Originally posted by derwoodly
Well looks like the French have proven me wrong yet again. An estimated 1 million person protest is going on there!
I would like to point out that these very large protests are NOT against the occupation of Iraq. They are about domestic issues. And they are getting press, contrary to what Grippen is claiming.
For me it comes down to what is more believable. Gripens view that the US government is conspiring with world media to rule the world, and a bunch of kids with a cool domain name are the only ones on the planet that can stop them, OR Main stream view that USA\'s government (and all others as well) is a flawed organization that let a bunch of fanatics make fools of them.
I mean really, if the government was half as clever as Gripen claims it to be, \"Black-Ops\" would just break into Grippens house brain wash him and we would never have to read tripe like the first post. Or to state it another way, Nixen secretly spies on the democratic party and gets impeached, but Bush starts a war by KILLING 3000 of its own citizens and blames it on foreign terrorist who are all too happy to take the blame and then gets away scott free? I just don\'t think so. All of the stuff on that site can either be shown as just false, or be explained by one hand not knowing what the other hand is doing.
I see you\'re still smokin that stuff.
My name is pronounced like gripin\'--I started off here only griping.
The protest in France is not a risk to our national security--the 500,000 protest in LA is considered a risk to national security because it encourages more protesting and when the government does what it is going to do anyway--then the protests turn into riots. This protest has prompted many other protests.
Strange, it still has not been reported on the local news here in Tucson Arizona, but the 20000 protest in Phoenix was--now the only proteste going on in the us that get reported here are the walkouts of grade school kids--coupled with threats varying from jail to suspension, and the schools are locking them into the compounds contrary to firecode (but that is not made an issue on the news).
The largest protest in US history, and it doesn\'t make news in a city only a few hundred miles away. Why? The NSA does not want unrest breaking out the way the rodney king trial did (if the rodney king trial happened now--the news of it would not be aloud to reach everywhere in the country for a minimum of 6 months, and probably years. The only way to get this news is to look for it specifically on the internet--this is written into the national security act. Read it yourself (it is only 580 to 720 pages depending on what font you use). [Oh yeah, I forgot, you\'ve been smoking and have difficulty concentrating
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The point is that the government didn\'t do it--merely a few of them were directly responsible for it happening.
Oh, and since the video uses the same music as Michael Moore\'s movie, but adds many elements which are verifiably incorrect, and the only place I can achieve 300+ download speeds from is Washington DC--I\'m suspicious of the video from the first post of this thread as being something deliberately made to discredit the Micheal Moore movie--Fahrenheit 911.
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Originally posted by Araye
....No one talked? Everyone just went along with it?
....Is it really so far fetched?
....Use some common sense.
Araye
Yep, that it correct, that is exactly what happened starting in the 1920\'s and culminating in the 1960s. It continued into the 70s then finally starting getting fingered, and black ops lost the power to assassinate anyone just for the \"national security\" near the end o the 70s. Then in the 80s Reagan administration (oh--that is EXACTLY THE SAME people in our current government regime) was caught dealing mass illegal arms to known enemies of the US. He was almost impeached for his support in the Iran Contra scandal. Oh yeah, arms were used to buy drugs from the contras--it has not been declassified yet where the cocaine from the contras went, only that it was moved using american military. (**Just like the \"medicinal\" drugs to Cuba.)
Oh yeah, Cuba. That has been declassified--which is what the video opens with: \"March 13 1962\" the pentagon initiates an operation which entails terrorist acts in DC, and Cuba--even on the US base in Cuba, and plans to blame Cuba for it in order to allow an all out attack of Cuba (which Kennedy agreed to, but then did not allow the attack when the time came--Nov, 1963 Kennedy is killed by a trained black ops marine).
By the way, that plan to overthrow Cuba--they used the military to do those attacks. The plan was commited all the way up to the attack = The US government commited acts of terrorism against Florida, D.C., and Cuba. You want to know the really weird part--Cheney was deeply involved in that event also.
^^^thanks Karyuu for connecting these two posts--I didn\'t know how to do that.
