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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2006, 01:01:43 pm »
Actually why I won't post the logs is because half the things would be censored, like peanut. =P

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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2006, 06:12:50 pm »
Lets NOT make this a discusion if one person did this or that.

Topic: OOC comments after dueling for IC reasons.

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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2006, 09:02:08 pm »
Lets NOT make this a discusion if one person did this or that.

Topic: OOC comments after dueling for IC reasons.


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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2006, 11:19:34 pm »
::| I just have to say this, from what I read here why do you people interact in the game together? I don't understand.

"I am going to post this log."
"Well so am I."
"That isn't right, you left half of it out."
"No I didn't, your lieing."

Good grief! We don't care! Send these logs to each other in PM's and duke it out.

Zanzibar is right though, if in a IC duel, once it is done there should be no ooc tells freaking out about it. Meet in character again and lay down some rules before you duel. If you don't do that then be prepared that ANYTHING goes. If you don't like the way that character handles the duel or the rules, then it is simple ... DON'T keep going back for more. Ignore the ooc tells, eventually this person will get tired of typing to themselves and move on.


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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2006, 02:28:56 am »
Well in a duel, both use all of their skills, just not cheap skills, such as hiding somewhere and shooting, but exploiting their opponent's weaknesses, and overpowering them. Potions are a cheap way of winning a duel, but in no way did I see Quittaa cheat in that duel, she used her skill (Energy Arrow) to overpower her opponent.

Now, about complaining.

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A prearranged, formal combat between two persons, usually fought to settle a point of honor.
A struggle for domination between two contending persons, groups, or ideas.

Those are dictionary definitions. A duel is prearranged, or is simply two people or groups fighting for control. If it is prearranged, (which for example, Shal and Quittaa's duel wasn't, just a fight to see who was better, or for honor, I don't know what it was about exactly), there were no rules layed out, meaning both groups had full right to do whatever they could to win. When Shal complains about that, he is showing that he does not like the fact that a person did something against some kind of rules that were not announced at any time. If you don't want someone to use magic in a duel, say "No magic, etc. allowed" before it starts. Or at least in brackets, if you can't do it IC. That should settle most of it. Now if you want to say something positive and possibly IC after a duel, compliment the person on how strong they are, and say you need to train some more to even be a match for them, or say that it was a close fight, something as long as it isn't whining about losing. Now if that person "cheats" or disobeys the prearranged rules, then you can complain, just don't throw a tantrum. There were no rules setup in that duel (and Shal used potions anyway, so both of them were apperantly "cheating" according to zanzibar's theory) so both parties have no right to complain about what is done.

I said what I had to say, now I'm ignoring this thread, there's no point in continuing.

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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2006, 03:35:52 am »
Good grief! We don't care! Send these logs to each other in PM's and duke it out.

Posting a log of someone else talking is a violation of privacy.  I think a lot of the time, people post logs as a way to harass a certain individual.  I'll admit that I've been guilty of this in the past, as has Under the Moon, "Quitta", and various other individuals, and it's one of several bad habits I've been working on being more aware of.


Zanzibar is right though, if in a IC duel, once it is done there should be no ooc tells freaking out about it. Meet in character again and lay down some rules before you duel. If you don't do that then be prepared that ANYTHING goes. If you don't like the way that character handles the duel or the rules, then it is simple ... DON'T keep going back for more. Ignore the ooc tells, eventually this person will get tired of typing to themselves and move on.[/b]

Good advice.


Well in a duel, both use all of their skills, just not cheap skills, such as hiding somewhere and shooting, but exploiting their opponent's weaknesses, and overpowering them. Potions are a cheap way of winning a duel, but in no way did I see Quittaa cheat in that duel, she used her skill (Energy Arrow) to overpower her opponent.

So off topic, it isn't even funny.  With Quittaa, she "outsmarted" or "outwitted" Shalmaneser - she did not overpower my character.  Potions are in the game, and therefore are dependant on skill and experience.  It's only cheap if you exploit game mechanics.


I said what I had to say, now I'm ignoring this thread, there's no point in continuing.

You keep saying this, but you don't seem to stick to it!  I don't mind you posting in my threads, but try to stay on topic next time.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2006, 04:12:06 am by zanzibar »
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2006, 05:12:09 am »
So off topic, it isn't even funny. With Quittaa, she "outsmarted" or "outwitted" Shalmaneser - she did not overpower my character. Potions are in the game, and therefore are dependant on skill and experience. It's only cheap if you exploit game mechanics.

By the Gods! You're STILL talking about that duel with Quittaa? What aspect of that duel has not been covered 50 times? Every thread I look in, there you are, going on again and again about your duel with Quittaa. How many weeks ago did that battle take place? Why don't you log into Planeshift, go find some other people, and come up with a new experience to talk about?

You know, since your duel with Quittaa, I've had probably 50 duels (half of which either I /told them "Nice shot!" or they /told me the same thing), a half dozen extended role-playing sessions, made several new friends, attended a wedding, poisoned a dwarf at the wedding reception, killed Zorbels who was furious with me, then was summarily killed by her husband Satayne. I killed a number of ulbernauts, helped several newbies, taught a couple people how to fight ulbernauts and live, flirted with a couple people, participated in a war council meeting with six or seven other others, showed a couple of people how to use magic, and used secret, evil magic to cause two characters to see dwarves the way I do.

I suggest you try the same thing: Go into the game and actually play it, and try to create some enjoyable experiences for you and those around you. Then you'll have something new to talk about.

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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2006, 07:04:08 am »
By the Gods! You're STILL talking about that duel with Quittaa?

By the Gods!  You're STILL following me around the forums like this, even as you're saying you want a fresh start?

Suno raised the topic, and I responded to him by correcting him.  Give it up already, eh?  And no, I don't care about how many duels you've won or how many ulbernaughts you've killed.  That kind of stuff doesn't impress me too much.
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2006, 10:19:18 am »
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So off topic, it isn't even funny.  With Quittaa, she "outsmarted" or "outwitted" Shalmaneser - she did not overpower my character.  Potions are in the game, and therefore are dependant on skill and experience.  It's only cheap if you exploit game mechanics.

i don't understand this, how did she exploit game mechanics?

edit: Drahlian, satayne and zorbels aren't married yet ;), so it's her fiance... i think...
« Last Edit: May 31, 2006, 10:21:33 am by Peacer »
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2006, 10:24:28 am »
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So off topic, it isn't even funny.  With Quittaa, she "outsmarted" or "outwitted" Shalmaneser - she did not overpower my character.  Potions are in the game, and therefore are dependant on skill and experience.  It's only cheap if you exploit game mechanics.

i don't understand this, how did she exploit game mechanics?

edit: Drahlian, satayne and zorbels aren't married yet ;), so it's her fiance... i think...


Quitta didn't exploit game mechanics.  Her cheating was in character - she "surprised" my character by using energy arrow combined with running around a lot.
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2006, 10:42:08 am »
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So off topic, it isn't even funny.  With Quittaa, she "outsmarted" or "outwitted" Shalmaneser - she did not overpower my character.  Potions are in the game, and therefore are dependant on skill and experience.  It's only cheap if you exploit game mechanics.

i don't understand this, how did she exploit game mechanics?

edit: Drahlian, satayne and zorbels aren't married yet ;), so it's her fiance... i think...


Quitta didn't exploit game mechanics.  Her cheating was in character - she "surprised" my character by using energy arrow combined with running around a lot.

ok... but i don't think she was cheating, she used magic to kill you and there were no rules to break or cheat around.

end of story! :)
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2006, 10:48:24 am »
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So off topic, it isn't even funny.  With Quittaa, she "outsmarted" or "outwitted" Shalmaneser - she did not overpower my character.  Potions are in the game, and therefore are dependant on skill and experience.  It's only cheap if you exploit game mechanics.

i don't understand this, how did she exploit game mechanics?

edit: Drahlian, satayne and zorbels aren't married yet ;), so it's her fiance... i think...


Quitta didn't exploit game mechanics.  Her cheating was in character - she "surprised" my character by using energy arrow combined with running around a lot.

ok... but i don't think she was cheating, she used magic to kill you and there were no rules to break or cheat around.

end of story! :)


She didn't break any rules in the player's rulebook by using magic.
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2006, 12:09:48 pm »
then why did she cheat, i see nothing wrong :S
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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2006, 05:02:19 pm »
How the hell did this duel get dragged into this thread again? i thought it was about people bitching after losing a duel in tell's. Thats bad form so just stop with it.

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Re: RPing: A small request to people who duel.
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2006, 06:36:19 pm »
How the hell did this duel get dragged into this thread again?

Suno and Drahlian, as usual...

then why did she cheat, i see nothing wrong :S

It was in character.
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