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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2006, 08:30:29 pm »
thx for that quick description inca, yes i got all info from there  :D you added some factors i didnt knew about.. so now im tinking a fusion beetween chinese/japan architecture and manueline(portuguese architecture around 16th century)
wiki manueline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manueline
one of the last templar made structures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convent_of_the_Order_of_Christ

i tink this 2 styles would be good for medium,larger buildings
with chromatic steel(2-3 diferent colors) and stone structures mixed with large thick crystal halls and windows

small/medium buildings, same cromatic steel and wood but with hut shapes, and capable of getting 3 floor high?

edit:
over dinner a question came up.. does CS suport reflection, in the chromatic?
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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2006, 09:33:55 pm »
Another comments. Try to imagine what materials for building Klyros can use. In common, they are nomads, fishermen and hunters, also they can manage water farms (with fishes or alga).Also, they have their unique physical characteristix that, i think, limit their range of usefull constructive instruments. So, see, it's a very complicated race :)
BUT. I think you, one more time, find usefull reference. See picture.


I marked architecture detals i like. I suggest to place supporting collumns  (3,5-4 meters height for common houses) with very big stalaktite-seems capitals (top part of collumn). Klyros can fly up and hang on on them.
What do you think?
Actually in game we cant use reflections or specular effect :( It's a pity. May be in future  O--)




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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2006, 10:09:20 pm »
well about the weight of materials, klyros do have a special interest for magic, and were talking about a giant clty flying over the seas, that brings us to another question..  ;D
the city, is flying because of?
magic enchanted island drifts the sky's?
mechanical enginered platforms keep it in the air?
a huge crystal mechanism keeps it in the air?
mechanical enhanced with magic keep it in the air?

i actual had this doubt before, for diferent choices will change the layout of the city or for aerodynamics or for fantasy.

going back to were i was i did a sketch for the other architecture style it would go around this..


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« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2006, 10:23:21 pm »
i think i see wat ur trying to say  ;). i always picture the huts made of wood with a woven read roof and the odd bit of metal to keep everything together, so they could abandon them fast at the hint of aproaching danger or a sudden change in temperature (or it is just time to move on - they are nomads).just thinking, but would the klyros bother to make ornate structures,just to hang on.in my opinion,there probably would be a few wooden support pillars and a seperate beam to hang on.

another thing - the location - we could try keeping the suspended city theme, but have it floating slightly above a giant lake/swamp/thing?????

(sorry if any of this isn't making sense i'm really tired  :sleeping:)

anyway, i just drew a couple of buildings. they are designed to be tempory but sturdy structures.





edit: sorry minetus if that didn't make any sense - you posted while i was typing  ::|
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« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2006, 10:42:41 pm »
i tink a flying city, its the oposite of the klyro nature and at the same time the same.. :o did that make sense?

the klyros are nomads, traveling from place to place, but we are talking about a flying city that "is dreefting in the sky" so the the flying city is nomad in the klyros theme and at the same time is a fixed place, so the structure on it would end up like a advance in klyro's architecture so ...

if a regular klyro would make a hut with metal structures, some leather and wood, in a stationary city like this it would become a buillding of hard materials and a mutation of the klyro's base hut, and all types of architecture knoledge that klyros attain in their travellings within yiliakum during the very construction of the city into something greater..

i tink yould find a mix of all races architecture within this city ex: (a klyros house with thin stone plates in the roof with kran symbols), or/and (with ynnwn door hall style), etc...

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« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2006, 10:56:52 pm »
ok....... it going to be hard i think to get the balance right..:

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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2006, 11:07:02 pm »
ya gota tink like a klyro ;D >o)

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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2006, 04:50:40 am »
hmm...  I kind of got the idea that the kylros  city was...not impossible to get to, but definately more difficult for a race other than kylros to get to it, which might affect how the buildings look. perhaps lower the amount of different race's influences on the architecture.

@minetus and kind of @ Inca... about the nomadic thing. i think that in this day and age of yliakum, there will always be some people in a race who go against their traditions and beliefs for something they feel is the smarter choice. What i mean is that the floating city could be inhabited by Kylros who have abandonded their nomadic way to settle and form industry and a government and whatnot...but at the same time, not in the floating city (I was thinking up in the mountains like some of the pictures of Chinese mountains that Minetus provided) there would be many more kylros who stil go by their old ways and traditions and move where the food is...

@Inca... the idea of the kylros being nomadic which i think is a great idea...and owning farms ( another great idea. Liked the picture ;)) kind of contradict eachother dont they?...but maybe with the idea I said above they dont?...

Also i think rast said something earlier about the floating city being above a lake or something? well i love that idea! REALLY! i drew a picture about the image in my head...if i could just figure out how to get it on here...

ok! here it is:
http://esnips.com/doc/0f9082a1-933e-4813-aa61-0b7d26984748/kylroscity1.gif

edit: please not that this picture i drew isn't a plan or anything...i just wanted to show youguys how i see the kylros city and local areas :D
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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2006, 11:31:12 am »
sounds a good idea too hanz, and we should decide in wich way we gona go, before we start anything.. landscape is also a big factor on architecture.
that landscape also opens up for diferent possibility, like for example a part of the city being build vertically ex:.(on a cliff, with several house's attached to the rock)

and if we chose to follow a diferent branch in klyro architecture, we would have to work on the very basics of the klyro architecture it self. so we could adapt and morph it.

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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2006, 12:56:38 pm »
right.. i see what you mean minetus. ok, heres what i'm going to do so we can get a clear look at what we're...looking at! ::)

Here is a list of what we have so far for the kylros city

  • Somewhat nomadic
  • Able to fly
  • Able to breath under water
  • Weak structure (bones and build)
  • Likes to live near water
  • Eats Fish, Shellfish, and Alga
  • Skilled with magic but uses it for practical things
  • Very artsy...(I was thinking renaissance style art when i read this?... ???)
  • famous for cooking crab in many different ways :P
  • Slightly Japanese/Chinese style buildings
  • Aspects of all races in architecture
  • City sort of hard to get to for races other than kylros??...


well...that's what i could think of for now. If anyone wants me to add something else to it or wants me to take somehting off just tell me 'cause chances are you'll know better than me!
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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2006, 01:06:37 pm »
Heh, I just can't wait for flying and the Klyros city to be implimented. =D

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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2006, 01:26:38 pm »
you forgot this one:
- like to hang upside down. bat style

following the cliff idea a hut like in a cliff.


id like to know from all of you what type of city we'd should go with..?

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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2006, 01:37:17 pm »
Klyros don't have a way to hang upside down like bats. Their anatomy doesn't allow it.
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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2006, 01:41:53 pm »
Hmm..about that "japan"-like buildings. Do you get all info from main PS site about klyros? I think it is most unique race amongst others cause they can fly, run and able tolive underwater. They sleep like bats, they like to rest in water cause their skin needed water refreshment... They like glassy surfaces, mirrors and similar... Prefer to live close to water. They dont have religion. You need to think over about their houses and settlement and your ideas must match klyros characteristix :) My sketch from main site still raw and needed to modify. Good Luck.

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Re: 3d village on water - wat do u think??
« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2006, 01:44:51 pm »
I fail to see how they can sleep like bats, when their anatomy doesn't allow it?

If they sleep upside down, it won't be like bats, hanging from their wings. It'll be them bending their knees/legs around something to hold themselves - their wings just won't allow bat-like grips.
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