Xillix's guild - stop the madness please.

[zanzibar]

Suzuka249, two things:

1.  The issue isn't that they're using shortcuts.  The fact that they have it as a shortcut just makes it worse.  The real problem is the OOC content, especially the URLs.

2.  If two players are shouting in character, well that's how you communicate.  There aren't any cell phones, and /tells are OOC except in very rare instances like whispering, or like the other cases I posted earlier in the thread.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Zanzibar, You seem to gloss over the fact that you came over to me to be disrupted.

[zanzibar]

Zanzibar, You seem to gloss over the fact that you came over to me to be disrupted.

Huh?


Edit:  Ok, as far as I can tell - you mean that I came to the forums to disrupt you from being disruptive.  In which case I'd agree, but I don't quite understand the point in pointing it out.  You're entirely right in saying that I'm trying to stop you from doing something I percieve as disruptive / bad.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Your will to oversimplify . . .

I mean that you came over to me in game to get the snippet of text you reprinted here. I have cut the shouting down but will not cease on this we are agreed. The OOC will stop as soon as the changes are made throughout my organization I have no problem with any of that. What I do not enjoy is constantly being under more acute scrutiny it this combative manner. This is the second post you have made concerning me. Many other players engage in much worse than what now goes on at the temple and you are so utterly sticking to the point of this rule and making me somehow the lightening rod for it, that you can't really see the truth that the net effect of what I have done has reduced the incidence of things you and others dislike. You seem to be good at arguing why I do not need shout for donations, you tore into the back-story created by UTM to explain one person's version of my character's history. Berated and tried to assassinate me in game, and have spoken out against me on numerous fronts. It borders on harassment. I have seen elsewhere how you seem to dangle at the edge of this place like a spider waiting for someone to make it jingle so you can feed. Attracted to poor logic and any inconsistency or lack of knowledge of the settings you seem to gravitate toward snide comments from a position of power. I will not satisfy that urge.

[zanzibar]

The text I quoted was from someone in your guild, not you.

The reason this all bothers me is because it was a regular occurence by regulars, not just new players who don't know any better.  The reason why I've made you the focus is because you're the one in charge of it.  And no, my stink isn't about the /shouts.  It's about the OOC text in the blurbs.  It's others who started talking about the shouts.  Personally, I think that going up to people and using /say is preferable anyway because people tend to dislike it when people use the /shout command unless there's a really good reason for it.  And yes, I'm not a fan of the way UTM tried to resolve things because in my opinion he ignored the fundamental problem behind what happened.

As far as trying to assassinate you in game, I thought you started this whole RP based on some new god that you introduced to Planeshift asking people to assassinate you?  Yeah, there was a reward in it for whoever managed to kill you.  And now you're complaining about it?  You can't have it both ways.  Either you wanted people to try to assassinate you or you didn't.  As I recall, you had quite a few people come after you and you welcomed it.  So don't change your story now.

And if you think this is harassment, you're just a sillypants.

[Anfa]

As far as trying to assassinate you in game, I thought you started this whole RP based on some new god that you introduced to Planeshift

From the History section of the settings..

http://www.planeshift.it/setting_history.html

Guided by an ancient and powerful god, named Vodùl, god of the future events, they discovered one quiet planet with a crystal column full of energy and mystery. Together, they explored the depths of the planet where the majestic obelisk has its roots, full to the brim and quivering with the azure energy.

Cheers
Anfa
Watcher of the Scions of Wyldewood

[Xillix stated many times that she took the name of the God from the settings again perhaps more research by players before commenting would be in order]

[Peacer]

i'd say stop this maddness threat, it is turning into harrasment imo. Close it and delete everything else that puts up this meaningless discussion about how bad she is and going back in time and fiscuss that, have already been discussed get it over with already   

[DeathsAngel]

Guys, often when I come on the forum I see flaming post or people making an elephant from a mouse.

Wouldn't it be easier for everyone moral and fun to have fix the problem in private message? It could have solve that way.

It's not as if she did something VERY annoying and big, at least it was to help new members AND! I don't see many people doing so in game, well not that publicly.

I agree totally with the post of Satayne (the one that Zorbels agreed with). Those situations will happen, problems must be solve and topic like : "You agree or not with her attitude" doesn't bring anything.

Anyone that have done some basic psychology or learned effective way to solve problems surly have learned that the best way is putting solution forward and not "attacking" the people.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

The idea that this is disruptive is absurd, completely. Whoever you came up to to hear that from you still went out of your way the range of a /say is not that far. What I am doing is not disruptive many people have already stated that it is in fact far less disruptive than the alternative, which is allowing the majority of new players to work without a net. I am a sillypants btw and generally good-natured and kind friendly and fun loving. Honestly though Zanzibar you are coming off like a heckler now. Please go look for something else to get uptight about for a while.

[Karyuu]

As this thread is starting to aggravate a lot of people, it's best to draw it to a close.

Last words: Xillix is trying very hard to contribute to the community and make the experience of new players much warmer. She is open to constructive criticism on her techniques. If there are problems, I think it would make better sense to try to discuss this with her in private first - whether in-game or through PMs or using another medium.