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I hate Planeshift advisors...
« on: May 04, 2006, 06:50:29 pm »
I told them I tried the "various things I could try for the quest here" ...

AND SO ON...

Is it really a spoiler... to tell someone they need to use the word "WORDHERE" ????

C'mon... this is "being annoying" beyond recognition..

SERIOUSLY... Sort out the difference between a "spoiler" and stopping anyone with good grammar from being seriously peanutted of with you.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

(I've completed this quest... so it's no bother to me... but any new players will find this lameness a NIGHTMARE!!!!)

No slight spoilers or slightly bad language please. Yes, I'm probably "being annoying" to you by making this edit.  -Xordan
« Last Edit: May 04, 2006, 08:12:09 pm by Xordan »

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2006, 06:58:36 pm »
advisors are not there to give you the answers to quests, ok some of the quest solutions may be a bit 'unusual' but why should we do your job for you.  advisors are there to give help to players, not play the game for them.

although i do agree that the rules for advisors should be more clearly defined. but i personally always draw the line at giving quest answers.

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2006, 07:03:10 pm »
Sounds like it's time to take a step away from your computer, take a few deep breaths and remember that this is only a game ;) A very early version of a game even.
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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006, 07:39:25 pm »
I told them I tried the "various things I could try for the quest here" ...

AND SO ON...

Is it really a spoiler... to tell someone they need to use the word "WORDHERE" ????

C'mon... this is "being annoying" beyond recognition..

SERIOUSLY... Sort out the difference between a "spoiler" and stopping anyone with good grammar from being seriously peanutted of with you.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

(I've completed this quest... so it's no bother to me... but any new players will find this lameness a NIGHTMARE!!!!)


Telling people that line is pretty much completing the quest for them...
« Last Edit: May 04, 2006, 08:13:16 pm by Xordan »
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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 08:09:03 pm »
I told them I tried the "various things I could try for the quest here" ...

AND SO ON...

Is it really a spoiler... to tell someone they need to use the word "WORDHERE" ????

C'mon... this is "being annoying" beyond recognition..

SERIOUSLY... Sort out the difference between a "spoiler" and stopping anyone with good grammar from being seriously peanutted of with you.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

(I've completed this quest... so it's no bother to me... but any new players will find this lameness a NIGHTMARE!!!!)





The problem is the quest, not the advisors.  The way quests are solved is silly.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2006, 08:13:35 pm by Xordan »
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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2006, 08:11:48 pm »
In a sense, yes, telling the phrase is completing the quest for them. But think about it in roleplay terms. If you had a Holy Script of Laanx and someone came up to you and said that they needed "the scroll of Laanx", you'd know what they meant, right? Finding exactly the right words to tell the NPC isn't a very good basis for a challenge. A real spoiler would be something like telling someone where Nyshyn is or who has Falka (which is why I'm not saying it here!). But if the person knows who to tell something and just can't find the right exact words, I don't think that counts as a spoiler.
It seems just like it's an attempt to place the blame on the player for not having figured it out yet, rather than on the programmers for not putting in enough synonyms.

(Of course I do realize that posting all the phrases on the forums where everyone can read them might be pretty bad. That's probably the main reason it's only allowed ingame.)

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2006, 08:12:48 pm »
 :thumbdown: Look at it from a advisers point of view.  It sucks its called HELP and we cant but hay to give you the full answer i must have done it first to know, so if i can do it bad spelling and all whats your excuse. ?

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2006, 08:21:05 pm »
:thumbdown: Look at it from a advisers point of view.  It sucks its called HELP and we cant but hay to give you the full answer i must have done it first to know, so if i can do it bad spelling and all whats your excuse. ?


You got lucky, that's what.  Look at the solution for the Merrinez Love Letter for instance!
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2006, 08:22:56 pm »
:thumbdown: Look at it from a advisers point of view.  It sucks its called HELP and we cant but hay to give you the full answer i must have done it first to know, so if i can do it bad spelling and all whats your excuse. ?


You got lucky, that's what.  Look at the solution for the Merrinez Love Letter for instance!
done that too smiles 27 completed so far , not bad for a bad speller and a old f---  smiles GLAD TO HELP
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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2006, 08:27:39 pm »
:thumbdown: Look at it from a advisers point of view.  It sucks its called HELP and we cant but hay to give you the full answer i must have done it first to know, so if i can do it bad spelling and all whats your excuse. ?


You got lucky, that's what.  Look at the solution for the Merrinez Love Letter for instance!
done that too smiles 26 completed so far , not bad for a bad speller and a old f---  smiles GLAD TO HELP


The Merrinez Love Letter has a one in a thousand chance of being done by anyone without a spoiler.
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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2006, 08:16:13 pm »
I spent 5 hours trying to figure it out and never got it correct in the letter part. I must have run to get pen and ink a hundred times. Finally i roleplayed my question about it to another player and he was kind enough to give me a hand ( spoiler ) I really agree that that particular quest is a pain to get working. I've always wondered how ever the first player got that answer, its just to complicated.

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2006, 04:07:56 am »
It's freaking annoying those quests. I mean the quests don't take time exept for the "try to guess the right phrase" game. And it was even claimed the phrase recognition was improved I believe.

I know its just a  :beta:, but why make it so only puzzle fanatics can do quests?

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2006, 04:12:17 am »
I'm thinking the quests are as alpha as everything else.  Hopefully they will improve like everything else.

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2006, 04:18:26 am »
hmm the game is regressing? Going back insteaad of forward? I'm sure it was called an open beta before but now it's apha again?

Now that is really a new type of slow :P

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Re: I hate Planeshift advisors...
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2006, 04:20:10 am »
It was never a beta. "Open beta" was used to compare PlaneShift to commercial projects.
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