SCoY

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Gris
I have read through the thread and have only one comment. I don\'t really have a problem with ScOY\'s goals or methods. I have a problem with the name. I am a citizen of Yliakm and you are not my council. You may say you are not governmental, but the names implies that you are. Maybe you could be the sworn council of guilds or something like that. This is just an opinion from a simple citizen and nothing more.

Gris

In real life, organizations often adopt names which are misleading.  Sometimes it is by accident, sometimes it is on purpose.  Sometimes, it is simply a misunderstanding.  Whatever the case may be, I think that SCoY can keep their name.


A good example of this is \"The Green Party of Canada\".  People in the last election voted for this party because they thought that \"Green Party\" meant that it was a left wing environmentalist party, much like the Green Party down in the USA.

However, the Green Party of Canada is actually very right wing with an anti-environment pro-corporation agenda.

[Easton]

Originally posted by Gris
I have read through the thread and have only one comment. I don\'t really have a problem with ScOY\'s goals or methods. I have a problem with the name. I am a citizen of Yliakm and you are not my council. You may say you are not governmental, but the names implies that you are. Maybe you could be the sworn council of guilds or something like that. This is just an opinion from a simple citizen and nothing more.

Gris

I understand your point Gris. But we are all guilds of Yliakum. So while on first glance it may seem we are representing others, anyone who takes one more step into the subject will realize we do not represent everyone. We will most likely keep the name. But i am glad you brought that up, Gris..

Stay Safe,
Easton Ghent

[Nalain Tarek]

Firstly you would have power over only those of your guild you dont have to change the name but you might want to change the meaning The sworn Council of Yliakum to    The Sworn Calvary of yliakum but noone will follow you exept your guild

Basically what your doing is like having a beggar crawl onto the street and yell I\'m rich!

[zanzibar]

Is this thing supposed to be in character or out of character?  Everything I\'m seeing seems awfully OOC.

[zorbels]

Originally posted by Nalain Tarek
Firstly you would have power over only those of your guild you dont have to change the name but you might want to change the meaning The sworn Council of Yliakum to    The Sworn Calvary of yliakum but noone will follow you exept your guild

Basically what your doing is like having a beggar crawl onto the street and yell I\'m rich!

I read this post over five times trying to get what you were saying. I don\'t understand what point you are trying to get across .... :/ I also agree with Zanzibar, very ooc indeed.

[Pestilence]

the name hmm well don\'t see why people are so worked up about it.

Sworn stands for commitmend. Sworn to protect Yliakum. Sworn to do as the council decides even if you voted against it. So many possible meanings.

Council means it\'s led by several people and not just one. It doesn\'t imply anything on how is decided who comes in it nor  who it rules if any. Council only implies somewhat that decicions will probably be made.

of Yliakum. Thats were we live isn\'t it? Or aleast our characters do. It\'s not even the whole world the game will eventually be placed in only the planes so it\'s jus a definition of where we are based and were we operate.

[Nalain Tarek]

nevermind that last post i thought council meant rulers  about the last part thet just something i did to get my point across saying something doesnt make it true

[zanzibar]

This should be discussed in game and in character, not like this.

[Pestilence]

With disargreements about meaning like this it sometimes is hard to keep it ingame. I don\'t feel much for having the same discusion several times. And no don\'t feel this would be realistic compared to RL either.

Things like this are simply not talked about ingame like they would in real life. There is little talk about the little things and so in character news is hardly spread ingame.

So threads like this sometimes are needed to figure out how your character will react to things. To make things more realistic.

[Easton]

Originally posted by Nalain Tarek
Firstly you would have power over only those of your guild you dont have to change the name but you might want to change the meaning The sworn Council of Yliakum to    The Sworn Calvary of yliakum but noone will follow you exept your guild

Basically what your doing is like having a beggar crawl onto the street and yell I\'m rich!

First off, i do not understand the comparison here. Secondly, i don\'t understand what changing our name to the Sworn Calvary of Yliakum would do. But we already have taken note that these guilds are governing themselves:

I said before:
We also would like to add that, even though many people seem to think otherwise, we are in NO WAY A GOVERNMENT OF ANY SORT. Again, we DO NOT GOVERN ANYONE OTHER THAN THE MEMBER GUILDS WHO BOTH CHOSE TO JOIN AND ARE AN ACTIVE PART WITHIN THE COUNCIL.

As for OOC things. this forum is not meant to be IC. it can be, but obviously the tone has been set as primarily OOC. Within the council, we deal with both types of issues, but we like to keep it mainly RP for the satisfaction of the council itself.

Stay Safe,
Easton Ghent

[zorbels]

Originally posted by Nalain Tarek
nevermind that last post i thought council meant rulers  about the last part thet just something i did to get my point across saying something doesnt make it true

If something has support it can become very real and true. I believe SCoY will have that support.

 *Sighs* I can\'t understand what is wrong with a bunch of guilds banding together, discussing and working through issues together. I think the people who have issues with SCoY are grasping at straws and I have yet to see a good point made in this thread for me to believe that SCoY isn\'t good for Yliakum. (At least the people who have developed SCoY are making for some interesting roleplay, have YOU (As in the people complaining) done anything in planeshift to boost about) :/

[r.guppy]

Originally posted by zorbels

Originally posted by Nalain Tarek
nevermind that last post i thought council meant rulers  about the last part thet just something i did to get my point across saying something doesnt make it true

If something has support is can become very real and true. I believe SKoY will have that support.

 *Sighs* I can\'t understand what is wrong with a bunch of guilds banning together, discussing and working through issues together. I think the people who have issues with SKoY are grasping at straws and I have yet to see a good point made in this thread for me to believe that SKoY isn\'t good for Yliakum. (At least the people who have developed SKoY are making for some interesting roleplay, have YOU (As in the people complaining) done anything in planeshift to boost about) :/

 I think  I have made a very good contribution to this game, DON\'T you ? also he/she is allowed to stat his or her thoughts,

[zorbels]

Originally posted by r.guppy
 I think  I have made a very good contribution to this game, DON\'T you ? also he/she is allowed to stat his or her thoughts,

Never said he didn\'t have that right . *goes to look again* Nope still don\'t see where I stated don\'t say your opinion. Actually if anything my post was to encourage him to talk about it in game, or make an anti SCoY \"Calvary\" of his own for example.

Please stop looking for ways to pick me apart. :/ and others.

 You say you contribute. Well great, then maybe you can be an example to those who are complaining but are not doing anything about it. This has been blowen way out of proportion and the people who have worked on SCoY deserve a little more respect in my opinion.

[r.guppy]

Originally posted by Pestilence
With disargreements about meaning like this it sometimes is hard to keep it ingame. I don\'t feel much for having the same discusion several times. And no don\'t feel this would be realistic compared to RL either.

Things like this are simply not talked about ingame like they would in real life. There is little talk about the little things and so in character news is hardly spread ingame.

So threads like this sometimes are needed to figure out how your character will react to things. To make things more realistic.

  Keep it in game, i think his post answers that.
 I am just stating my thoughts.as was Nalain Tarek

[Cyl]

Originally posted by r.guppy

Keep it in game, i think his post answers that.
I am just stating my thoughts.as was Nalain Tarek

Well you are repeating the same statement again and again ....