SCoY

[Easton]

I would like to keep this discussion as much in game as possible. as the forums are mainly for ooc information.

moving on.. apparently i mispoke. i had ver good reason to think the DE were joining, but as of right now, Setill has decided not to join. so i take back what i said. i hope it didn\'t affect anyone too badly.

Last note: i really like the rp we have going with this current situation. just remember, its rp. so keep it in game and out of the forums please. thanks.

Easton Ghent

[Sangwa]

I don\'t think the reason was that good. Before stating in public something you should confirm it... Unless it is your intention to spread false rumors, which is great as long as its in-game (roleplayed).

By Janner:
... would like to point out only good alined guilds so far been posted as joining.

There\'s no such thing as alignments in PS. Everyone should try to keep this in mind.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Sangwa
I don\'t think the reason was that good. Before stating in public something you should confirm it... Unless it is your intention to spread false rumors, which is great as long as its in-game (roleplayed).

By Janner:
... would like to point out only good alined guilds so far been posted as joining.

There\'s no such thing as alignments in PS. Everyone should try to keep this in mind.

There are alignments, but it\'s subjective.  There are guilds that identify themselves as being \"good\", but even evil people think that they\'re doing good things.  The guilds which say they\'re out to cause death and destruction usually have a reason to justify it, so they\'re also \'good\' in their own eyes.


If a guild identifies itself as evil OOC, then that\'s ok to me.  If the guild identifies itself as evil IN CHARACTER, then I usually raise an eyebrow because a guild or character shouldn\'t identify itself as \"evil\" unless it\'s having issues with guilt etc.

[Sangwa]

There are alignments, but it\'s subjective.

Exactly, subjectiveness serves information rather poorly.
It\'s a fact that PS has no alginment system, even though some people have it in their minds.

[Easton]

Originally posted by Sangwa
I don\'t think the reason was that good. Before stating in public something you should confirm it...

well maybe when we talk we can clear things up. only if you\'d like to talk of course.

Easton Ghent

[r.guppy]

By Easton
 that you have ruined many potential friendships. good luck making a living in a hostile world janner. because you\'re going to be very very alone.

 
Seams I am not all alone in a hostile world after all.

[Easton]

Originally posted by r.guppy

By Easton
 that you have ruined many potential friendships. good luck making a living in a hostile world janner. because you\'re going to be very very alone.

 
Seams I am not all alone in a hostile world after all.

i really think you are blurring the line between roleplay and ooc. the DE and IS are RPing with the SCoY. you.. i highly doubt you are rping.

Easton Ghent

[Herleva]

Originally posted by Easton
Nice to hear from you Valbrandr. Glad to see you around still.

As for your question.. we currently have these guilds:

The Defenders, The Protectors, The Dragon Council, Woiperdinger (spelling, sorry), Plakkem Hverrjanor, Way of the Hammer, and Ruby Regin.

I think its a good mix, but it could be better of course. We are looking for all kinds of guilds. Again, its wonderful to hear from you my friend. I hope to see you soon.

Stay Safe,
Easton Ghent

I talked with a high ranking member of one of these guilds. He admitted that he doesn`t even know what SCoY is. I told him what i know about this council and also that his guild is listed as a member. A day later he declared that his guild probably joined the SCoY because they just don`t wanted to get expelled from a community.
Now it seems that the SCoY stands beside the community, as Janner mentioned and in what i agree with him.

Maybe the Dark Empire is not the only guild which was listed as a member without confirmation...

And when guilds join the SCoY without political ambitions just to prevent disadvantages; then Easton, is only YOUR guild the SCoY and the whole organization becomes useless.

Herleva, soldier in Dark Empire

[zorbels]

Originally posted by Herleva
I talked with a high ranking member of one of these guilds. He admitted that he doesn`t even know what SCoY is.

Well then maybe the guild master should have his guild mates a little more informed. Seems pointless to join an organization when you guild knows nothing about it. Point is SCoY is not responsible for that.

Originally posted by Herleva
I told him what i know about this council and also that his guild is listed as a member. A day later he declared that his guild probably joined the SCoY because they just don`t wanted to get expelled from a community.

That is a bunch of bull. Nobody cares in the community if you join SCoY or not. I am sure SCoY would be happy with new guilds joining but I am sorry expelled for the community? No one has that power. Not even the longest standing guilds.

Originally posted by Herleva
Maybe the Dark Empire is not the only guild which was listed as a member without confirmation...

Sangwa? Easton? Is this true?

Originally posted by r.guppy
Seams I am not all alone in a hostile world after all.

Janner that statement is just being petty. :/ You have said your peace, so unless you have something new to add stop poking Easton with a stick. If I wanted to see five year olds fight I would go to the park. :/

[r.guppy]

By zorbels
Janner that statement is just being petty. :/ You have said your peace, so unless you have something new to add stop poking Easton with a stick. If I wanted to see five year olds fight I would go to the park. :/

 In my humble thoughts so is this....    

By zorbels
As for these people that have the same opinion. Are you now their spokes person Janner? Or can they be brave enough to voice their own opinion\'s so that we know that \"these people feel the same way\" do exsist.

 So I think is this.......

 

By Easton
i really think you are blurring the line between roleplay and ooc. the DE and IS are RPing with the SCoY. you.. i highly doubt you are rping.

 Also would like to point out he asked to talk [in one of his posts] So I tried He said he was happy to answer ,but did not and then walked away

[Sangwa]

:O 666 posts.

[Cyl]

Originally posted by Sangwa
:O 666 posts.

You little devil .

Well back on topic:

Janner, maybe I am haveing understanding issues, but the only sense I can make out in your last post is the random quoting of other forum members.

I tried to stay out of this argument, but you managed to drive me to it:

Just because something didnt work in the past doesnt mean that it cannot work. Other people, other organisation, other times ... Many factors can make a guild/organisation/alliance die or live.

Noone forced the guilds to join, no guild is prohibited. From what I can see, the SCoY is no \"guild of guilds\" it is rather a ground on which guilds in Yliakum can make a clean table and discuss matters, so that every party is satisfied. What is so wrong with that? If you take a look at it, it is already prohibating possible wars by putting different guilds on the same table to discuss matters of tension.

[narita]

Originally posted by Herleva
I talked with a high ranking member of one of these guilds. He admitted that he doesn`t even know what SCoY is. I told him what i know about this council and also that his guild is listed as a member. A day later he declared that his guild probably joined the SCoY because they just don`t wanted to get expelled from a community.

I\'ve though such thing would happen. After all, it\'s it already guild who recruit newcomers without explantions about theyre goal. That\'s only on another level.

After a look at this long thread, I\'m still uncertain about the SCoY goals. Hmm... a group of great personalities who meet and take obscure decisions, what\'s wrong if I join this kind of aristocraty?

In fact, the only reason I see to join is to be in the group whatever it could make rather than follow my own way.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by zorbels

Originally posted by Herleva
Maybe the Dark Empire is not the only guild which was listed as a member without confirmation...

Sangwa? Easton? Is this true?

Questions like that would be best asked in game and in character.

Originally posted by Cyl
Noone forced the guilds to join, no guild is prohibited.

That\'s not exactly true.  When SCoY began, it was supposed to only be for guild that consider themselves \"good\".  The purpose of SCoY was to defend the PS world from \"evil\".  I guess SCoY has evolved.

Also, it seems that people want membership in SCoY because they\'re afraid of what will happen to them if they decline.  Also, SCoY has been presumptuous and has declared certain guilds as members when they are not members.

Now, I don\'t have a problem with Easton making mistakes and spreading lies!  I think spreading lies is great!  But it should be in game and in character, and it should be done with intent and purpose!  Really there\'s no reason for ANY of this discussion to happen in the forums.  Almost everything that has happened in this thread has been completely out of character, especially the personal grudges flying around.

[zorbels]

God people SCoY is like the United Nations in Real life. (If you don\'t know what is it look it up on the internet) How hard is it to figure out ......

There are no good nor evil guilds in the eyes of SCoY.  (Or at least there shouldn\'t be)

Originally posted by Zanzibar
Also, it seems that people want membership in SCoY because they\'re afraid of what will happen to them if they decline.

Oh really? Do enlighten me on what there is to be afraid of? Hmmm.....?

@janner My statement had a point and a question. Yours was pointless and petty no matter how much you quote me.