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zanzibar

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Xillix's guild - stop the madness please.
« on: April 24, 2006, 01:10:22 am »
Xillix's guild is using shortcuts to tell newcomers to visit the planeshift website.  It has been encorporated into a guild-run quest that they give to each and every single new player that they meet.

Xillix and her guildmates have been completely resistant to change.  Personally, I find it terribly OOC, disruptive, and annoying. 

Does anyone have any comments?  Agree/disagree?
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2006, 01:53:39 am »
Xillix and her guildmates have been completely resistant to change.

And what change have they been Resistant too?
And who is it that is telling them to change?

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2006, 02:03:00 am »
I think zanzibar is trying to say that every time they see a newbie they use a shortcut to tell them to visit the forums...I wish they had a grammar translation website just for zanzibar. =P

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2006, 02:03:55 am »
Well, since I added $target to the shortcuts, perhaps they could do this in /tell?

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/tell $target Blah blah, more blah, visit http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html
I'm rather curious WHY they're actually telling them to visit the site. They obviously would have gone there once already to get the client.

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2006, 02:06:36 am »
actually you'd be surprised. having the game doesn't actually mean that they have visited and read anything.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006, 02:08:27 am »
Maybe someone gave them the direct link to the mirror? =X

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2006, 02:09:45 am »
Ch. I agree on the annoying part. All I hear in the plaza is "Vespers of Laanx accepting donations large and small. Send us the daft bla blah."
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2006, 02:12:49 am »
An old quote, MB days:

Unnamed shouts: how do you get a weapon and fight stuff?
Ampathos shouts: read the website
Unnamed shouts: yea right i pirated this off kazaa

Too much shouting is just rude, and those asking for donations (especially for a charity) are usually a lot more humble and quiet about it. When you shout, you aren't just trying to get your voice out there - your character is straining his or her vocal cords, actually shouting, for gods know whatever reason. If people are annoyed, it's time to cut down on it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2006, 02:14:20 am »
I think zanzibar is trying to say that every time they see a newbie they use a shortcut to tell them to visit the forums...I wish they had a grammar translation website just for zanzibar. =P


Hey flame boy,

You're right in saying that they use shortcuts to communicate more quickly with new players.  However, they don't just link to the forums - it's to the planeshift setting page specifically.  The idea is that new players will read the history of planeshift, then return with the answer to a trivia question.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2006, 02:16:27 am »
Ok, and how is this supposed to be a bad thing again...? They use brackets, don't they? If not, then prod their asses until they do.

...'Nuff said.

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2006, 02:20:36 am »
Ok, and how is this supposed to be a bad thing again...? They use brackets, don't they? If not, then prod their asses until they do.

...'Nuff said.


OOC is OOC.  Brackets help, but they don't make it ok, especially when it's something so pervasive and intrusive as what Xillix's guild do.

Btw flamey, I don't see where my grammar was so horrible.  You found it flame-worthy however, so do you mind pointing out the error of my ways?  Thanks.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 02:23:04 am »
*sigh* don't start. They're using brackets so it can be seen as OOC, and not disturb what is happening in the RP. If you don't like it, you can just kiss their asses, because that's what they're going to do, and keep doing. They're helping people, not disturbing the rp, and the only thing that could possibly be wrong is that it maybe fills one or two lines in the chat box. Big deal? Now stop getting so pissy over their helping noobs and get over it.

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 02:27:04 am »
*sigh* don't start. They're using brackets so it can be seen as OOC, and not disturb what is happening in the RP. If you don't like it, you can just kiss their asses, because that's what they're going to do, and keep doing. They're helping people, not disturbing the rp, and the only thing that could possibly be wrong is that it maybe fills one or two lines in the chat box. Big deal? Now stop getting so pissy over their helping noobs and get over it.


It's disruptive and intrusive.  I can personally say that it disturbs me, and we've already heard from others who feel the same way.  I was standing around infront of the temple the other day RPing with a few characters, and we kept getting interupted by their damn shortcuts complete with OOC references and urls.

Brackets are for OOC chat when you absolutely have to say something but you're in the presence of others who aren't part of the OOC conversation.  OOC chat is still supposed to be avoided though.  Sometimes it's necessary but brackets don't make it ok.

At least, that's my understanding of it.

And no, this isn't about helping new players.  It's about the disruptive nature of their blurbs.

Here's a solution:  Send the OOC parts of the blurb as a /tell.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2006, 02:29:35 am by zanzibar »
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 02:29:40 am »
Let's all calm down. New board, hopefully new beginnings for other things too.

OOC shouting should be cut to a very bare minimum. OOC /say, if used sparingly, is fine. I don't have the exact logs of some messages you guys may be referring to so I can't offer alternative suggestions, but if something requires an OOC explanation one should try very hard to make it work In-Character first, with only a sentance or two of OOC brackets for clarification. For example, typing out the exact URL of the Settings page from the site is unnecessary. Players can't cut-and-paste from the game client, and it's a very simple matter to find that page from the main site anyway. You can explain a lot to new players without resorting to OOC text at all, too.

I'm just wondering at the frequency of use for these shortcuts. One of my personal concerns is that too much pre-typed and repeated text creates a robotic, impersonal character that plays too much like an NPC instead of a warm-blooded player.

*edit* Zanzibar made a good point - since you can use $target in shortcuts, send OOC tells - that's what the command is for anyway. So explain something IC, then target the player and click the shortcut for an OOC elaboration. It should be flawless.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 02:31:00 am »
What do you want then? Do you want them to say "There is a magical place called www.planeshift.it that has all the answers you seek...it has tales of how this world came to be, and even has a reference of all the different races in this world, including their strengths, weaknesses, and physical traits"

COME ON! It's better that they do this, than have noobs run around saying things WITHOUT brackets like "ey lol how do i play dis game lol"