really professional, the 15\" is definitely worth the extra c-notes]

I HATE THAT PS DOES NOT CURRENTLY RUN 10.2.8 [halls echo] (oh, sorry, did I sat that out loud.)

[Mobius]

I\'m failing to see how newer OS = newer Mac user. I\'ve been using Macs since my very first computer, a System 7 Performa, yet my first expirence with OS X wasn\'t until I bought and iBook that came preinstalled with 10.3.

[Torzigg]

I use Tiger and I\'ve been using Mac longer than most of you.

I\'ve been using most of the 80\'s and 90\'s Macintosh computers and all the 90\'s systems and all the versions of MacOS X. And now I\'m using Tiger.

[Draelren]

Originally posted by Gripen no one in their right mind who was around for the 10.3 release would have upgraded from 10.2.8 to 10.3

Very true, that\'s why i wait until a .5 at the end before i upgrade. With time i came across so many useful apps for 10.3 and higher only, i simply can\'t imagine anymore using my mac without them. The longer i wait, the more apps being updated are going 10.4 only. Debating to upgrade now or wait for .6. That\'s why i consider 10.2 \'outdated\' but that\'s only my personal opinion.

[dfryer]

Quit gripin\', Gripen!

(Hehe, I just wanted to say that )  I personally find that 10.3.9 works very, very well for me at the moment and has better GL drivers.  Most of the complaints around 10.3 launch seemed to be over the weird metallic finder and stuff.  Anyway, I\'m trying to modify my local copies of the configure scripts to fix the not-working-on-osx problem, then I\'ll upload binaries into the updater and whatnot.  I should probably change the torrent as well!

[Cha0s]

Running 10.4, bugless thus far. I love it. Apple had good ideas in Expose and Dashboard. Also very stable, as usual.
Yes, repository binaries are good. Nice work dfryer!

[themacman4]

I\'ve been using macs since I was born (\'90) and my family was using macs before that.  We still currently own a performa with system 7 and a Mac Classic II also with system 7.

I\'ve had one problem in 10.3, which I guess you could call a bug, for some odd reason OS9 would start in the background, but I fixed it by turning off a few unused extentions (in OS9).  Other than that 10.3.9 is flawless I never have any problems with it and I\'m running it with a iMac G3 (600mhz).  I don\'t know who you\'re talking to that say that it\'s Panther is still buggy, I got it only a couple months after it came out and the entire time I had no bugs.

You do realize that if you wait till a OS 11 you\'ll be waiting for the next six or seven years at the least?  Your computer will be waaay outdated by then.

[Aznakh]

I have been using macs now since 1998, and started with OS 9.
I have been using OS X since the Beta of 10.0 (I was one of the few brave ones who knew OS X without any apps   )
However I must say that 10.3 was the most stable release of OS X I have seen to date. My old G4 400 is still running 10.3.9 and it runs flawlessly.
I have recently upgraded my PowerBook to Tiger and so far have only noticed few minor bugs with Safari.
IMHO Jaguar is a little bit outdated and one has to go with the flow of progress. Besides, since expose I just could not bring myself to go back to an older release. (once I had to work on a windows PC  :rolleyes: and kept inconsciously pressing F11 ... it\'s that bad)  

[dying_inside]

I run 10.3.9
There has never been any internet bugs with me. Actually there havnt been bugs that I know of.
I heard it was 10.4 that had the internet sabotaged. Thats why we didnt upgrade.

[named]

Strange thread....

I have been on mac since OS 6.7. Now on 10.4.5. but still running 10.3.x on my powerbook (im lazy).

Cant see the reason running 10.2.8?? Ok if you are on a old Imac G3 or simular.

Even then do a backup and upgrade, no one can really expect that the dev team should fix the ps client to work on every box and OS.

And please dont tell me that 10.2.8 is bug free, thats pure BS.

regards,
named

[Gripen]

Originally posted by named
Strange thread....


And please dont tell me that 10.2.8 is bug free, thats pure BS.

regards,
named

The software really is, now the hardware it came with--that is another story--like I said the 12\" books are alot of hardwae from the more budget design.

Mine came with a faulty modem, memory chip, logic board, screen, and scratched laser lens.  Real hard to get a solid software load with all those problems. Yet, after replacing the logic board 2ce, there was a solid enough load to run quite well.  Eventually the screen decayed enough that I took it in to be replaced--then they had a problem I\'d had intermittently since I first bought it.  The final diagnostic cd wouldn\'t load, and they discovered the laser lens was slightly scratched (talk about misreads). [Total parts cost if I hadn\'t bought AppleCare = $2200 (more than I paid for the computer)] {The 15\" really is worth the extra couple hundred, and not just for better quality control--should still have it get a complete thorough diagnostic before you carry it out. By a mac-tech, not the disk it comes with.}

Eversince all the hardware was replaced with super-checked and rechecked merchandise = absolutely 0 bugs with software made by apple (come to think of it, not even any other software that was the fault of the Apple stuff).  Runs Adobe better than any I\'ve ever heard of.  Faster than any I\'ve seen--since it doesn\'t have innumerable silent crashes, and have to recycle over and over for every bug & mismatch.

No BS--at all.

***Dang! You know what?  If I hadn\'t done a complete reload when I took it home they probably would have given me a new G5--because they backed up the faulty software load from all those problems, then reloaded it--I didn\'t want anymore of the missing bits software experience though.