Xillix's guild - stop the madness please.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I will let others decide what they want rather than have the details of my character's history brushed aside by you. You are massively oversimplifying what is contained in those links. Also included in there is a history of who my antogonists are IC and OOC, displaying specifically who has had a problem with me and for what as well as my efforts to change my angle more to suit the omnipresence of varied ideas on the nature of roleplay. I am doing much more than acruing haters though and I hope that shines through.

[Waylander]

Yeah, you are also ignoring advice and going against the wishes of Talad...Good job, and it's shining through brilliantly

You do public OOC...a lot, hell, my chat window was full of it.  If you are going to have IC and OOC then atleast have the IC outweigh the OOC.

Right now you are encouraging players to OOC, I hope you realize that.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

This is a work in progress as my other thread clearly asserts. To even remotely suggest that I have not been amenable to change it absurd. I have done countless hours of community service in this manner and despite the fact that no one is awake right now many many support my work. You fail to see the net effect of what I do entirely. You make assumptions and even presume to know what authorities in the game think about my actions. My support is not just with the players I assure you.

[Waylander]

I don't presume to think.  Talad has stated again and again that OOC should be avoided at all costs.  That is why there is no OOC channel tab.

I did not say anything about you changing, I said about taking advice.  You can not use the forums as the only way to find out what the people ingame think, that would be ineffective, ignorant and all around stupid.

I also don't care about how many support your work.  People are usualy wrong...If a thousand people are wrong and one is right, it doesn't change who is right   I may have misinterpretted Talad's words...but I highly doubt that

[r.guppy]

 
I have read through this post and frankly, so what .yes shouting is annoying, But so is attacking someone just because you are to lazy to think before you decide to do some thing [RP location], you have a brain you use it if something is going to annoy you plan ahead and you could avoid your problem.

 As for Valbrandr  you like me give credit to the fact he has a brain and will decide for himself, based on what he sees and reads, SO please don't asume whot he will say, like me wait for his reply.

 Xillix is doing a good job and indeed has asked how to improve what she does, so yes she has bent to the wishes in what she does.

[zanzibar]

I will let others decide what they want rather than have the details of my character's history brushed aside by you. You are massively oversimplifying what is contained in those links. Also included in there is a history of who my antogonists are IC and OOC, displaying specifically who has had a problem with me and for what as well as my efforts to change my angle more to suit the omnipresence of varied ideas on the nature of roleplay. I am doing much more than acruing haters though and I hope that shines through.

I gave a simple answer to a simple question.

This is a work in progress as my other thread clearly asserts. To even remotely suggest that I have not been amenable to change it absurd. I have done countless hours of community service in this manner and despite the fact that no one is awake right now many many support my work. You fail to see the net effect of what I do entirely.

That's all beside the point.

You make assumptions and even presume to know what authorities in the game think about my actions. My support is not just with the players I assure you.

Uh, Xillix?  Talad, Chaos, Karyuu, and others have been EXTREMELY clear in what they think about your actions.  And no, you have players for you but also many against you.

[ou8i8uo]

Suno, Zanzibar, you guys really oughta lighten up a little, if the shouts bother you so much then change the text to the same white as chat in the options or use the addignore or something. What, do you expect her to build a sigh in the plaza or something? Its really alot better than someone running around asking in a shout "where do I train strength?"
I'm sure your'e not going to take your precious time to direct newbies to the game to her, she is doing something worth while and noble and she RP's so really, consider climbing down off her back just for decency's sake huh? All this flaming sure gets old.

[Waylander]

Satayne, I respect your judgement...you know I do.  But in this case she is encouraging shouting (Well she was, I think she stopped) and public OOC (You should see how much they OOC...by god) both of which should be used sparingly.  Zanzi has a point, there are a few things she should change...Suno on the other hand just seems to hate Zanzi

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I do not wish to have someone come to me in game and tell me a bunch of stuff about how wrong what I am doing is and throw around Talad's authority as though it is their own, no. If you want to behave like that you can do it here where others can see it. I discuss all kind of matters in game with people every day. I doubt you have any idea how much mork has been done to get this going, or how much it has changed since inception. In the mean time call the law if you must, I have the utmost respect for the makers of the game and those that think my proactive brand of testing Is ironing out kinks. I believe I inspire a great deal of imagination in people and make for some exciting roleplaying, and during my down time in that endeavor, I gear people up to be able to take roles in those stories. What you are saying to me is you want the chance to tell someone about ooc and bracket things after they mistake it and say "I am a Noob give me a sword." It is merely etiquette unkown to the person and most are very responsive to it and take to it immediately. So they will learn to say "I am new to Yliakum." by teaching them the history. Yes I send them out of ps to do so, but they should probably not be there before having read if the world was to be as ideally well role played as you would seem to want. This is not the case many players do not read the history for weeks, even months. I dont want to defend what I do point for point because I believe the principal is sound.

Zanzibar what do you mean? Seriously none of what I said was beside the point.

Those forces have not made it clear to me and your saying so does not make it so-

Karyuu has not come out against me in a clear fashion that I recall

Waylander the spirit of what I do is being crushed out by this stange Idea that I am Ignoring Talad's wishes. My way means less unbracketed OOC and by transitivity less OOC, I teach from the start that group or tells can be OOC, but the outloud chat is to be used primarily for in character speech. I teach what that means. I root a player in the History of the land so that they can do so more effectively.   

[Waylander]

but the outloud chat is to be used primarily for in character speech.

This is the only point I disagree with you on.  The outloud chats are not just used primarily for in character speech, they should be used near-exclusively for it.  You are teaching players that IC is just a cover and that your real message lies in what is between the brackets.  I am glad you teach them to use brackets but you yourself use them way too much.

Outloud OOC even with brackets should be used for maybe a line of speech, at most, if it is more than that then it should be in tells or group.

This is all I am saying.

[r.guppy]

Uh, Xillix?  Talad, Chaos, Karyuu, and others have been EXTREMELY clear in what they think about your actions.  And no, you have players for you but also many against you.

 I  Love the way you speak for others, they have a right to speak for them self's in this thread, or are you talking for them ?

[zanzibar]

I'm sure your'e not going to take your precious time to direct newbies to the game to her, she is doing something worth while and noble and she RP's so really, consider climbing down off her back just for decency's sake huh? All this flaming sure gets old.

I have other people who I direct new players to.

Satayne, I respect your judgement...you know I do.  But in this case she is encouraging shouting (Well she was, I think she stopped) and public OOC (You should see how much they OOC...by god) both of which should be used sparingly.  Zanzi has a point, there are a few things she should change...Suno on the other hand just seems to hate Zanzi

Pretty much.

Zanzibar what do you mean? Seriously none of what I said was beside the point.

You do some good things and some bad things.  The good things don't make the bad things disapear, so they're beside the point.

Karyuu has not come out against me in a clear fashion that I recall

Then our memories contradict each other and I'll speak no more of it - Karyuu can come in and speak her mind if she feels inclined to.

Uh, Xillix?  Talad, Chaos, Karyuu, and others have been EXTREMELY clear in what they think about your actions.  And no, you have players for you but also many against you.

 I  Love the way you speak for others, they have a right to speak for them self's in this thread, or are you talking for them ?

They speak for themselves.  They posted when this whole thing went down, and they were very clear about it.  Cha0s made an entire thread dedicated to the subject.  I do not understand how there can be any confusion about this.

[Waylander]

Uh, Xillix?  Talad, Chaos, Karyuu, and others have been EXTREMELY clear in what they think about your actions.  And no, you have players for you but also many against you.

 I  Love the way you speak for others, they have a right to speak for them self's in this thread, or are you talking for them ?

With all due respect, if everybody who was against it and everybody who was for it came and posted the thread would be flooded

And Zanzi was pointing stuff out that he remembered, he was not speaking for them.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

The net effect of what I am doing is the point as I see it. always always the minutia, I will move to grouping with the new players. Find fault somewhere else for a while.

[Waylander]

Meh, if you use group for OOC then I am all for your guild.