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Re: water and stone
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2006, 07:04:41 am »
I like to think of myself as a cloud.  Just flowing where ever the wind takes me.


I wanna be grass...it's flexible (me likes) green (me likes) and it tastes like crap...2 out of 3 isn't bad...
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2006, 09:51:40 am »
I like to think of myself as a cloud.  Just flowing where ever the wind takes me.


I wanna be grass...it's flexible (me likes) green (me likes) and it tastes like crap...2 out of 3 isn't bad...
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2006, 01:16:06 pm »
Be not the hard oak that resists the wind, nor the grass that flattens with the wind, but the willow that bends.
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2006, 01:19:52 pm »
Ah, another metaphore for understanding and harmony. Instead of break in hard winds like the oak(resistance) which could lead to harm, or the grass being flattened(resistance but succumbing to the wind) be the willow and go with the flow(acceptance, harmony[accepting others opinion and differences]).
It could also mean that if the wind blows(war, change) do not partake in the wind but do not either join against it. Another philosophy about passiveness.

Hehe, 'tis really fun to analyze these. Wise words indeed.
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2006, 06:29:16 pm »
Hmm I guess I tend to see myself more as molten rock. Even the might of water retreats before my touch as I destroy only to reshape into something new. Solid rock bends and crumbles beat my presence, the grass the willow even the might oak all turn to ash at my touch, the water flowing as it does is forced back from where I travel never more there to roam. Yet when I destroy rock I make new rock stronger and more beutiful than before, where I burned the grass and the trees new life grows in my fertile soil, and where I forced back the water new beaches of wonderfull black sand will form upon which much life will thrive form.

(Yes I'm a persrciber to the "To make the rug you must destroy the thread" philosophy)

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Re: water and stone
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2006, 07:11:46 pm »
What happens when you cool down 8) Molten rock can only exist for a long period within it's own realm. If it touches the surface it will quickly destroy everything in it's path and then become no more. That actually sounds like the stereotype of "destructive" or "evil". Destructiveness can only live on chaos but if it touches a passive surface(monks, lands) it is either soothed or destroys itself(over a short or long period of time)[Like the element of molten rock .v.s Water and Air]
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2006, 07:39:22 pm »
Be like water and I will be the air that controls you. I will mold and shape you into waves and make you retreat with the wind that I wield. I am even more vital for life and can set all other elements to do my bidding. I can enrage or extinguish fire, shape wood and stone and move water. Even the most stable of elements, metal itself cannot resist my constant touch as it crumbles to rust underneath me .. yet nothing controls me but me.

True enlightenment cannot be found by following but one path and being but one element, it can only be found by exploring all paths and understanding all elements. Alone they are like the sound of a tree falling in the woods with nobody around to hear it. ;)

To simply degrade a rock as a stubborn and unyielding element is to fail to see that you are acting like a rock by holding onto that view, without finding the yang that opposes the rock's yin.

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Re: water and stone
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2006, 08:04:54 pm »
Be like water and I will be the air that controls you. I will mold and shape you into waves and make you retreat with the wind that I wield. I am even more vital for life and can set all other elements to do my bidding. I can enrage or extinguish fire, shape wood and stone and move water. Even the most stable of elements, metal itself cannot resist my constant touch as it crumbles to rust underneath me .. yet nothing controls me but me.

True enlightenment cannot be found by following but one path and being but one element, it can only be found by exploring all paths and understanding all elements. Alone they are like the sound of a tree falling in the woods with nobody around to hear it. ;)

To simply degrade a rock as a stubborn and unyielding element is to fail to see that you are acting like a rock by holding onto that view, without finding the yang that opposes the rock's yin.

A few words of wisdom from an ancient Zantao master :P

Wise words indeed.

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Re: water and stone
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2006, 09:03:59 pm »
Be like water and I will be the air that controls you. I will mold and shape you into waves and make you retreat with the wind that I wield. I am even more vital for life and can set all other elements to do my bidding. I can enrage or extinguish fire, shape wood and stone and move water. Even the most stable of elements, metal itself cannot resist my constant touch as it crumbles to rust underneath me .. yet nothing controls me but me.

True enlightenment cannot be found by following but one path and being but one element, it can only be found by exploring all paths and understanding all elements. Alone they are like the sound of a tree falling in the woods with nobody around to hear it. ;)

To simply degrade a rock as a stubborn and unyielding element is to fail to see that you are acting like a rock by holding onto that view, without finding the yang that opposes the rock's yin.

A few words of wisdom from an ancient Zantao master :P

wow,that was so ...Wow!

Another great example of what harmony and understanding can do to the hardiest of warriors.

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Re: water and stone
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2006, 10:11:31 pm »
isnt wind caused by the gravitational fields  from the solar system sun?  :P i may be wrong but air is controlable too..

here is something interesting read:
http://www.imho.com/grae/chaos/chaos.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

a good example of the chaos theory:
"Sensitivity to initial conditions is popularly known as the "butterfly effect", suggesting that the flapping of a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere, which could over time cause a tornado to occur. "
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2006, 11:03:18 pm »
Air, Water, Earth are simply metaphores of old teachings. They are like yin and yaing, you know they're there but you can't touch them cause they're expressions, metaphores of states of minds: stone(stubborness, hardheaded)water(calmness, coolness)air(wild, strong)

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Re: water and stone
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2006, 11:45:18 pm »
yes, but they also wrong with the actual known knowledge,  ;) they in times long passed were acurate but now they just frases with no meaning
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2006, 11:58:50 pm »
Actually it has taken a new meaning, before being science now spiritualistic. The old meaning is to make the words of the wise men easier to understand through items which symbolizes, for example different states of mind.
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Re: water and stone
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2006, 12:26:15 am »
Err, I'll be a human.

I'll make the choices to know when I should be heavy as oak, and when to be light as dogwood. I will choose when to sweep against the crevice of our lifetime, as water in a steam, and when to to still like the placid lakes in winter. I will be cold as ice, yet hot as fire. Flexible as gold, and immovable as a mountain.

You have to know when to take a shape, a form, a study, a conscienceness. The world is not in black in white.

A tree that is flexible is cut. A rock that is still is smashed to gravel. The wind that flows freely, can even succumb to the strength of it's surroundings.

A single study of life is foolish as a complete disregard for it's shapes. Keep an open mind, and know when to take form, or you might get stuck.

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Re: water and stone
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2006, 12:41:27 am »
Hehe, Minetus's just trying to make me mad, nothign to take notice of.
Excellent, I didn't know this was the objective to why Minetus bugged me ;D
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