The Survivors of Berne

[Karyuu]

It turns out that there are two spellings - with and without the 'e'. Both are valid.

[Easton]

valid meaning, not able to be used in game. despite all the obvious reasons as to why it should be left..

meh.. nothing against anyone, its just stupid for the lack of a better term.. maybe.. its all semantics.. yeah.. thats a bit better..

Easton

[Hadfael]

sorry if I added to the confusion.
I hope the small converstions we had ingame helped to clarify the situation.
If not you know I'll listen and try my best to make myself clear (which I usualy fails)
Right now it's more an opened reflexion about guild names in which yours was involved after months without comments.
 About the different opinions of GMs, it's the same with players. Any name that seems fine to a great number can still disturb a few to a different level. From being able to get along to being really annoyed depending on your culture and knowledge. There are a set of things we are all agreeing on. Those are already part of the policy. But when it cames to "disturbing others RP" it is and will always be a matter of personal opinion.
Some things are not "white or black" but dotted or shaded.
-Berne is a capital city spelled this way by many of its citizens.
-Berne is not in PS settings
+You are using this name for a while

post scriptum: TY for your revelent opinion about languages Easton. You enlighted me.

[LigH]

Living in Germany (and so being almost a neighbor to them), I know the capitol of Switzerland only as "Bern", and therefore never expected it to be confused with Berne. This may only happen for different languages where an additional "e" is usual.

[Uyaem]

Actually the capital of Switzerland is Bern, not Berne.

... and Munich is actually München, but the English language doesn't give a damn about proper nouns
http://www.bern.ch/weiche-en

And to be brutally honest I find this specific decision, though politically correct, rather stupid. There was obviously no ooc intention with this guild at all, quite unlike the other example mentioned.

That's what I tried to explain in my first posting in this thread - the next best guy will call their guild "The Holocaust" and say "Oops sorry, didn't know there has already been one...", and while this example is perhaps blunt, you can see where it's going...

Of course who am I ... sure won't make a fuss out of this and I'll be quiet now.

It's the forums, if you have something to post, you post it - that's how it works.

[Kerol]

Living in Germany (and so being almost a neighbor to them), I know the capitol of Switzerland only as "Bern", and therefore never expected it to be confused with Berne. This may only happen for different languages where an additional "e" is usual.

In Germany you usually also don't talk about 'Germany' but 'Deutschland'

[Pestilence]

I know english is terrible at naming places and countries tottally different for some reason.

One such kinda strange example is indeed "Deutschland". Called "Duitsland" in dutch but somehow became "Germany" in english.

Also strange duits, deutsch, dutch. The last one is refering to being from holland while the other two are refering to being from germany. *shrugs*

English is a stange languege that way.

Anyhow as much as I agree decicions like this somehow have to be made faster then this I have to agree with the decicion. A name of the capital of a country how unknown to some perhaps has to have people thinking of OOC thinks.

I would however like to support the suggestion that the GMs look at ways to make these decicions faster after creating. We had the same trouble with the Dragon Council when a GM decided to change it while we had already carried it for I believe had been half a year already by then. (1,5 by now so don't know exactly how long it was)

Specially the guilds that have come out here in the forums it's kinda strange it takes so long to have the name looked at sometimes.

[LigH]

I heard - in japanese, a "german" is translated as "longnose"...

[Easton]

Some things are not "white or black" but dotted or shaded.
-Berne is a capital city spelled this way by many of its citizens.
-Berne is not in PS settings
+You are using this name for a while

Berne not being in the PS setting is inconsequential to me. If you read the story, you will soon find out that Berne no longer exists. It was destroyed. You see.. when i sat down to create this guild, (i didn't just pay 20k and make a guild..) i wanted to give it a goal, something soo far off that it may not even ever be attained, but thats somewhat the point. If someone made a guild "To make it to tomorrow" It'd be pointless because after they reached their obvious goal, they are rendered kind of pointless. Thus, i gave the guild a verrrrrryyyyy long term goal of rebuilding a city, and then added a few goals to fuel us in the meantime. The fact that berne wasn't thought up by a dev doesn't mean i can't say there was once this city.. right? or is that not rp, but pretending?

post scriptum: TY for your revelent opinion about languages Easton. You enlighted me.

Hey.. as long as we both keep our minds open, i think we'll be just fine. I'm sure we'll talk more about other more consequential things..

EDIT: The new guild name is Survivors of Vaern. Karyuu you are welcome to lock and/or delete this thread. Ill be making another with the edited names and things.. Thanks to everyone for not leaving me in the dark on this one.

Easton Ghent