An appeal to the guild heads and heroes of Yliakum

[makita]

err that\'s weird, you should be able to see the pic, ayway here\'s a link
http://www.makita-ps.go.ro/alligment.jpg
@peacer, that was merely an example to make my point.........
you see the problem with xilix\'s old system was that all new players were being sent on the same path
@Xilix, i will try this new system of yours
[and don\'t tell me about smelting, because lately, the platinum mines are being invaded by vespers]
[edit] yes, for some reason the link doesn\'t seem to work, just copy it and paste it into your browser

[Karyuu]

Use alignment as a guide, not as a definite structure for your character. PS has no alignment system.

[makita]

there is no need to have an alligment system, alligment, is not something you choose once and then get stuck with, alligment is forced upon your character by his actions
what i am suggesting is that all new players should choose a starting alligment
Of course that choice won\'t be final

[Eolius]

I will be happy to help you with tours, since that\'s actually the usual way Protectors like to help newcommers. So feel free to ask any Protector for help if you have somebody that wants to see the wonders of Yliakum knocking at your door.

[Peacer]

@Makita: still doesn\'t work :/
@Xillix: i will aid you, and i am hearing my guildmates about this and see who would like to support you.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

@Makita I thought we settled this, I do not nor have I at any time sent new players on a single path. From the beggining I have sent them different directions based on their merits and flaws as well as what they WANT to play. I dont teach smelting, what are you talking about?

@Eolius thanks that support is appreciated

@Peacer thank you and let me know what your guildies say

@Keryuu have always called that the Wyldewood oopsy.

@everyone please donate to Vespers other than Xillix herself, Under the new guild advancement they have Quotas to fulfill so you will additionally be aiding a young priest.

[sardit]

I have to agree with Syliph, i myself had a different view on making money gained from other rpg's and over here it is hard! I did get some money from experienced players, but that was after a week of play or so, and thank god because i really needed some training money, i had over 1000 pp at that time but i just could not get the money to train them away. So there is a point to giving newcommers some money, I was ready to quit for not being able to make it myeself, after that boost i could get to the clackers and trepors and when you are strong enough to attack those then you have no problem making your own money any more.

For me i think it would suit to give newcommers some basic weapons, without them you really dont stand a chance, especially when you make the mistake to train melee in order to get a bit stronger, you get double the damage by only equiping a single sword. So if either players give you one or you get one on character creation is indifferent to me, but imho it would help players stay interested in this game. I spent a full week in the sewers playing 14 hours a day just to get money enough to buy daggers. Only to find out that you can not buy those and have to kill a rogue to get them... Trust me, that isnt very motivating either.

[zanzibar]

- I'm not saying you should stop helping new players.
- I'm not attacking you personally (though others have done so to me).
- My issue is with the OOC content of the blurbs, not with the shouts.
- I gave several possible solutions in the other thread, especially:
- - sending OOC content as a /tell $target
- The God you introduced to the Planeshift History was "Kronar", not "Vodul".  You claimed that Kronar was "Vodul's Will", but not Vodul himself.

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=22335.0

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Zanzibar,

I have no relation to the person who began the Kronar issue at all. You may be conflating the issues. The thread you refer to about OOC was closed, I already agreed to and am implementing the various suggestions I was given by you and others to cut down the OOC. I am finding it quite bothersome to do it in group because I plan RP events in group. I will try the tells. In many cases this nescessitates saying [click the blinking group/tell tab] as an OOC statement I hope that does not offend . I don't want to carry this further Zanzibar. The thread was closed when after i had already agreed to make changes, because things got a bit out of hand, and I do not want more of that. Did you come here to donate? Or to tell me how to send new Lawful evil people to your guild? Or maybe you would volunteer to lead the walking tours with new players?

You would be as welcomed as any member of the community to aid in these ways-

@everyone Please donate we are a church, we minister, we teach churches are generally not self-supporting please aid us.

[Zan]

Maybe you should try passing out a collecting dish in your next ceremony

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Zan good thought, we have some good planning but a large group of people are coordinating to make the post to the guild section and announcement of the Vespers website correspond. I plan to have monthly sermons for the followers of Laanx and do just that.

[zanzibar]

- When the other thread was closed, people were still accusing me of being critical without offering any solutions.
- I help new players.  I have no plans to join your guild.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I never invited you

[zanzibar]

The way you word thing sometimes suggests that you think the only way to help new players is through your guild.  It surely isn't your intent, it's just the way you word things.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Zanzibar

The nature of this is simple; I aid new players in getting oriented on the server. I teach how to use brackets and controls etc, as well as some of the fundamentals of role playing. I also offer incentives for new players to go back and read the players guide and story of Yliakum before they start running around shouting and stealing things etc. It is, as I am discovering, hard work and sometimes frustrating but that is not your concern. Seeing this was impossible to do alone I created the Vespers of Laanx [in part] to aid me but more on them in the coming days. For now you can know that I have taught them a system of shortcuts to help with the handing out of quests whose intent is to teach the basics of playing planeshift as a character in an immersive world.

I need more donations; by far more is going out than coming in. I have seen dozens and dozens of new players now.

The good news is that there is someone doing this. Yes we all help new players casually but this makes it systematic.  Another benefit is that the Vespers are gaining experiences to aid us in learning how to do this more effectively. I am more than willing to continue. I am asking for aid both in donations and ideas to make this run smoother, as well as ways to integrate Yliakum\'s many guilds in the structure of what I am doing. If you would like your guild to be included in the retinue of quests I give out to the newer players please arrange this with me.